Dragon Age II

[ComradeSader]

ROLL DRAGON AGE 3.

Please, with Bioware's obvious lacking in ability to make decent sequels (DA2, ME2), DA3 will be worse in every way, shape and form. And on top of all that it will cost $110USD and charge $30 for a new DLC every month containing a single sword with a bell-end attachment.

 

[Jaffakeik]

Please, with Bioware's obvious lacking in ability to make decent sequels (DA2, ME2), DA3 will be worse in every way, shape and form. And on top of all that it will cost $110USD and charge $30 for a new DLC every month containing a single sword with a bell-end attachment.

Why you allways say something about game, that you cant possible know.And saying that the next sequel will be worse or better is just stupid,on fact that you dont know anything about it.

 

[razaron]

I'm playing on hard difficulty for my first play through because I'm one of the rare few people (note sarcasm) who knew the game had been dumbed down. To add to that I'm not keeping an offensive mage in my party seeing as friendly fire only works on nightmare difficulty, which makes them feel overpowered to me.
As a sequel to a quasi DnD game (like KOTOR) it's not that good but as a game on it's own I think it's on par with DA:O. However I must agree with the stupid thing they did to armor, I spent 30 minutes trying to strip the elf chick...
Since I'm here I'll mention that ME1 sucked. It failed as a shooter, a rpg and a rpg-shooter.

 

[BumbleBee]

nobody is putting a gun to your head to buy DLC.

if you're frustrated, direct your frustration at Bethesda for pioneering the DLC market.

 

[Mussels]

please edit the language out of your post Ctrain, we dont really approve of it here.

 

[n-ster]

i think i've read/played enough to comment on DAII now, a mini review if you will.

• 
  Pros:
• Simplified combat. Still many trees to branch into, but each spell seems more effective on their own now.
• Nice graphical improvments
• Stable game (zero crashes for me)
• In depth backstories/quests for each party character.
  Main character is voiced, most dialogue is 'cinematic'

Simplified combat, IMO is not a pro for PC users. I like it, but it takes alot of the tactics out of DA2. It does kind of improve the gameplay because you don't have to pause as much or think as much, but the was THE WHOLE POINT of Dragon Age.

Was DA I and DA:O not stable?

I do like the way you meet your companions... Funny thing though

Spoiler: If you haven't done the Deep Rods Expedition yet do not read

I forgot to go to Varren's place (Hanged Man) before going to the Deep Roads expedition, so I didn't meet Isabella. Then After beating the dragon in the Deep Roads, I found the Armor of the fallen, I was missing the boots so I googled where I could find it, apparently it was in the Undercity Warrens when you go with the mage Qunari, so I did the quest again with one of my saves, found it very easily, and then went back to my save before the expedition and cheated into getting it (runscript vaddin with the download thing) and then finished all the quests I could find. Now I'm back to restarting the Deep Roads expedition again

Oh and for those of you who Don't wanna lose Bethany (or Carver) in the Deep Roads, BRING BETHANY AND ANDERS with you so she becomes a Grey Warden, I accidentally read this somewhere online and I'm glad I did, didn't want my sister to die She will be a HUGE loss in my party though... She has at least half the kills on average in a fight its crazy

 

[alucasa]

Yeah, I missed Isabella on my first play. Unfortunately, I don't feel like playing a second time, so no Isabella for me.

 

[Nailezs]

wait, what? so you cant change the inventory of your party members? does their equipment atleast upgrade as they level up? they do level up, right?

 

[alucasa]

wait, what? so you cant change the inventory of your party members? does their equipment atleast upgrade as they level up? they do level up, right?

They level up by giving them "gifts". They are certain special items found throughout the game. You can naturally find few along normal play and some others require some searching.

As they upgrade, they appearance change a little along the way.

 

[Nailezs]

well thats gay.

 

[Mussels]

wait, what? so you cant change the inventory of your party members? does their equipment atleast upgrade as they level up? they do level up, right?

well thats gay.

basically, doing their side quests upgrades their armor. sometimes via random items you can buy as gifts.


most of them allow you to choose what weapon they have, varric for example you cant.


mostly its just belt, two rings, one amulet you can customise.

 

[ComradeSader]

Why you allways say something about game, that you cant possible know.And saying that the next sequel will be worse or better is just stupid,on fact that you dont know anything about it.

Dragon Age sequel sucked.

Mass Effect Sequel sucked.

You do the math. You do know what a "Pattern" is, right?

There was also some slight exaggeration in there as well, in case you also failed to notice that.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

well its not like bioware cant make a good game, they usually start out with something good the first time around, examples

Kotor vs Kotor II
DA:O vs DA II
ME vs ME 2

notice the pattern? Bioware always tends to go down hill with each subsequent release, in a series, mostly because of 3 reason

1) Publisher rushes them thats why Kotor II sucked and had massive ammounts of missing content, Lucas Arts wanted the game released so thats what they did,
2) They try to appeal to the largest possible audience of sheeple who are content, to play games with lesser gameplay then we had 10 years ago.
3) Money DA II will be a success, it will sell like meth to an addict, As much as i bitch about game companies most of the blame falls on the new generation of gamers, who cant even take a piss without needing a game developer to hold there hand,


I ask anyone here to compare the games we use to play with the games we have now,
difficulty has become a joke
gameplay has been stripped of all depth and replaced with mindless garbage
game companies lie to the end user and get paid for it cause people are stupid,

I cant wait for skyrim supposedly bethesda is going back to there roots with morrowind type gameplay but if thats the case, why are they using a fallout type lvl system with even less skills to learn and improve the Oblivion, its another example of a game thats becoming far more about being a badass killing machine out the gate then earning it. Ah well, people will still buy garbage, i do it as well i just wait till its so god damn cheap on steam that even if i wiped my ass with my money instead i really wouldnt be out anything as steam offers deals you cant really argue with.

 

[alucasa]

Skyrim is my last hope for a good RPG this year.

I am expecting ME3 to be fun but probably won't be as good as ME1 anyway.

God damn it, give me a RPG that I can virtually live in !

 

[BumbleBee]

well its not like bioware cant make a good game, they usually start out with something good the first time around, examples

Kotor vs Kotor II
DA:O vs DA II
ME vs ME 2

notice the pattern? Bioware always tends to go down hill with each subsequent release, in a series, mostly because of 3 reason

1) Publisher rushes them thats why Kotor II sucked and had massive ammounts of missing content, Lucas Arts wanted the game released so thats what they did,
2) They try to appeal to the largest possible audience of sheeple who are content, to play games with lesser gameplay then we had 10 years ago.
3) Money DA II will be a success, it will sell like meth to an addict, As much as i bitch about game companies most of the blame falls on the new generation of gamers, who cant even take a piss without needing a game developer to hold there hand,


I ask anyone here to compare the games we use to play with the games we have now,
difficulty has become a joke
gameplay has been stripped of all depth and replaced with mindless garbage
game companies lie to the end user and get paid for it cause people are stupid,

I cant wait for skyrim supposedly bethesda is going back to there roots with morrowind type gameplay but if thats the case, why are they using a fallout type lvl system with even less skills to learn and improve the Oblivion, its another example of a game thats becoming far more about being a badass killing machine out the gate then earning it. Ah well, people will still buy garbage, i do it as well i just wait till its so god damn cheap on steam that even if i wiped my ass with my money instead i really wouldnt be out anything as steam offers deals you cant really argue with.

Obsidian developed Kotor II.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

i stand corrected bumble bee but still dosent change the fact in the last 10 years Bioware has failed to release a follow up game thats been worth a damn, they start with a great idea thats a great game then it just all goes to hell in a hand basket with the sequels

no one in here can tell me DA2 is anywhere near as good as DA they butchered the game to an extreme fixing what wasnt broken did the same thing with the Mass Effect series, hell in ME2 i found my companions actually got dumber then in the first game, with multiple times in the game im forced to restart a mission multiple times just because the my companions as the ignorance syndrome of running straight up to an enemy and getting shot in the face,

the last good game from bioware was Baldurs Gate 2 Shadows of Amn, that was the only time they had a sequel that was better then the original or improved on something, they have a tendency to make 1 hit wonder series of games, that allow them to sell shitty sequels that people buy simply because they first game left a good impression, and again any company that loses high lvl employees due to direction changes in a series kinda tells alot on the internal situation at bioware, when a high ranking employee of 10 years gets fed up and shoe horned into a dead end project due to voicing concern over the direction DA II was taking. Bioware is going to become the next infinity ward, pumping out a new game every year and raking in money dilluting the 2 new series theyve established.

I have the feeling Dragon Age 3 will be more akin to Oblivion with stupid AI companions and Mass Effect 3 will be more in common with Gears of War,

 

[erocker]

Oh no! They changed the game, simplified it and it's not the same as it was before! Gosh, I sure am angry. For what the game is, I found it somewhat fun and playable. Yes, I found some things missing and a bit annoying. It's a video game though, I doubt my bitching will change anything.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

true erocker bitching wont change it but what else can i do? or anyone that gets tired of the same regurgitated shit? even if you vote with your wallet you know as well as i do that dosent work, due to the massive number of ignorant people in the world you either conform and put a shit eating grin on your face and say thank you or your bound to just look at whats coming and wonder why anyone plays it, last i checked i cant eat shit so i take the option where i bitch and complain.

 

[erocker]

true erocker bitching wont change it but what else can i do? or anyone that gets tired of the same regurgitated shit? even if you vote with your wallet you know as well as i do that dosent work, due to the massive number of ignorant people in the world you either conform and put a shit eating grin on your face and say thank you or your bound to just look at whats coming and wonder why anyone plays it, last i checked i cant eat shit so i take the option where i bitch and complain.

Just don't buy it. Write a letter to the developer? All in all, if people don't buy these games they'll come up with something new to sell. If people do buy these games and enjoy them, they'll keep making these games and those who don't like it can waste their energy by complaining about it. It just doesn't seem productive at all.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

yea well you gotta remember i cant game at all really except on a PS3, that i hate using lol as my pc is only stable at desktop that said ive played the games and in my opinion they suck, Im fine with them doing what they want to make money dosent mean i need to be happy about every game being released turning into a copy cat clone pos. I happen to expect more from the games im expected to pay $140 or so for the full experience, if you get what im saying. Developers dont read letters, if they did they wouldnt do the shit they do lol. Theyll do whatever appeals to the largest base of casual gamers they can, they want to simplify things to the extent, that Mr and Ms farmville can play it understand it etc. Maybe im stuck in the past when games were better the gameplay was better story and context was better the overall experience was better, I live nice shiny graphics etc there always a good help in helping with immersion in a game, but are you honestly gonna tell me any of todays games really hold a candle in terms of gameplay and story of past titles, i dont think they do, went from 80-200hr RPGs down to 15hrs, so mr casual can play it to, thats fine more people enjoy it you make more money but at the same time 4-6hr main campaigns and 15hrs in an RPG there really isnt value in games today, To be blunt erocker if i want hack and slash and point and click id just play Diablo or Sacred, thats what DAII reminds me of nothing more then a glorified version of those 2 games, i prefer better story that actually flows, companions with deep interactions etc,

almost no game in recent memory offers better characters and story then BGII, or the likes, In general todays games could be far better, if they took those 10-50 million dollar advertising campaigns and put it into game development, Then again i probably expect far to much and should just shut up and eat my shit sandwich like everyone else and then smile and say it tastes good right?

 

[n-ster]

I still find DA II above average and I enjoy playing it.... It's hard to improve on DA:O

 

[erocker]

yea well you gotta remember i cant game at all really except on a PS3, that i hate using lol as my pc is only stable at desktop that said ive played the games and in my opinion they suck, Im fine with them doing what they want to make money dosent mean i need to be happy about every game being released turning into a copy cat clone pos. I happen to expect more from the games im expected to pay $140 or so for the full experience, if you get what im saying. Developers dont read letters, if they did they wouldnt do the shit they do lol. Theyll do whatever appeals to the largest base of casual gamers they can, they want to simplify things to the extent, that Mr and Ms farmville can play it understand it etc. Maybe im stuck in the past when games were better the gameplay was better story and context was better the overall experience was better, I live nice shiny graphics etc there always a good help in helping with immersion in a game, but are you honestly gonna tell me any of todays games really hold a candle in terms of gameplay and story of past titles, i dont think they do, went from 80-200hr RPGs down to 15hrs, so mr casual can play it to, thats fine more people enjoy it you make more money but at the same time 4-6hr main campaigns and 15hrs in an RPG there really isnt value in games today, To be blunt erocker if i want hack and slash and point and click id just play Diablo or Sacred, thats what DAII reminds me of nothing more then a glorified version of those 2 games, i prefer better story that actually flows, companions with deep interactions etc,

almost no game in recent memory offers better characters and story then BGII, or the likes, In general todays games could be far better, if they took those 10-50 million dollar advertising campaigns and put it into game development, Then again i probably expect far to much and should just shut up and eat my shit sandwich like everyone else and then smile and say it tastes good right?

Well, I make my own sandwiches and I make the choice of not putting shit on them.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

nice way to pull out 1 comment and ignore all other points, touche sir touche

 

[n-ster]

How much FPS are you guys getting? I'm getting only 28~38 FPS constant with my 6870, no AA but all the rest ticked and maxed. Find that quite low. should I be worried?

 

[erocker]

nice way to pull out 1 comment and ignore all other points, touche sir touche

Yeah, I've seen the other points in this thread over and over and over and over again... The points as you have described many times I really don't care about. I do find the people regurgitating these things in anger facinating though.