Gaming like Youtube 60fps playback videos

[Animalpak]

Hey guys i wonder even with G-Sync and 144hz refresh rate my 1080p monitor and 780 ti, while i gaming i dont see that incredible smoothness like the 60 fps videos recorded on youtube.

Yes it is way better than 60 hz monitors and no G-Sync no doubt but... Youtube videos are another Whole level.

Sure there is something i dont know.

What should have or what to get for that beautiful smoothness of the youtube video?

Somebody can be kind and explain why to me ?

Thanks !

 

[RCoon]

The FPS of a 60p youtube video never changes. It's permanently running at 60FPS.

When gaming, even with GSync, your framerate is constantly changing, so you'll notice stuttering (the kind of stuttering caused by a large change in FPS). The load a game causes can be totally variable and erratic. The load of a youtube video is constant, therefore smooth.

 

[Animalpak]

The FPS of a 60p youtube video never changes. It's permanently running at 60FPS.

When gaming, even with GSync, your framerate is constantly changing, so you'll notice stuttering (the kind of stuttering caused by a large change in FPS). The load a game causes can be totally variable and erratic. The load of a youtube video is constant, therefore smooth.

Thank you RCoon ! Now i understand because the fps fluctuate up and down while on youtube are constantly fixed.

And when we have a hardware that holds constant FPS or what we have to wait to be implemented?

Will it ever be possible in the games?

 

[R-T-B]

You can already force your FPS to stay at a rate like 60FPS. in some games It will only seem perfectly smooth though if you NEVER dip below 60FPS, which is never really a guarantee unless playing old games or having very powerful hardware.

 

[RejZoR]

Video framerate is NOT equal to real-time 3D rendered framerate. That's why video feels different than 3D at same constant "framerate".

 

[R-T-B]

Good point. It's also why many movies are shot at 24FPS and it looks just fine to most people.

 

[qubit]

Hey guys i wonder even with G-Sync and 144hz refresh rate my 1080p monitor and 780 ti, while i gaming i dont see that incredible smoothness like the 60 fps videos recorded on youtube.

Yes it is way better than 60 hz monitors and no G-Sync no doubt but... Youtube videos are another Whole level.

Sure there is something i dont know.

What should have or what to get for that beautiful smoothness of the youtube video?

Somebody can be kind and explain why to me ?

Thanks !

Running your monitor at 60Hz and locking your vsync to the refresh rate while gaming will feel just as smooth as that YouTube video just as long as there are no dropped frames. You can check for dropped frames by running a frame rate measurement tool such as Fraps. Get it free from www.fraps.com. With your graphics card and an old game it will be a piece of cake to achieve this. Doing this at 120Hz or 144Hz will look a lot smoother still and will feel significantly less laggy too.

Finally, to get real smoothness from an LCD monitor, you need to have a strobing backlight, which eliminates motion blur - the bane of all LCD displays otherwise - and makes them perform as well with motion as the old CRT which looks amazing. Depending on the model however, the strobe may only work at 120Hz, such as with my Asus.

I've heard a lot of good things about G-Sync and adaptive sync in general, but I've never seen it in action first hand so I can't tell you how it compares to a good 120Hz zero dropped frames + strobe experience.

Good point. It's also why many movies are shot at 24FPS and it looks just fine to most people.

Saw Project Almanac yesterday at the cinema which unapolagetically showed up the serious limitations of 24fps frame doubled to 48fps for display. There were a lot of sudden movements and camera shake in the film due to the first person "amateur" filming style which revealed this so startlingly.

Basically, judder/strobing was extremely evident, seriously reducing clarity for fast movement making the picture look a mess, which reduced the enjoyment of the movie for me a little bit. Many movies are shot to minimise the impact of this judder, but I'm glad this movie didn't as it makes a very good case for high frame rate cinema.

Good film btw.

Be sure to look at this great website that's all about blur elimination: www.blurbusters.com

EDIT

Your monitor supports LightBoost, but NVIDIA doesn't allow you to enable it in 2D mode which is critical for that super-smoothness I was talking about.

Free utility Strobelight Beta below does a little hack to get around this and is invaluable. Note that some other monitor brands eg BenQ make a generic strobing backlight that isn't tied to NVIDIA and therefore don't have this restriction.

www.blurbusters.com/easy-lightboost-toastyx-strobelight

 

[Dent1]

Thank you RCoon ! Now i understand because the fps fluctuate up and down while on youtube are constantly fixed.

And when we have a hardware that holds constant FPS or what we have to wait to be implemented?

Will it ever be possible in the games?

The frame rate has to fluctuate. Imagine you are playing a strategy game. You build 1 unit and the frame rate is 60 FPS. Now you build 1,000 units, The game has to render more units so obviously its more stressful on the GPU to render 1,000 units than 1 unit so the frame rate will decrease.

Also videos are different. When you encode video its capped at a fixed number usually between 15-25FPS. The frame rate is lower on YouTube but its consistent so it looks smoother.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

With Vsync, anytime you drop below 60 FPS, you can get stutter. Gsync does not work the same, but it DOES have a subtle flicker, which in itself can be noticeable, and to some more than others.

I'm anxious to see how Freesync compares, because big display manufacturers like LG are already showing some high end displays that are compatible with it, including a 34" 21:9 IPS monitor.

LG 34UM67

• 34-inch 21:9 Full HD IPS Display (256x1080)
• Fluid Motion & Smooth Gameplay by Freesync
• Input Lag: 9.5ms (DAS Mode on)
• Dynamic Action Sync Mode (DAS Mode) for real-time action
• Black Stabilizer for enhanced visibility