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[SimFreak47]

You're a what?? I never heard of paraplegic.

 

[toloratedmeat]

I've never heard of a toenaill.

 

[Mussels]

You're a what?? I never heard of paraplegic.

they're people without toenails

I've never heard of a toenaill.

See?



lets go back on topic guys! nehalem benchies!

 

[toloratedmeat]

installing os...

 

[BarbaricSoul]

you aint done yet?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

jk, tighten up man, alot of us are waiting

 

[toloratedmeat]

sorry but vista keeps blue-screening

 

[farlex85]

What's the error code? And what about turbo mode (turning off two cores to give more power to the other two), are you gonna try that at all?

 

[btarunr]

Can I see a CPU-Z validation of that i7 please? Post the link to the validation page. Submitted by < your TPU username >

You're a what?? I never heard of paraplegic.

A person with dysfunctional legs/parts of legs because of spinal injury/disease.

 

[Solaris17]

Can I see a CPU-Z validation of that i7 please? Post the link to the validation page. Submitted by < your TPU username >



A person with dysfunctional legs/parts of legs because of spinal injury/disease.

he cant cpu-z verify the os wont install imo its a simple error the poor guy is having but since were acting like a pack of wolves he's probably going about building insanely fast and he might be making mistakes i suggest we all calm down and be civil he's doing us a favor and he doesnt need to.

 

[Bundy]

sorry but vista keeps blue-screening

I suggest you try...

a) recheck that you have all your RAM inserted properly.
b) post us pictures of the BIOS and your settings, especially the screen where the voltages are set.
c) if you have changed the drive, suggest you post pictures of the BIOS page where the HDD options are set e.g. IDE/AHCI etc.

Oh - WELCOME TO TPU!

 

[FordGT90Concept]

What is the STOP code on the BSOD and when does it occur? For the purpose of benchmarking, it may be best just to stick to XP. It would not invalidate the results as long as both computers are using the same OS. I wouldn't rule out that a component has gone bad either...

 

[btarunr]

he cant cpu-z verify the os wont install imo its a simple error the poor guy is having but since were acting like a pack of wolves he's probably going about building insanely fast and he might be making mistakes i suggest we all calm down and be civil he's doing us a favor and he doesnt need to.

When you start a "Future CPU is bad" discussion, the first thing I'd expect from you, is your experience with the CPU, and before which, your validation. I'm as calm as a cucumber, and civil as ever, but I'd still like a validation.

 

[toloratedmeat]

I screwed with Vista. XP works on it. I'm just installing the discs now. I'll do the benchmarks tomorrow after school. I have a gigantic headache trying to make Vista to work. I might take a shower rest and go to sleep. Because when I move my head hurts ><.

EDIT: I meant my head hurts when I move. I really need to sleep.

 

[wahdangun]

he cant cpu-z verify the os wont install imo its a simple error the poor guy is having but since were acting like a pack of wolves he's probably going about building insanely fast and he might be making mistakes i suggest we all calm down and be civil he's doing us a favor and he doesnt need to.

we are the TPUers, and we are hungry for new benchies.wolf wolf

and please come on fast.


b'coz i can't stand anymore. my fingger can't stop pressing "reffres" button,.

 

[wahdangun]

I screwed with Vista. XP works on it. I'm just installing the discs now. I'll do the benchmarks tomorrow after school. I have a gigantic headache trying to make Vista to work. I might take a shower rest and go to sleep. Because when I move my head hurts ><.

up's sorry mate, keep cool don't rush yourself, we dont want you to get sick because it will be bad for us.

and we can wait the benchies

 

[Tatty_Two]

But I cant have the same amount of RAM because of the channels.

Both machines will have an identical 750GB Hard Drive. I'm just installing the OS now.

It will probally be vista.

The ram quantities wont make any difference for straight synthetic benching, 2gig and 3gig will be fine.

 

[Mussels]

he could technically run 3GB or 6GB and have it compare directly.


2x2GB + 2x1GB = 6GB dual channel, its working in my PC in specs.
Then just 3x2GB for triple channel on the other.

 

[Dia01]

The BSOD issues wouldn't be caused by the >3GB RAM issue upon installing Vista would it? Run with 2GB, install, patch, add remaining RAM, or am I missing something?

 

[Mussels]

The BSOD issues wouldn't be caused by the >3GB RAM issue upon installing Vista would it? Run with 2GB, install, patch, add remaining RAM, or am I missing something?

is there a 3GB problem? I've never heard of it, and i've installed vista with 4 and 6GB's

 

[Dia01]

is there a 3GB problem? I've never heard of it, and i've installed vista with 4 and 6GB's

Any more than 2GB and installing Vista 64 I BSOD, everytime. SP1 has the hotfix included.

 

[qubit]

Missing something

The early posts saying that the system can't be compared properly are right on the clock frequencies and RAM, but wrong on the storage device: using a HD or an SSD makes absolutely no difference to the result. After all, we are not measuring how fast the system's I/O is, are we?

All the benchmarks should be quoted when all the data has been loaded into RAM, as is the case after the second run and sometimes even during then first, depending on the benchmark. Therefore, the performance of the storage device will be isolated and hence irrelevent to the result.

 

[Mussels]

The early posts saying that the system can't be compared properly are right on the clock frequencies and RAM, but wrong on the storage device: using a HD or an SSD makes absolutely no difference to the result. After all, we are not measuring how fast the system's I/O is, are we?

All the benchmarks should be quoted when all the data has been loaded into RAM, as is the case after the second run and sometimes even during then first, depending on the benchmark. Therefore, the performance of the storage device will be isolated and hence irrelevent to the result.

if it was a Jmicron/samsung SSD drive, the 900ms random read latency could have caused system stalls, screwing up tests even if they were running from memory. IO subsystem lag tends to slow a whole PC down (try ejecting/inserting DVD's while gaming, for example)

 

[FordGT90Concept]

The ram quantities wont make any difference for straight synthetic benching, 2gig and 3gig will be fine.

There's a question about tri-channel having some latency issues which is why it needs to be tested in dual-channel and tri-channel.

 

[qubit]

if it was a Jmicron/samsung SSD drive, the 900ms random read latency could have caused system stalls, screwing up tests even if they were running from memory. IO subsystem lag tends to slow a whole PC down (try ejecting/inserting DVD's while gaming, for example)

While ejecting a CD does indeed cause Windows to stall for a bit, I'd be surprised if an SSD would have such an effect, especially if all the data is in RAM and it's not being accessed from it.

Heck, if in doubt, just repeat the bench using identical hardware other than the storage device. Then one will have an objective result, free of anyone's opinion.

EDIT: thinking about it, comparing ejecting a CD to the access time of a drive is not the same thing at all and therefore irrelevant. There's no eject function on a HD or SSD for a start. A relevant comparison would be the access time of a CD drive to access the files on it, which would take ages, as these devices are very slow. Then, as the files are loaded into RAM, the access and load times become irrelevant, don't they?

 

[Mussels]

While ejecting a CD does indeed cause Windows to stall for a bit, I'd be surprised if an SSD would have such an effect, especially if all the data is in RAM and it's not being accessed from it.

Heck, if in doubt, just repeat the bench using identical hardware other than the storage device. Then one will have an objective result, free of anyone's opinion.

EDIT: thinking about it, comparing ejecting a CD to the access time of a drive is not the same thing at all and therefore irrelevant. There's no eject function on a HD or SSD for a start. A relevant comparison would be the access time of a CD drive to access the files on it, which would take ages, as these devices are very slow. Then, as the files are loaded into RAM, the access and load times become irrelevant, don't they?

You're missing the point. most SSD's on the market currently are *bugged* and they cause lag problems of upto 900ms. thats nearly a second, during which the entire PC would lag, just like the DVD problem. Its not like the benchmark needs to be the one reading either, there's usually something accessing a HDD, be it a program or the OS.