Generic Thermal paste VS Other Non-Generic Brands

[Wile E]

Hmm....why is the AS5 performing the same as the crappy generic POS?

The better compounds usually only lower temps by a few degrees at first. After a couple of a days to cure, they start to perform much better.

 

[Scavar]

The better compounds usually only lower temps by a few degrees at first. After a couple of a days to cure, they start to perform much better.

I believe for AS5 it is 200hours with 5 thermal cycles.(Turning the OC off and letting it cool down completely to room temperture.)

You'll get this after two or so weeks if you leave your PC on during the day and turn it off at night, or vice versa. Or just leave it on for a few days, and turn it off, and repeat the cycle. It could add anywhere between 2c to 5c off what it already took off.

Thats if I remember what I read on the AS site right.

 

[ny_driver]

I just got tube of AS5 I am going to reseat and leave my pc on all weekend which I never do.

 

[Mediocre]

Application is EVERYTHING.

Personally I hate the 'put a grain size in the middle and squish it'.

Hope you're all spreading a SUPER thin (nearly transparent) layer.

Even the factory Intel sinks come with too much paste. Copper conducts better than that paste. The paste's true function is to fill the AIR gaps between the metal (heat) conductors - CPU and HSF.

Thought I saw a guide on here somewhere...

 

[tkpenalty]

Application is EVERYTHING.

Personally I hate the 'put a grain size in the middle and squish it'.

Hope you're all spreading a SUPER thin (nearly transparent) layer.

Even the factory Intel sinks come with too much paste. Copper conducts better than that paste. The paste's true function is to fill the AIR gaps between the metal (heat) conductors - CPU and HSF.

Thought I saw a guide on here somewhere...

It is one of the best methods anyway since it spreads all over the IHS. Spreading it evenly all over so that you can see it is okay but won't give you better performance after the burn-in period.

AS5's method on dual core IMHO is making you spread far too much thermal paste (so you can buy more of their tubes LOL).

 

[Mediocre]

Grain of sand puts too thick of a layer to completely cover the cpu.

Also, correctly applied, I've never seen it 'completely' cover a 'modern' cpu...in my experience.
Factory applied it usually misses ALL 4 corners. If you use enough to 'squish' it out over the 4 corners...you've used too much.

I usually use ~2 grains of sand sized drops, but when they are spread with a STRAIGHT edge, MOST of it ends up on the straight edge. Its an even, see-through light grey layer of AS5...too much and you loose anywhere around ~3C

 

[Mediocre]

We've had sort of a recall at work b/c we put a Celeron 2.66GHz (533MHz bus) into a tiny box with 1 fan....O and we had the factory put 1U coolers on them.

There was a huge difference in temp caused by the procedure used in the thermal paste application...

In the right situation, its worth applying it right..in most it doesn't matter.

 

[Lazzer408]

As an expierment when I was installing my e6600, I had everything stock. it was like 70c. Then I changed to AS5, it went down to like 60C, changed the heatsink to AC FreezerPro7, went to like 45C, changed to AS5, down to 36-40C.

I'm confused. How did you switch to AS5 twice? Did you try the AC FreezerPro 7 with regular paste first (45c) -then- AS5 (36-40c)?

 

[ny_driver]

I used a drop of AS-5 in the middle(you know a little bit out each side, but not the corners) and had 49c max temperature while I was racing/testing. No better than the radioshack stuff so I removed the Arctic Cooler, popped the chip out cleaned and all the paste off of it with a paper towel. I then scraped all but a thin layer off of the HS with a plastic card and put it back together. After testing for 20 minutes or so I stopped to check the temperatures and to my surprise I found a max temperature of 43c then I tested again with the same results.

Sounds like 6c improvement. I believe the air was actually colder earlier today also. I'm impressed.

 

[JerryClitnon]

So guys, here I am again to ask about this tube of generic thermal paste from balance stars. So far it has impressed me by lowering the temps on my P4SBeholder+, when compared to stock thermal crap. Here are the specs of it:



Tell me how well it will compare with these products:

-Arctic Silver Ceramique
-Arctic Silver 5
-Stock Zalman Thermal Paste.

Btw, something else, is it normal to have temps of 40*C when Idle for a C2D? I find it sort of odd that its so called "Low wattage" produces that much heat. Im using a CNPS7700 CU so how would the temps compare to you guys?

So I have been reviewing generic compound pastes vs. regular compound pastes Ill give you some advice.

1. HY510-TU20(grey compound paste) was descent spread, temperatures were better than arctic silver 5, by like 6*c
   
2. White silicone thermal paste Chinese sheet(was crap just terrible) was afraid to run the furmark test on my GPU, was afraid for my CPU so I didnt apply it.
3. GD900 diluted looking sheet was 5*c below thermaltake CPU
   
4. Mystery grey paste
   Paste Color:Gray
   
   Net Weight:1g/pc paste was runny didnt spread heat that good.
   
   Gross Weight:3g/pc
   
   Operation Temperature: -50/180°c
   
   Thermal Conductivity:>1.22W/m.k
   
   Thermal Rcsistance:<0.201°c-in2/w
   
   Evaporation: <0.001%
   Bleed: <0.05%
5. Some things to consider when applying paste never mentioned for some fcking reason, the type of heatsink and processor its applied to, for instance mine was tested on a I7, and AMD FX 8300.
6. The heatsink does make a difference, for instance copper distribution(pipping in some cases to base), then I apply at more then one way for most accurate results. Best method that works for me is a equal distribution of the pea size method tweeked.

 

[micropage7]

i use small dabs method with generic paste
since its a generic paste and i know the thicker paste would give bad effect (especially on generic paste)
i use small dabs method to get the paste as thin as possible

 

[Aquinus]

Hmm....why is the AS5 performing the same as the crappy generic POS?

AS5 needs to cure before temps go down. It will most likely take you about a week unless you're constantly stress testing it.

I used a drop of AS-5 in the middle(you know a little bit out each side, but not the corners) and had 49c max temperature while I was racing/testing. No better than the radioshack stuff so I removed the Arctic Cooler, popped the chip out cleaned and all the paste off of it with a paper towel.

You also didn't wait long enough for the AS5 to cure. My GPU temps easily dropped 10*C after the AS5 cured. You people are incredibly impatient...

I believe for AS5 it is 200hours with 5 thermal cycles.(Turning the OC off and letting it cool down completely to room temperture.)

You'll get this after two or so weeks if you leave your PC on during the day and turn it off at night, or vice versa. Or just leave it on for a few days, and turn it off, and repeat the cycle. It could add anywhere between 2c to 5c off what it already took off.

Thats if I remember what I read on the AS site right.

Every thermal cycle you'll notice temp drops for the first 3-4 cycles, at least that was the case with my 6870s. Initially after applying it the GPU could barely stay under 80*C at stock under full load, the attempt after it went down to 72, then 65, eventually I was able to run my 1Ghz overclock @ 1.3v on my GPU without breaking 85*C

People simply need to be patient. This whole instant gratification thing doesn't work well with AS5.

 

[RCoon]

AS5 needs to cure before temps go down. It will most likely take you about a week unless you're constantly stress testing it.

You also didn't wait long enough for the AS5 to cure. My GPU temps easily dropped 10*C after the AS5 cured. You people are incredibly impatient...

Every thermal cycle you'll notice temp drops for the first 3-4 cycles, at least that was the case with my 6870s. Initially after applying it the GPU could barely stay under 80*C at stock under full load, the attempt after it went down to 72, then 65, eventually I was able to run my 1Ghz overclock @ 1.3v on my GPU without breaking 85*C

People simply need to be patient. This whole instant gratification thing doesn't work well with AS5.

Those people posted this in 2007. Don't expect a reply from most of them Although this thread still looks useful for all.

 

[Aquinus]

Those people posted this in 2007. Don't expect a reply from most of them Although this thread still looks useful for all.

Gah, fricken thread necros.

I think I need to stop posting before I drink my coffee.