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AMD Trinity APU Pictured in its Three Package Options

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  1. btarunr

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    At CES, AMD is grabbing some eyeballs with a fascinating real-world capability demo of the AMD "Trinity" accelerated processing unit. At the same booth, AMD displayed the Trinity silicon in three different packages, for three different form-factors. The first one (to the left), also pictured in the earlier article, is a compact FP2 BGA (ball-grid array) package, designed for ultra-compact notebooks, ultrabooks, etc.

    The second one (center) is the FS1r2 uPGA package for mainstream notebooks with slightly relaxed space and board footprint constraints. Unlike the FP2 BGA package, the FS1r2 uPGA is socketed, with extremely tiny pins. The FS1r2 uPGA is significantly bigger than FP2 BGA. The third, more familiar-looking package is the FM2, for desktops. FM2 is an updated version of FM1, on which current Llano A-series desktop APUs are based. Unfortunately, FM1 and FM2 are not compatible in any way. Learn more about the FM2 package in our older article detailing it, here.

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    Interesting sizes. I would lol if some bent the pins on those, but that would be hard to do if they are tiny.
     
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    With socketed notebook CPUs, Intel and AMD can afford to make those pins delicate and tiny, there's far lesser scope of people actually handling the CPU of their notebooks, most notebooks are branded, whatever CPU upgrades are performed are done by professional technicians, if you want to retain warranties.
     
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    Wow, that demo was extremely impressive.

    I knew AMD had an ace up its sleeve! :D
     
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    I'm pretty sure the one on the left is the FP2 package, and not the FT2. FT2 was supposed to be the package of the Krishna core, the next "Atom killer" low-power platform.
     
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    this platform is the atom killer dude
     
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    Trinity is the successor to Llano, it's the mainstream desktop and mainstream mobile platform by AMD. Hence it is supposed to "kill" Ivy Bridge, and not Atom.
     
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    that's a big ass die.
     
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    If I had to guess, the etc. means the FP2 package may move into the same arena as Atom, in which case, it will definitely kill it.
     
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    i just wonder if FM2 is the Desktop Socket that will phase out FM1 and AM3+ eventually.
     
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    AMD has started killing of intel. and like always AMD is starting at the bottom and going to the top :D
     
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    Thats what they Did with Duron, Athlon, Athlon XP. then Sempron, Athlon 64, Athlon 64 FX.

    If FM2 is the Piledriver/Bulldozer Gen 2 Socket, cant wait to see it in action and maybe even a Dual FX Platform.
     
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    BTW Bulldozer patch is out. Any real bench numbers around?
     
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    FM2 will effectively replace FM1. AM3+ is a different matter, it will keep living through 2012 as AMD's HEDT (High-End Desktop) platform, but even AMD have no definitive plans about how long will AM3+ last. If AMD eventually decide to give up HEDT, then they will kill AM3+ and so only FM2 remains on the desktop.
     
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    As far as I know, there's a 17W version of Trinity, perfect for ultrathins. I wonder about its performance compared to intel's ones in ultrabooks.
    I was waiting for AMD to hit the ultrathin market with their APUs, if the performance & price are good, I'll consider buying one.
     
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    Im not too worried about HPD,

    I still suspect FM2 will be the HPD/Mainstream depending on which chipset, APU/CPU and video card you select. I think reason AM3+ is sticking around is for upgrade paths for those adopted it which I like considering It really sucks those who adopted 1366/1156 got shafted with upgrade path...
     
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    No, FP2 will move into the same 'area' as Intel's BGA1023 (31 x 24 mm) package, on which some of its Core i3 and Core i5 "Sandy Bridge" chips are based.

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    Kill intel......that sounds familar.....

    Good show nontheless time will tell.
     
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    the real question is did they improve the cpu part?

    the real question is did they improve the cpu part or only the gpu part
    if they didnt improve the cpu than its not much of a "must buy" for the desktop users
    only for laptop users
     
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    Trinity is 25% faster in the CPU part but that is mostly frequency I believe

    3870K is stock 3.0GHz

    4 x 4 x 3.0GHz = 48 GFlops x 1.25 = 60GFlops

    60 GFlops = 16 x Z GHz
    --- 16 = 3.75GHz

    So, A8-58(or 9)70K will be 3.8GHz

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    Am I the only one who is thoroughly impressed by the demo?
     
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    Everyone is, but in the back of their mind they worry about the flops we have experienced with Phenom, Bulldozer and their marketing and disclosures.
     
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    Can't wait for an ultrathin [or how AMD's gonna call them]. But I'd love one at most 13mm thick at the back. That would ROCK!
     
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    Ultrathin Notebooks (Ultrathins for short)

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    I like how I can just find an image these days and slap it into one of my posts and it pretty much explains everything for me instead of going to some white paper....and copy and pastinian
    (It was so difficulty for Bulldozer, AMD <3s Trinity a lot more than Bulldozer)
     
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