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GLD · Jun 4, 2009

erocker said:
If you are just a normal "end-user", don't bother getting all upset that they took it away from you since this offer wasn't for you in the first place.

I am trying to p o a mod or anything, but I don't understand/agree. I was able to sign up yesterday with TechNet. Everyone else they permitted to sign up should be entitled to what they were signing up for. If MS chose to allow sign ups for free they should honor that decision and uphold their end of the deal. I didn't read EVERY word of the EULA, but did not see any exclusions that said it wasn't for me.

I did find this in the Information on Terms of Use: "Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and non-commercial use." I assume personal use is the same as the end user.

Regardless of the cost of an item. Free or for many dollars, if someone gives or sells you something and then doesn't give it to you, it isn't right. People start lawsuits over this kind of thing.

El Fiendo · Jun 4, 2009

The point was that this wasn't an open to the public thing. This was a reward for people who tried out their Beta service, which was sent by E-mail directly to them. It was one of these people that posted it on their blog and the net took it from there. This wasn't intended for public consumption.

El Fiendo · Jun 5, 2009

Sorry for the double post, I just found this interesting.

Article 1
Article 2

Mussels · Jun 5, 2009

good info fiendo, it was worth a bump so the double post is understandable.

The way i see it is this: microsoft doesnt really have the legal right to do much here. There was nothing telling us we couldnt use the service, or block it - they have the right to remove the offer and stop us getting more keys, but they could be in legal hotsoup for offering something free and then calling you a pirate and taking legal action because you accepted the offer.

h3llb3nd4 · Jun 5, 2009

They actually should'nt call us "pirates" because we never knew that it wasn't for us?
they should've just told everyone that those keys wont work any more...
Damn them for calling us "PIRATES"

El Fiendo · Jun 5, 2009

I think the "Dirty Pirates" line was creative writing. Remember, it is just a blog. However no matter how they dress it up in the PR, that's most likely how it boils down to them viewing the public who participated.

Charper2013 · Jun 5, 2009

Do the keys still work that we got?..

Kenshai · Jun 5, 2009

Charper2013 said:
Do the keys still work that we got?..

I'm pretty sure we have to wait til tonight to get a definitive answer.

Dippyskoodlez · Jun 5, 2009

Charper2013 said:
Do the keys still work that we got?..

Mine is still functional. (i.E. Activated). Subject to change at any time that microsoft figures out wtf went on, but I don't think they'll be able to blacklist all of the keys.

Worst case, all the keys now become invalid.

El Fiendo · Jun 5, 2009

And as mentioned in the comments of the links, you'd probably still be able to get around it as long as you didn't try to update those products. But if the keys are blacklisted its still viewed as pirated software.

Kenshai · Jun 5, 2009

El Fiendo said:
And as mentioned in the comments of the links, you'd probably still be able to get around it as long as you didn't try to update those products. But if the keys are blacklisted its still viewed as pirated software.

But it isn't technically pirated software, I'm relatively sure that they can't legally black list all the keys.

Mussels · Jun 5, 2009

the way i see it, the keys may well get deactivated - but we wont get charged or anything like that. they cant.

Charper2013 · Jun 5, 2009

Mussels said:
the way i see it, the keys may well get deactivated - but we wont get charged or anything like that. they cant.

Cause i was gonna install Vista Today... Using one of they keys..

Mussels · Jun 5, 2009

Charper2013 said:
Cause i was gonna install Vista Today... Using one of they keys..

you can try. i'm trying server 2008 R2 in a virtual machine tomorrow.

richjordan255 · Jun 5, 2009

i dont see how people can complain, yes ok i didnt get chance to register and get any keys but so what in retrospect im glad because its a mistake on someones part and an awful lot of people in cluding a couple on here mentioning no names have taken the mick

Deleted member 24505 · Jun 5, 2009

I got 4 keys for vista,and 2 for xp.thats all i needed.On that blog,i think it said some people had got 300,now that is taking the mick.

Mussels · Jun 5, 2009

tigger said:
I got 4 keys for vista,and 2 for xp.thats all i needed.On that blog,i think it said some people had got 300,now that is taking the mick.

its limited to 10 keys for a retail OS, and 1 per server.

Sure they might have got 300 keys, but i had about 30 for programs i've never heard of already provided the second i signed in.

and then with the lag (clicking once, erroring, clicking again - getting 7 keys) i'm not surprised some people got lots of keys.

Dippyskoodlez · Jun 5, 2009

tigger said:
I got 4 keys for vista,and 2 for xp.thats all i needed.On that blog,i think it said some people had got 300,now that is taking the mick.

As most of us sit here thinking "Damn I should have done that!" :roll:

I don't think they're worried about those of us that got like 1-2 keys, I think they don't like the fact that since it was public, I'm sure theres a lot of people that have... "uses" for these keys... illegally, and Microsoft can't really stop it.

richjordan255 · Jun 5, 2009

like i said only a couple on here took the mick but i dont see why people complain it wasnt meant for them yes microsoft should have had a better system but they didnt and people took advantage of somethin that wasnt meant for them

Mussels · Jun 5, 2009

richjordan255 said:
like i said only a couple on here took the mick but i dont see why people complain it wasnt meant for them yes microsoft should have had a better system but they didnt and people took advantage of somethin that wasnt meant for them

There is two sides to this:

1.People took advantage of a free offer, and abused it. This caused the offer to be cancelled.

2. Microsoft gave something away for free. Legally, they cant ask for it back.

In the end they will find a way to get around this - blacklist the keys if they're used more than 5 times, something like that.

Deleted member 24505 · Jun 5, 2009

It was their own system that let them down.anyone who was'nt offically invited should not have been able to sign up.They pwnd themselves and are crying.

h3llb3nd4 · Jun 5, 2009

They shot themselves again...:shadedshu

richjordan255 · Jun 5, 2009

then why didnt people excercise common sense and think "microsoft dont do thits sort of thing" the people who signed in had to know that when MS caught on then it was goin to be stopped and they would even slightly punish because they are microsoft

Mussels · Jun 5, 2009

richjordan255 said:
then why didnt people excercise common sense and think "microsoft dont do thits sort of thing" the people who signed in had to know that when MS caught on then it was goin to be stopped and they would even slightly punish because they are microsoft

i've been given free operating systems by microsoft before, at their public events. how was i to know this wasnt a PR stunt to get more technet subscriptions? its worked, a lot of people who missed out on the "deal" are talking about buying it.

I will be once i upgrade to 7, its cheaper to buy technet than it is to buy 7 ultimate retail!

Deleted member 24505 · Jun 5, 2009

Because people are people,if a shop accidently put a sign up saying 50" tv for $50,no one would just buy one,they'd all buy 10.

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