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Discussion in 'System Builder's Advice' started by Mr.Alaska, Dec 10, 2011.

  1. Mr.Alaska New Member

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    So you all seam a lot more friendly then the last site I tried to get help from so I think I'll try my luck with you guys. The last site kinda rubbed me the wrong way when I told them my preferred brand for motherboards is ASUS and the only guy that replied tried to sell me on a ASRock. While I have no doubts thats It's a decent board I am a firm believer in you get what you pay for. Anyway pretty much all the computers I have owned have been hand-me-downs of some kind. Right now I'm using my brothers old macbook so I thinks its time to get a proper gaming PC.

    My original budget was about $1500 but I don't want to cut corners and that motherboard kinda broke the budget so now it's $2000 and I can work with the price a little but this is going to be a basic build for now and I will add a lot more in the months to come. I am aiming to build a gaming PC that will last as long a possible without having to rebuild the whole thing and just add parts as I go. With my limited knowledge about real computers something tells me I will need a high end motherboard for this.

    On the case I am not looking for anything fancy with flashy lights. Cooling is top priority with noise and wire management a close second. I originally was going to get a cooler master HAF 912 but I think It's to small for the board. I will get a ODD in a few months but for now I want the speed of a SSD. While I know nothing about over clocking reading about it has gotten me really interested and I know it will probably lead to playing with just about everything the motherboard can do.

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    Motherboard: Z68? Open to suggestions.

    CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Tu... Intel Core i7-2600K - $279.99
    I have read that the I5 2500k is the best for the money so I might go with that. But won't games in the future use Hyper Threading? Maybe in 2012 if we survive the end of the world? If not I will go with I5 2500k.

    CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO - 33.99

    Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $29.99

    SSD: Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III - $209.99

    GPU: MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr III - $369.99

    PSU: CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 - $189.99

    DVD Burner: ASUS 24X DVD Burner - $21.99

    Total: $1,167.93
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  2. Live OR Die

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    :twitch: The Rampage IV Extreme is LGA 2011 when the CPU you have pick isn't its LGA 1155 if your getting LGA 2011 you will need a 3930k CPU.

    Sandy Bridge LGA 1155
    Sandy Bridge-E LGA 2011
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    I failed here. I went to hit preview and hit submit on accident but to be honest i didn't even notice that before. Time to update!


    You sir have just crushed my dreams on that board unless I get some extra Christmas money from Santa this year. Thank you for pointing that out and I am now open to all suggestion on a motherboard. probably a Z68 is it?

    Although when I have my mind set on something I usually get it bit the $600 price tag on the I7 3930K might be a little steep for me. Its over $500 if I go with a Z68 board and a I5 2500K
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    Yep how about this board ;)
    Maximus_IV_Extreme
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    Ok hopefully I am done with the edit button. :banghead:

    The sexiness of the red in black instantly sold me on the RAMPAGE IV. :respect: I will look more into this it now.


    So am I wrong to assume that games will use hyper threading in the near future? I have looked but can't find a real answer.
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    ^id take that 580 over the 570 anyday, nice job on putting that money somewhere else thumbs up
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    Accidentally deleted and can't get it back. Something about liking the case I think...
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    Go with the SSD I listed, which is the 256GB M4. The one you posted is just half its capacity. This way you'd have a lot of space while you wait for the HDD prices to normalize. Then you can get 2TB drives for cheap again.
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    I was going to wait till after I get some Christmas money but looking at everything in the Newegg cart is tempting. Is there any brands you guys would recommend over what I picked out other then that PSU entropy suggested? And that Maximus IV Extreme-Z doesn't support the new LGA 2011 socket type so does that mean it will be outdated in like a year or two if I try to upgrade the CPU?
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    The Maximus IV will not be outdated because:

    1: It is for the LGA 1155 socket which supports Sandy Bridge and the to be released Ivy Bridge as well.
    2: LGA 2011 Sandy Bridge-E does not have a consistently significant gaming performance improvement over LGA 1155 Sandy Bridge.

    I also would not recommend anything other than a Corsair PSU.
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    Is it because there is no real advantage for gaming with Sandy Bridge-E or are games just have not written to fully take advantage of it yet?
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    Using this page, I would rank them thusly:

    1. Corsair AX 850 and Seasonic X-850 (arguably the best, but expensive)
    2. OCZ ZX 850
    3. Kingwin Lazer Gold 850W and NZXT HALE90 850W
    4. Antec High Current Pro 850W
    5. Silverstone Strider Gold 850W and Thortech Thunderbolt 850W
    6. Sparkle GOLD CLASS 850W (identical to the ZX 850, but the Sparkle one is more expensive right now, thus the lower rank)


    No significant advantage. Even if the case was that "games just have not written to fully take advantage of it yet", the price difference is still quite huge, that it's still hard to really justify getting a 3930K over a 2600k/2500k.
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    Sorry I didn't mean about the PSU specifically but overall with everything I picked out. That Corsair AX 850 is the one I was originally looking at but I don't see a multi-GPU option in the description.
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    Of course you wouldn't. It would be pointless. So long as there are enough wattage, and enough amperes delivered for each card in a multi-card setup, then it's all good. They don't have to be explicit about it. Let the box of the PSUs themselves handle all that slightly useful information.
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    Ah ok thanks for clearing that up. I thought it was odd that a high end PSU didnt support multiple GPU's. Thanks for all the help and I will post back when I'm a little closer to buying if anything changes.
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    An 850W PSU is enough for 2x GTX 580, i7 2600k @ 4.6GHz, 4 HDDs, 1 SSD, 6 120mm LED fans, 4 sticks of DDR3 RAM.

    Well you can go for it still since the price difference isn't much. But the "performance" also degrades a bit.
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    Is that including OC GPU's as well? I have been reading a lot of mixed thoughts on it.
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    If things are going to get overclocked, there's no way I would purchase an 850w PSU for that system. Something larger for sure.
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    I don't think it's the right time to spend 500$ on a GPU right now. In one month we'll see the new Radeons. If the top dog will be priced at 500$ it should outperfom by a fair margin the 580 in which case NV should drop the prices. So either way you'll win in near future.
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    Thaaaaaaat is going to be a few years.
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    I'm not planing to do this till the beginning of January anyway I am just getting everything ready for when the time comes. So if prices come down its even better for me.

    I know but I would like to avoid buying thins twice if I could to save money in the future. I want to keep games running at max settings so theres no point on getting a 850w power supply if I have to buy another one at the end of next year.
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    Corsair PSUs are nearly silent, and I haven't had a single problem with mine. and since the 1000w is only 10 bucks more I would get it.
    Gskill RAM is excellent;
    ASUS is generally awesome.


    I have no personal experience with Intel or Nvidia; but the 7000 series ATI cards are coming out in a couple months, so since you're going to wait till january anyway, I would keep those in mind.

    Corsair obsidians are very nice user friendly cases. I have a Cooler Master 922, But I would get a Cooler Master HAF 932 or maybe HAF X if I was gonna do it again.

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    That's why I'm here. ;):toast:

    Edit: I mean, I'm Not just here to be friendly; I'm here because these guys were friendly when I was feeling newbish.
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