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Discussion in 'System Builder's Advice' started by Jackofblades, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. Jackofblades New Member

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    My current computer is kinda old and I always wanted to build my own gaming machine. So I finally am :D but im on a budget ($800 is pushing it) and I dont know everything about computers so I came here for advice.
    Heres what I got so far (if you know something better for less Id like to know)
    (I might fail so hard some parts aren't even compatible >.>):slap:

    mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813121396

    graphics card: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6076195&CatId=3669

    CPU: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5975150&Catid=4072

    power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182070
    (I really don't know how much power I need...advice there would be great!)

    Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023
    (not looking for cool looks but more so effectiveness)

    RAM: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6044665 X4

    optical drive and hard drive will be pulled from my older comp (maybe upgrade that later)

    thoughts?
     
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    You do not need a 850 watt power supply for that kind of rig unless you plan to greatly expand it in the future. 500 watts would be plenty.
     
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    Your mobo & cpu don't match. You selected a 1156 socket mobo with a 1366 socket cpu.
    MOBO
    CPU
     
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    if your on a budget go for a socket 1156 proc not a 1366. also get something other than an intel board as the price/performance ratio is very low with intel vs other brands such as asus msi & gigabyte
     
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    The link you posted for the ram points to laptop ram.
     
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    Sigh...
     
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    /facepalm indeed it does I wondered why it was so much cheaper
     
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    I have used this ram in cheaper builds worked great.
     
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    also if your going to be pulling a hard drive out of your old system to supplement the new one. make sure you back up all the data first & then run a hard drive checking tool such as seatools to make sure the drive is in good condition.
     
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    I will use those they sound good.
    thanks :D
     
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    Cool. Here is a suggestion on a PSU.
     
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    Looks good.
    If I need to start making price cuts on stuff do you think I could do with a lower PSU?
     
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    IMHO a PSU is not where to make your price cuts.
     
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    If you need to make price cuts, I'd suggest getting an i5 750 and a 5750.
     
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    Like I said I don't know much on how much power I need
     
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    I came up with $645.94(plus if you have tax in your state) guessing shipping would be around $25. Also have $30 in rebates. :)
     
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    Like someone else has already said. You don't need that high of a power supply if you are not planning to upgrade in the future.

    And if you are .... I would plan on buying a better brand of PSU then that one.

    I would go for a brand more like Corsair/ Antec/ Seagate.

    But if you are not going to upgrade in the future. Get a lesser PSU. maybe a 650Watt Corsair. You might be getting less power but you would be getting a better brand.

    When looking at PSU's you have to remember the wattage is not always the most important thing. AMPS per Rails are also important.

    I prefer a single Rail PSU with higher AMPS opposed to those that say Multi Rail PSU's with moderate amps is better. But I think most would agree with me.


    Also if you will be using this computer for mostly if not all gaming. Remember the GPU is the most important thing for that.

    You could get away with a lesser CPU..... something like an i5/ higher class i3 or even go AMD with there Phenom II quad cores.

    Then use the extra money to get a better and more powerful GPU like a 5850 or the new GTX 460. Possibly scrounge up more and even get a 5870.

    I also notice your CPU and MOB are not compatible. You need a Socket 1156 CPU opposed to a socket 1336 CPU

    Also your RAM that you have picked out is not for your MOB either.

    You should really do some more research bud :)

    Good luck
     
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    Jack, it all depends what you want, do you want the latest quad core cpu, or you wouldn't mind buying a high end socket 775? They still perform great. An e8400 is a great dual core, it's cheap effective and fast. This is what I would of built for you, it's cheap, powerful and effective.!

    $167 CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cach...

    $100 Motherboard: http://ijk.com.au/branch/ijk/product_info.php?cPath=51_270&products_id=127811
    (Asus make some of the best motherboards)

    $99 RAM: Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5C

    $89 PSU (power supply): CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready...

    $249 GPU: Palit NE5X460HF1102 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) SONIC ...

    $64 CASE: Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid T...

    I transferred it to American currency. In total it will cost $768 and provide a large performance boost over the 5770, i mean like double the performance.
    Anyway it's your decision not mine, but if I were you, I would've bought the above system. -1nf3rn0x :D
     
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  20. Jackofblades New Member

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    I already fixed the cpu. I gave the wrong link
     
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    PSU= Most important component. Go with Enermax, Antec, or Corsair. DO NOT GO CHEAP ON THIS.

    RAM= G-Skill, Patriot, Corsair

    Mobo= Asus, Gigabyte

    Whats your budget?
     
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    His budget is $800, I don't see whats wrong my suggestion..? It performs better than other systems posted.
     
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    Alright bud.... I will right you out a very basic guide to picking out parts for 2010 for a gaming rig.

    Motherboard:Picking out the motherboard is very important. It will decide in many ways what type of parts you will need.
    For most gaming rigs in 2010 you will be using middle to high end motherboards.

    With that said your first choice should be the socket type. This is very important because the type of socket you get on your motherboard will tell you what type of CPU's you have to choose from.

    Intel Sockets
    Socket 775(older no more upgrades)
    Socket 1156(newer will be upgraded middle end)
    Socket 1336 (Newer will be upgraded highend)

    AMD sockets
    Socket AM2(older no more updates)
    Socket AM2+(Newer Moderate updates)
    Socket AM3 (Newest upgradeable and most often Highend sometimes backwards compatible with AM2+)

    So lets' pretend for all intents and purposes you want to go with Intel Socket 1156. That means when you pick out your Intel CPU. You have to choose from the Intel CPU's that are compatible with Intel's socket 1156.

    Motherboard and RAM

    Your Motherboard will also tell you what types of RAM you have to choose from. This spec is usually located at the E -tailer's (That you will be buying it from) list of features about the Part.

    Again let's take you are building a Socket 1156 Intel System. You then would look in your motherboard Feature Spec list.... and see what type of RAM you would need to make your motherboard work.

    I know most Socket 1156's (If not all) Need DDR3 Duel Channel RAM. That same spec would tell you what type of speed of your RAM you could use with your motherboard.

    Again just for example most Intel Socket 1156 Motherboards use standard 1066Mhz to 1333Mhz of RAM.

    So that is what type of RAM you would need. So that is how you would pick it out.

    ***Be carful at this point though Make sure it is Desktop RAM you are looking for and not Laptop RAM. There is a huge Size difference and it just won't work!****

    Expansion Cards on Motherboard

    This is important.... you need to make sure the motherboard you are looking at has the right type of expansion slots so that you can install the Video card you want/ Sound Card(if needed) Exc......

    So for example if you are building a Gaming system.... You would need at least one PCIe 2.0 slot for your video card. Two if you are planning to go SLI or Crossfire in the future.

    ****Be careful though. There are different speeds for the PCIe slots. Make sure you are looking for PCIe 2.0 x16 (But often just called PCIe 2.0)

    Motherboard and Storage

    You also have too know what type of connectors you Motherboard has for connecting your Hard Drive (s) and CD/DVD Drive.

    This will come in handy latter when picking out your compatible Hard Drive and Optical Drives. You don't want to buy SATA drives when you only are compatible with IDE.

    (But most Motherboards have both Luckily)

    CPU

    So now that you now the very basics of how to pick out your Motherboard.... now you move on to your CPU.

    Make sure first and for most that you pick out your CPU's performance. You don't want to buy anything that is unnecessary to your needs or that is not strong enough either for your needs.

    Again remember the make believe case that we choose a Socket 1156 motherboard. Well that means we now need to look at Intel Socket 1156 CPU's.

    So we would look under that and make sure before we order that the CPU is compatible with Socket 1156 (Or what ever you decide on)

    RAM

    Same way we picked out the CPU is basically the same way we will pick out your RAM.

    You just check your Motherboard specs and match it accordingly.

    Same thing for your RAM pick out how much you need and the speed according to your needs.

    In the case of a gaming Rig..... You would want no less the DDR 2 800 Mhz But in reality DDR3 1333 Mhz is probably were you want to be for future proofing. Also because of todays high end operating systems and Programs I probably wouldn't go less then 4 Gig of RAM for the Amount.

    Video card....

    This part we talked about a little already.... for a gaming system you want something powerful. But if you play on a little screen you don't want overkill either.

    So look around at reviews and get an Idea of how much power you need. Different Video cards work better on different size screens. Some cards are overkill if you are playing on a small screen some are just perfect for a small screen. And Visa versa.

    You also want to make sure that your Video card is compatible with your motherboard. You don't want to buy a AGP slot video card if your motherboard only has PCIe 2.0 slots.

    make sure it is compatible.

    But for a gaming Rig in 2010 for a middle budget.... I would look at the GTX 460/GTX275/GTX260 and on ATI's side 5770/5750/4870/4850

    ****Taking a break will right more in a couple of minutes...... I am only writing this because it seems like you have a few things confused about the parts you listed on your first gaming rig build.*****
     
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    Here is a solid build with the future in mind. 799.94 BAM! On the money.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Nice guide there.
    Im not terrible with computers I actually was originally trying to decide between 1156 and 1136 and I linked the wrong link. And I actually did accidentally pick laptop RAM earlier but fixed that lol. (still found the guide useful though)
     

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