connect3d gto is modeable?

[JimmyHa]

I am running a 4000+ clawhammer, MSI neo4-f refurbed, 2x512 fatwallet cheapo ram, Thermaltake silent purepower 420w cheap PS in a generic antec case. Its a low ball system. I would think your 480ps would do the trick.

I think the r480 gave some performance away to increase clock speeds ala p4. Check this
x850xt pe w/ more core mhz and hella better ram yet still slower. I'd say r423 > r480 clock for clock.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=821879

 

[ShadowFlare]

what core? what cooling? what temp?
to know what core it has you need to look at the die you cant trust a program

It's an R480 (X800 GTO2) with a Zalman VF700-AlCu installed and it gets to around 66 C at load when the gpu is overclocked to 520. Modding it to 16 pipelines does not affect the temperature or max overclock on mine.

 

[JLBENEDICT]

I just received my Connect3D card the other day..

What seems to be the chances of this card modding to 16 pipes?
What are the symptoms if it fails? Just curious as to what to look for if it is not stable or would I even have a video signal at all???

 

[SPHERE]

It's an R480 (X800 GTO2) with a Zalman VF700-AlCu installed and it gets to around 66 C at load when the gpu is overclocked to 520. Modding it to 16 pipelines does not affect the temperature or max overclock on mine.

hummm... thats odd thx for the report dude

 

[nick255]

I just received my Connect3D card the other day..

What seems to be the chances of this card modding to 16 pipes?
What are the symptoms if it fails? Just curious as to what to look for if it is not stable or would I even have a video signal at all???

Currently successes seem to be 21 and 0 faliures so seems pretty good to me.
The only way you would not get a video signal is if the flashing went wrong or your c3d card doesnt have an R423 core, but as far as i know all the c3ds so far have had R423 cores.

Based on the current success rate ild be very surprised if you cant unlock all 16 pipes on your card, i think the worst that could happen (assuming ur card has R423) is you will be stuck with 12 pipes.

 

[SPHERE]

Currently successes seem to be 21 and 0 faliures so seems pretty good to me.
The only way you would not get a video signal is if the flashing went wrong or your c3d card doesnt have an R423 core, but as far as i know all the c3ds so far have had R423 cores.

Based on the current success rate ild be very surprised if you cant unlock all 16 pipes on your card, i think the worst that could happen (assuming ur card has R423) is you will be stuck with 12 pipes.

23 x800gto connect 3d's have moded successfully with no failures ?

 

[nick255]

23 x800gto connect 3d's have moded successfully with no failures ?

Yeah, but when i posted it was 21 on the article page

 

[Ostate21]

I think I'm going to order one of these for a friend of mine. I'm willing to take the chance plus they're still cheap!

 

[nick255]

Just looking at the success rate now, there seems to be 1 faliure , this is quite interesting.
It would be interesting to know if the person who had the faliure has a different core on this card.

Currently the only R423 cores go to x800 xt, xt pe and gt's.... xts and xt pe have all 16 pipes and the gt pipelines are cut down to 8 , i dont see why ati would start producing r423s cut down to 12 pipelines just for connect3ds gto card.

So either the card that failed has a different core or some process went wrong with the flash.

 

[SPHERE]

two cards can have the same core yet one will unlock while the other one wont

 

[nick255]

two cards can have the same core yet one will unlock while the other one wont

sure i guess, im just interested in the reason though.
Say all these cores are just bios locked, then its a software reason rather than an hardware reason why it failed.

I havnt had a chance to read all posts regarding x800 gt's but ive seen some have an R423 core, are there any reports of anybody modding these cards to 12 pipes?

if so then i guess connect3d could be sticking these cores in the gto if they are low on 16pipe R423 cores.

 

[SPHERE]

sure i guess, im just interested in the reason though.
Say all these cores are just bios locked, then its a software reason rather than an hardware reason why it failed.

I havnt had a chance to read all posts regarding x800 gt's but ive seen some have an R423 core, are there any reports of anybody modding these cards to 12 pipes?

if so then i guess connect3d could be sticking these cores in the gto if they are low on 16pipe R423 cores.

there is a thread made by dolf about x800 pipe unlocking find it and you will gain alot of insight into that ;P

Edit: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=4971

yes i have seen 2 people with r423 gt's unlock their cards to 12 pipes but none to 16

 

[Jodan]

im new with this stuff....

Hi!

For 2 weeks now i was searching for a card and 2 days ago, i decided to buy a c3d x800gto and mod it. Also i read a lot about modding and since me budget is very low, i decided to mod a card.

BUT: since i have no experience with flashing a videocards bios (i guess its just different from flashing the motherboards bios), i care a bit about doing s.th. wrong. Even if i backupped the original Bios, i would not know what (and how) to do if flashing goes wrong and i must to reflash to old Bios. Because: how doing it "blind"?!?

So could someone explain the flashing process, before that how to backup the old BIOS (or is it easy with the ATITool - and if, how to do it with the tool) and just how to do everything?

Sorry if i ask and not just do, but as i mentioned theres not much money so everything HAS TO work....

Oh, and sorry for the bad english - mothertongue is german...

 

[Jodan]

What i forgot to say: i already know this article http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/127 So please dont defer me to it.

becuase of the flashing process: do i just have to click the exe file oder what? Hey, understand - its hard for me to understand an english report - even harder if not everything is written till to the small detail since i have no idea of doing a video card bios flash. So hopefully someone can hlep me - PMs are ok to me to.

And another BIG question: How about the Sapphire X800GTO Fireblade? Is it moddable??? I could get it really cheap... but i do get nothing out of it if it is not possible to mod it.

 

[NoIdeaForANick]

Hi,

I got a Question or better a suggest....

I´ve seen many Connect 3D GTO Cards with R423 Core, with all of them it was possible to go for 16 Pipes.
Than there where a few with R480 Core, but all of them are No Go´s ..

I Got a Sapphire X800 GTO for AGP and it seems like it is unlockable, too (When i look at my ATI Tool...), the thing is, that ALL AGP GTO`s got the R423 Chip because there is no need for the PCI-E to AGP Bridge....

A Friend of mine got 4 Sapphire X800 GTO´s PCI-e. 2 of them with R423, both are unlocked with modded X800XT-PE Bios...
The other 2 Cards got the R480 and they are not unlockable (He tried all )

So my suggest, is it possible that except of the GTO 2 with R480, all Unlocked GTO´s was equipped with a R423 ?? I would go further: Is it possible that all GTO´s with R423 can be unlocked ???

Sorry for my Bad English...

 

[Jodan]

No one knows an answer to my questions?

 

[NoIdeaForANick]

No one knows an answer to my questions?

Hi,

Grüsse von Hamburg nach Ravensburg

Vielleicht hilft dir das weiter:

http://www.ati-news.de/HTML/Berichte/bios.shtml

Ist eine Bios Flash Anleitung in Deutsch, zwar etwas älter, aber man begreift leichter was womit gemeint ist

 

[Jodan]

Danke nach Hamburg...

Sonst noch Antworten?

Are there other answers?

 

[dolf]

Jodan, I will try to explain you what means "blind" flasing: In case that your monitor can't start (black screen) you have to boot from floppy (with preliminary adjusted first boot device) with flashrom and backup BIOS on it. Without seeing nothing soon after floppy stops to be active type flashrom -f -p 0 biosname.bin and press enter. Wait until you hear that the flash process is over. Restart and most probably you will have monitor again.

 

[v7100]

What if the connect3D GTO card actually has a R430 core (but ATI tool suggest that it is a R423 core
)? I understand that R430 has been used in XL with 16p http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Print.aspx?ArticleId=13690. So could I flash it to XL BIOS?

Currently successes seem to be 21 and 0 faliures so seems pretty good to me.
The only way you would not get a video signal is if the flashing went wrong or your c3d card doesnt have an R423 core, but as far as i know all the c3ds so far have had R423 cores.

Based on the current success rate ild be very surprised if you cant unlock all 16 pipes on your card, i think the worst that could happen (assuming ur card has R423) is you will be stuck with 12 pipes.

 

[ThePhased]

no go on my connect3d gto

I just received my connect3d gto from newegg. I tried using the tutorial on techpowerup. I downloaded flashrom and the modified 16p bios file. I went into dos and flashed the graphics card successfully, but ATI Tool still reports the card as 12 pipelines. I tried reflashing the card with the "-f" force function, but it didn’t make a difference.

A couple of others on newegg have reported problems flashing. Someone said that there is a new bios file? How would that change things, we can still flash back.. I saved the original bios file on the card before flashing if anyone is interested in looking at it. Maybe connect3d cut the extra pipes on this new revision of the card...

 

[noneed4me2]

i have this card and modded it fine, but check your fuse data against the ones in the article using atitool. I used this flash utility because i have no floppy and was unsuccesfull unlocking my own bios using the flashrom on a cd i burned myself. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5796&highlight=connect3d+gto Make sure to save your original bios. This guys iso worked great. burn using nero 6 or greater boot up and use option 1. you might have to uninstall and reinstall drivers. when done flashing from cd, reflash your original bios, i used winflash for this dont worry you'll keep the 16pipes, just be sure to check force box.

 

[ThePhased]

hey, noneed4me2.. I didnt try your method yet, I will now though.

I checked my fuses in ATITool heres what I got

My card is reported as a R423

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF3BFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFF71E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x860
GB_PIPE_SELECT x12B84

I did a quick search and found that these are the same fuses on the Saphire X800 Pro? and that they can't be unlocked to 16p.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=6702

 

[noneed4me2]

i guess ati or connect3d finally caught on to all the flashing, but the fact that its a r423 is good, if you are willing to remove the cooler you might check for the laser cut. i kept my stock cooling for now after the flash and my temps 40 idle 77 load. even if you can't flash you probably can overclock pretty good. When and where did you get your card. oh and one other thing most pro cards i read in the forum flashed succsefully even when others said no. it might be worth it just to try cause you never know. I just had a hard time unlocking my bios till i used the iso and figured what the hell i still was within my 30 days and could warranty it, but i don't know if everyone has that option. check out these articles http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/?i=2891 , http://pureoverclock.com/article24.html , one says in their benchies clock for clock the r423 is faster than the r480.

 

[ThePhased]

hmm..yeah ill try overclocking it after I get back from my class. I orderd it from newegg 11/22/05...just last week. They must have just changed the cores. So yours was a R480? This new R423 is a lower die correct? What does it look like when they are lazer cut..are the points on the chip (in the upper right corner) not connected? Can I try connecting them?

Thanks for your help. Ill post my OC results soon...but I am not expecting too much because I have everything in a Antec Aria case thats already crouded.