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ATI Radeon HD 6000 Series GPU Codenames Surface

Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Aug 26, 2010.

  1. mastrdrver

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    6000 series isn't going to be S.I. based. N.I. will come before S.I.

    Truth right here.
     
  2. JATownes

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    I believe you are incorrect. 6000 series will be SI based, and NI will follow next year.
     
  3. Dj-ElectriC

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    so... the NI stands for?

    i believe the 40NM HD6000 will be NI and the 28NM will be SI, i think
     
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    This sounded like a refresh. Meaning more power use and heat. Hopefully it's doesn't require too much, otherwise I'll stick with current HD5x. My HD5870 went out because of the stupid Zalman VF3000a HS. I'm surely interesting in picking up an HD6x.
     
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    Wow this year? cant wait for this one
     
  6. mastrdrver

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    Uh no

    Next generation GPU had their name changed from N.I. to S.I. We know that 6 series is not next generation.

    edit: Driver list

    I see:

    BLACKCOMB, WHISTLER, and SEYMOUR are laptop. They are the only ones without a GL version. They are also 3 mountain peaks in Canada. No desktop has a LP version which laptops do.

    Gemini versions make me think of Bobcat (LP) and Llano (XT, Pro). Gemini was name for Apple's Mega II. I don't remember it but seems to be a similar idea at the time from what Wikipedia has.

    Turks and Caicos are the desktop 66xx, 65xx, and 64xx. Caspian and Onega are maybe non gddr5 versions.
     
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    Hope they come with decent drivers and not like the last four sets that have been complete shit. :cry:
     
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    Yes, you can. And you will. Just examine yourself in the next weeks and you will see what you are capable of.
    BTW, all says it will be very minor performance improvement. Maybe 10% or so. It could be that the major goal of this release is efficiency, reducing die size to maximize profit. Their major improvements were targeted for 28nm process but it is not available.
     
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    I'm hoping to get my hands on a HD6850, assuming ATi didn't become lax on issues such as heat and power due to the Fermi's extremes not putting pressure on them to stay low.
    Very excited indeed.
    Just wish that AMD/ATi would rev-up their marketing engines and start showing them off already... or at the very least give us sneak peaks. Maybe they're trying not to overhype them for some reason? Hopefully not, but I'm having doubts from their 'silence' :p
     
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    Ya, if they are due in October they must be in the factories getting built by now but i can see ATI's reason for keeping it quiet. People will stop buying the 5 series and wait for the 6 series.

    Well, thats a guess but there would be some business decision behind it. Hopefully we'll see one in a couple of weeks.
     
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    I'm expecting a 20% performance increase in terms of frame rates, but AA and Tessellation getting a nice boost along with open CL performance.

    With any luck even lower power requirements and TDP.

    Also I'm hoping for some games to come out around the same time that support open-cl based physics D:
     
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    I'm impatient after seeing the thread "GPU-Z and HD 6800" :p I hope someone leaks out some more details on the cards.
     
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    well, theyre bold enough to give the whole lineup new codenames, that makes me excited for the possibility that it could well be much faster than 5000 series.
     
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    yeah i was quite sure the 5xxx series wasn't gettign a refresh due toi lack of competition from nvidia. From the get go I though the 6k series was supposed to be new arch, not another refresh. the 5xxx series was supposed to be the last refresh of the r600 tech.

    plus you have to realize that it's been a year since the 5xxx launched, typical refreshes are out way before a year is up.


    edit: this site seems to think 6k is a new arch as well.

    http://powergpu.com/2010/07/ati-6000-series/

     
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    yeah both very good points, my best guess at this stage is teething out this new architecture on the now mature 40nm process, then they can get a 28nm shrink underway and possibly even be able to double up like they have been with R600 architecture.
     
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    Will be interesting to see some specs on this.
     
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    I guess I am confused. I thought HD6000 would be SI based with NI to follow next year.

    Regarding Southern Islands:

    Source - This news story

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    Regarding Northern Islands:

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    I have read the 10.8 drivers had code names included which include NI in the name (which could mean Northern Islands, but IDK), but I think it would be a huge leap of faith to think GF or TSMC would have the 28nm process ready for retail already. But who knows.

    I just have followed the SI and NI lines for a while now, and from everything I have read, SI will be a hybrid of NI and Evergreen built on 40nm, with a full NI version to follow next year on 28nm process.
     
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    Northern islands - vague :)

    :cool:

    So November now not October, so might, just might actually be on shelves in sufficient quantaties for Christmas if we are lucky.
     
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    The names have changed. N.I. was suppose to be on 32nm, new architecture. TSMC dropped 32nm and skipped to 28nm. Instead of wait ATI took parts of the new architecture added the Evergreen shaders and are doing it on 40nm while still calling it N.I. All the new architecture parts get put together on 28nm.

    If you want some reading to do jump over to this Beyond 3D thread. I found page 30 to be able the place to start reading from so as to follow along.
     
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    Neither of you are correct at this point. AMD hasn't stated what these cards are officially called, so no point in arguing about your naming theories.
     
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    not officially.......but it's been just understood that NI is after this SI, with is also best understood as a stepping stool inbetween Evergreen n NI. There were 2 huge ass thread about this a good bit back and all the info in it stated what i just said. as well as what a few others have said with the evergreen shaders but NI features or something.
     
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    Coming from a guy that dropped a grand on a ROG gpu! (you lacking something down under Aphex? ) lol. jk

    Its for benchmarks !!!!
     
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    they need to call it GDDR6 :p (like GDDR4 compere to 3) :D
     

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