CPU for gaming

[Wazza1212]

About 65 and 47 idle

 

[GreiverBlade]

just in case
AMD FX-8120 5520
AMD FX-6300 6180
INTEL i5-4670K 6820
AMD FX-8350 6870

ok it's 3DMark 11 ... so might be not worth it to give it some attention
if upgrading to a higher FX cost less than a i5+new mobo ... then its a more logical upgrade eh? (might also go for some other goodies instead of getting a new CPU+Mobo combo)

4670k and a decent z87/z97 board would be good.

oh well yes ... indeed a 4670K would be a upg... wait a sidegrade

well taking a 8120 3DM11 score upgrading to the 8350 will do same +/- than a 4670K in a gaming benchmark score (yes yes i know AMD CPU for GAMING : BAD ... INTEL: the only solution)

About 65 and 47 idle

47° idle seems a bit ... well the Bulldozer was a bit hotter than the Vishera yet AMD CPU always are a bit hotter
well my 6300 idle @ 34° OC@4.3 1..225v

might be substantial but also
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/306/AMD_FX-Series_FX-8120_vs_AMD_FX-Series_FX-8350.html
and with the actual price of the 8350 myou might be able to get IE: a 2nd 770 if you stretch a bit the budget or later

 

[Wazza1212]

If I got the 8350 how much more performance will I see?

 

[GhostRyder]

If I got the 8350 how much more performance will I see?

Depending on the overclock, 5%-15% difference.

 

[Vario]

About 65 and 47 idle

Try remounting the cooler, clean off old paste and reapply with a small dot of thermal paste in the center of the CPU and see if it gets better. The idle is too hot.

If I got the 8350 how much more performance will I see?

You probably won't be able to tell the difference.

 

[Wazza1212]

Okay, so should I get the I7?

 

[GreiverBlade]

Okay, so should I get the I7?

You probably won't be able to tell the difference.

the same answer can apply to a i7 ah whatever get a i7 4770K and a Z87/Z97 and try it out you will see if you see or not a difference

as i said my actual rig feels quite as good as my older one with a E3-1275V2 (i7-3770 based Xeon) and a 770 (well faster tho , in game due to the R9 290 instead of the 770)
if you can afford to buy a new CPU+Mobo combo: Do it

 

[GhostRyder]

Okay, so should I get the I7?

My opinion is no you should not based on what your saying you do. If you really want to upgrade, get an unlocked i5 and save the extra 100+ bucks.

 

[Vario]

I agree don't get an i7.

 

[GreiverBlade]

My opinion is no you should not based on what your saying you do. If you really want to upgrade, get an unlocked i5 and save the extra 100+ bucks.

and save another extra 50 to 75 with a 8350 ,which you would not see a "huge" difference, as he could keep his motherboard... (as a i5 would not really be a upgrade nor is the 8350)

the whole point of i5 and 8350 is same yet you would not see a huge improvement nor with a i7
AMD FX-6300 6180
INTEL i5-4670K 6820
AMD FX-8350 6870
i also, personally tested it with my friends rigs (i5+770) as i said previously my 6300+290 had the same result (fps and smoothness feelings, a bit higher tho due to the 290) in any games we compared (and i bet it would have been same if i had a 8350+770)

if people made him believe what he conclude and he has the money to do so, why not let him take the "topnotch" variante and make his own opinion (not totally sure but i recall a user saying 8120 is shit a OC Q6600 run around in circle ... well i wish he would have taken a 8350 instead or even a 6300)

tho i would say : if you feel your rig is sluggish in games, then upgrade, if it's still running fine then keep it like that or go for a 8350/9370/9590, if you think Intel is the way to go, then go Intel, yet, it's known the 6300 and above are on par with the i5 line and cost less, ok some says i5-2500K but ... well a i5-4670K is not a huge step over a 2500K and if a 8350 is on par with a 2500K the 4670K is close too (yet i like to use 3DM11 scores as a base argument xD i know i know bad habit.)

 

[tuunade988]

If i had your computer and really wanted to upgrade... i would just upgrade the gpu to like a 780 or a r9 290x. LEave teh cpu it should be finefor now, im even thinking aobut upgrading from an AMD 1100t to an AMD FX8350 but not sure if i should..

EDIT: OTherwise don't bother upgrading at all their both still very good..

 

[Dent1]

If I got the 8350 how much more performance will I see?

Not a lot, the Piledriver is only a small refinement. 10-15% maximum, average maybe 5% increase. You may even get less performance on the odd application.

It's really not worth the upgrade IMO.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Not a lot, the Piledriver is only a small refinement. 10-15% maximum, average maybe 5% increase. You may even get less performance on the odd application.

It's really not worth the upgrade IMO.

technically ...
AMD FX-8350 advantages

• In single-threaded programs, the microprocessor is 26% faster.
• Multi-threaded performance of the AMD FX-8350 is higher.
• In memory-intensive applications, the CPU has 20% better performance.
• In graphics programs, the FX-8350 has 4% higher performance.
• The FX-8350 supports F16C and FMA3 instructions, that were introduced in modern CPUs not too far ago. These extensions are not broadly used in applications yet, however their support should improve in future programs.

at the price of a 8350 yep might be not worth the upgrade

but
AMD FX-6300 advantages

• In single-threaded tasks, the CPU is about 13% faster.
• Memory performance of the microprocessor is better.
• This CPU performs 2% faster in graphics applications and games.
• The AMD FX-6300 includes F16C and FMA3 instructions. These extensions are not widely used in programs yet, but their support should improve in future apps.
• Power consumption of the processor is lower.
• The CPU is priced 27% cheaper than the AMD FX-8120.
• The microprocessor has 44% better price/performance ratio.

depending on the OC a 6300 can also do good versus a 8120

dunno i never got to go Bulldozer (i knew since the launch that it was a failure so i waited for Vishera but got some financial difficulties... to a point that even a X4 760K at 70$ was the only option xD )

 

[64K]

I would stick with the GTX 770 for a few more months until the rest of the Maxwells come out. At 1080p it's fine for gaming except if you have the 2GB version you may be limited to less than max settings in some games in the near future. Watch Dogs is an example. You probably already know this but I expect Nvidia will set a high retail price on them. If the GTX 870 performs around the GTX 780 then I expect it will possibly go for around $500. Probably the 20nm Maxwell Flagship won't come for another year or so. It should be a beast. That would be a very nice upgrade for you especially if you think you might be going to a 1440p monitor or a 120/144 Hz monitor. I will probably get a GTX 780Ti to go with the 1440p monitor I'm looking at and wait on the 20nm Maxwell Flagship for the next upgrade. As far as a great CPU for gaming I would go with an i5. If you can wait for Devil's Canyon then that would be best. I'm waiting on Skylake for a new build.

 

[Dent1]

@ GreiverBlade

Keep in mind I'm talking about the OP going from an FX 8120 @ 4GHz Bulldozer to an FX 8350 Piledriver. More of a side grade.

 

[redeye]

a i3-4330 will peg a gtx680amp! (1241/6600) ... thus if the game you want to play is cpu bound, go with a better processor.

in any case IMO an i3-4330, 1600ddr3, is better (maybe alot) better than an 8120. i have a fx8350, and in cpu benchmarks it is better due to multicore. but as soon has it is single core, the fx8350 trips over itself.

AMD GRAPHICS CARDs are worthy of note!... their CPUs are not.

for the MB, all depends on how low you want to go... a MSI81i, (only pcie-2.0) is cheap. A asus h87i-plus is super.
a gigabyte h87n-wifi is good only if you do not upgrade the BIOS to F7. (I have a support ticket outstanding on that issue). all of these MB are mITX, due using them with MYTHTV.

 

[redeye]

@64K

Keep in mind I'm talking about the OP going from an FX 8120 @ 4GHz Bulldozer to an FX 8350 Piledriver. More of a side grade.

thinking of going to an fx 8350? ... some 3dmark benchmarks with the fx8350, i3-4330, g3420 (all using a gtx680 1240/6600)

7177 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2256218 , fx8350 4g4 2.6 ht,hb, 2133ddr 9,11,10,30
4004 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2299767 , g3420, 1600ddr 8,8,8,24,1t tRFC 107
6500 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2240092 ,i3-4330, 1600ddr 8,8,8,24,1t tRFC 107

the difference in the scores is in the CPU, the graphics tests have the same FPS on gt1 40.5, and on gt2 33.09

which means that the graphics card, does not matter but the cpu does... in the case of a gtx680 1241/6600.
for me on a i3-4330 or a fx8350, they are both fast enough on crysis, crysis3, tombraider... my preference is the i3-4330, but the fx-8350 at fx8350 4g4 2.6 ht,hb is ok, except it is not as smooth.
but in three years you might be better off with the fx8350 because all the games will be ported from the xbox1/ps4 which has 8 cores... (then again intel has more CPU's out there so it is MOOT point.)

while i say that the i3-4330 feels smoother than a fx-8350, the i3 is 2core 4 thread CPU, and a fx8350 is 8 cores...
so the bragging rights go to a fx-8350...

 

[GreiverBlade]

thinking of going to an fx 8350? ... some 3dmark benchmarks with the fx8350, i3-4330, g3420 (all using a gtx680 1240/6600)

7177 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2256218 , fx8350 4g4 2.6 ht,hb, 2133ddr 9,11,10,30
4004 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2299767 , g3420, 1600ddr 8,8,8,24,1t tRFC 107
6500 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2240092 ,i3-4330, 1600ddr 8,8,8,24,1t tRFC 107

the difference in the scores is in the CPU, the graphics tests have the same FPS on gt1 40.5, and on gt2 33.09

which means that the graphics card, does not matter but the cpu does... in the case of a gtx680 1241/6600.
for me on a i3-4330 or a fx8350, they are both fast enough on crysis, crysis3, tombraider... my preference is the i3-4330, but the fx-8350 at fx8350 4g4 2.6 ht,hb is ok, except it is not as smooth.
but in three years you might be better off with the fx8350 because all the games will be ported from the xbox1/ps4 which has 8 cores... (then again intel has more CPU's out there so it is MOOT point.)

while i say that the i3-4330 feels smoother than a fx-8350, the i3 is 2core 4 thread CPU, and a fx8350 is 8 cores...
so the bragging rights go to a fx-8350...

AMD FX-8120 5520
AMD FX-6300 6180
INTEL i5-4670K 6820
AMD FX-8350 6870

numbers are numbers, altho real life feeling is different i noticed no real one between my E3-1275V2 and my actuall 6300 and that Xeon is a i7-3770 core, i am tempted to take a z97 + 4790K and side it to my 990X + 6300 just for the laugh of the numbers versus real feel, and yup i do feel the 6300 smother than my i5-2400 and not smoother or more sluggish than the E3-1275V2, it seems to vary from pa person to another (propaganda brainwashing is strong in the intel side (joke))

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