AMD Readies Radeon RX 7600 XT, RX 7700, and RX 7800

[btarunr]

Even as NVIDIA inches close to the launch of its RTX 40-series SUPER graphics cards in January, AMD could be preparing a product stack update of its own. While NVIDIA's refresh focuses on the higher end of its lineup, AMD looks to spread out more into the mainstream-performance segments. A regulatory filing with the Eurasian Economic Commission mentions the terms "RX 7600 XT," "RX 7700," and "RX 7800," which fill gaps between the RX 7600, RX 7700 XT, and RX 7800 XT.

There exists a rather big gap between the $230 Radeon RX 7600 and the $450 RX 7700 XT, which AMD is looking to fill with the RX 7600 XT and RX 7700 (non-XT). How AMD goes about carving out these two will be interesting to see. The RX 7600 already maxes out the 6 nm "Navi 33" silicon that it's based on, which means to create the RX 7600 XT, AMD might have to tap into the larger (and much more expensive) "Navi 32" MCM. There is a vast gap between the 32 CU (compute units) available to the RX 7600, and the 54 CU that the RX 7700 XT has (while the silicon itself has 60). Besides CU count, AMD has other levers, such as the MCD (memory cache die) count, which could be down to just 2 for the RX 7600 XT, or 3 for the RX 7700. The Radeon RX 7800 is a different beast. AMD faced quite some flack for positioning the RX 7700 XT within $50 of the RX 7800 XT, and now the former can be had for a street price of roughly $430. To be able to squeeze the RX 7800 between the two, AMD might need to widen the gap by pushing the RX 7700 XT down.



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[KrazyT]

As usual, waiting for TPU's review
Maybe some nice surprise ?

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

Maybe some nice surprise

If my predictions make any sense then no surprise and just a better value (than XT) 7700 and a useless 7600 XT.

I see it this way:

32 CU, 8 GB 18 GHz 7600 non-XT. $230.
36 CU, 8 GB 19+ GHz or 10 GB 18 GHz (less likely) 7600 XT. $300?
48 CU, 12 GB 18 GHz 7700 non-XT. $350?
54 CU, 12 GB 18 GHz 7700 XT. $430.

It's also possible for 7600 XT to sport 42 CU but it's impractical: too close to major leagues. And at 36 CUs, it'll already overrun 6700 XT in some games despite having less VRAM and lower bandwidth.

 

[Chrispy_]

If the 7600XT is just an overclocked version of the 7600, then it's yet another waste of silicon, like the 4060/4060Ti 8GB, 7600 8GB, and 6650XT 8GB. 8GB wasn't enough VRAM for >$250 GPUs in 2022, it's going to be 2024 in less than a week. I want to be able to recommend and buy cheaper GPUs for people, but unless they are super-casual gamers who aren't going to be running AAA titles for the next couple of years, the 8GB handicap makes it very hard to recommend anything less than a 12GB 6750XT or 4070, which are dated and overpriced, respectively.

A 7600XT with 16GB (but just double the GDDR package density) would be an interesting sub-$300 proposition, but more excitingly, a 7600XT or 7700 with a Navi32 and 3xMCD for 192-bit 12GB would be what the market needs at the sub-$400 price point.

Honestly, the old 3060 12GB is still a solid option for lower-end gamers at about $250 and the 6600 is the only 8GB card I can recommend simply because at $190 people won't expect to run at anything other than low-med settings and therefore won't be angry like they would be if they'd dropped $400 on a 4060Ti to be denied high settings without stuttering and/or missing textures everywhere.

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

at the sub-$400 price point.

RX 6800 non-XT as a no-brainer. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nr...00-16-gb-video-card-rx-6800-gaming-z-trio-16g

 

[Outback Bronze]

Looking forward to the price/performance of the 7800. I thought the 6800 was pretty good value back when it was originally released.

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

I thought the 6800 was pretty good value back when it was originally released.

Why? It was more expensive and not substantially faster than 3070, also lacking DLSS/CUDA support and lacking RT performance. FSR was not a thing either. The whole RDNA2 line-up was launched more overpriced than Ampere was. It's only this year it's the other way around.

 

[Outback Bronze]

Why?

Doesn't that 16GB go way further these days? I have seen lots of vids now with modern games complaining about the 8gb Vram.

 

[Chrispy_]

RX 6800 non-XT as a no-brainer. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nr...00-16-gb-video-card-rx-6800-gaming-z-trio-16g

I don't expect that to be around for much longer, AMD said production of smaller RDNA2 dies - presumably up to Navi22 would continue throughout 2023 but that implies that the only 6800 and 6900-series cards left are just old stocks clearing inventory.

 

[Sabotaged_Enigma]

You know what, I stared at the title for a few seconds thinking these models have already existed...

 

[R0H1T]

Maybe some nice surprise ?

Only thing AMD can surprise us is with the pricing, even then it's unlikely as of now with the AI fad

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

Doesn't that 16GB go way further these days?

It aged well, not gonna lie, but what it was 3 years ago was a mess.

I don't expect that to be around for much longer

Can't deny that. Yet as it's still in stock it's the best GPU inside 400 USD range if you don't need nVidia exclusive features.

 

[Denver]

I bet the 7600XT is just a version with more memory and maybe higher clocks. I don't see any reason to use a larger chip that could be sold in a product with better margins.

 

[Hyderz]

The 7800 non xt will be sandwiched between 7700xt and 7800xt interesting….. the msrp is 50 dollars difference

 

[HD64G]

Apart from 7600XT, those GPUs might be just OEM models with lower power draw? And 7600XT might be a full-die and factory oced N33. Just saying.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Honestly, the old 3060 12GB is still a solid option for lower-end gamers at about $250 and the 6600 is the only 8GB card I can recommend simply because at $190 people won't expect to run at anything other than low-med settings and therefore won't be angry like they would be if they'd dropped $400 on a 4060Ti to be denied high settings without stuttering and/or missing textures everywhere.

The longevity of those two is impressive IMO, and speaks to both how balanced the designs are and how poorly the current generation has served their segments of the market.

I'm disappointed there's nothing on deck for sub-$200 buyers. Are N33 yields too high, or margins too slim to allow for such a thing? I get that USD100 is realistically too low to make any money today, but it feels like there should be room for a viable $150 part.

 

[sethmatrix7]

I'm disappointed there's nothing on deck for sub-$200 buyers. Are N33 yields too high, or margins too slim to allow for such a thing? I get that USD100 is realistically too low to make any money today, but it feels like there should be room for a viable $150 part.

ARC A750, RX 6600 XT, used ebay GPUs

 

[GhostRyder]

I mean cool, but seems very late to the party. I wish a lot of these lower end GPU's would have hit the market sooner because it seems like we get then in the end of the current generations life cycle. Plus isn't AMD readying the 8XXX series this year?

 

[TumbleGeorge]

The 7800 non xt will be sandwiched between 7700xt and 7800xt interesting….. the msrp is 50 dollars difference

Why not? Just in time time to decrease price of rx 7700 xt.

 

[KrazyT]

If my predictions make any sense then no surprise and just a better value (than XT) 7700 and a useless 7600 XT.

I see it this way:

32 CU, 8 GB 18 GHz 7600 non-XT. $230.
36 CU, 8 GB 19+ GHz or 10 GB 18 GHz (less likely) 7600 XT. $300?
48 CU, 12 GB 18 GHz 7700 non-XT. $350?
54 CU, 12 GB 18 GHz 7700 XT. $430.

It's also possible for 7600 XT to sport 42 CU but it's impractical: too close to major leagues. And at 36 CUs, it'll already overrun 6700 XT in some games despite having less VRAM and lower bandwidth.

We'll see Mr. Nostradamus .
I mean surprise with temps and power consumption

 

[80-watt Hamster]

ARC A750, RX 6600 XT, used ebay GPUs

I'm talking about Radeon 7000 cards (and by inference RTX 4000). Used cards of any sort are out of scope. A750 isn't selling for $150, and would (probably) be posting a loss if it were.

 

[Lionheart]

Why? It was more expensive and not substantially faster than 3070, also lacking DLSS/CUDA support and lacking RT performance. FSR was not a thing either. The whole RDNA2 line-up was launched more overpriced than Ampere was. It's only this year it's the other way around.

Shill harder troll

 

[Vayra86]

You know what, I stared at the title for a few seconds thinking these models have already existed...

Same, and honestly, they do, except they have one different number.

Shill harder troll

He isn't wrong. RDNA2 became interesting when AMD started slashing prices, especially at the 6700-6800XT level.

 

[Lionheart]

Same, and honestly, they do, except they have one different number.


He isn't wrong. RDNA2 became interesting when AMD started slashing prices, especially at the 6700-6800XT level.

I disagree, 6800 was the go to enthusiast/high end card for AMD, especially with that frame buffer.

 

[Vayra86]

The longevity of those two is impressive IMO, and speaks to both how balanced the designs are and how poorly the current generation has served their segments of the market.

I'm disappointed there's nothing on deck for sub-$200 buyers. Are N33 yields too high, or margins too slim to allow for such a thing? I get that USD100 is realistically too low to make any money today, but it feels like there should be room for a viable $150 part.

Longevity? Cards are barely out 3,5 years, I wouldn't call that longevity.

I disagree, 6800 was the go to enthusiast/high end card for AMD, especially with that frame buffer.

On thát I agree.