Going to buy (assemble) a new PC, need help

[himendra]

woooo man these sellers, and he was trying to assure me that the ventilation will be good, okk so thats cancelled now, thanks

 

[st2000]

just search for pc with i5 ivy/haswell/haswell refresh(i5-3xxx, i5-4xxx) + 2x4gb ram + 270x/gtx960 + mobo LGA1150
this is "at least configuration" to be ready for new games at med/high settings for 1080p
as for encoding - i5 is worser than i7 but as you said gaming will be at 1st place so no need to overpay
if you can assemble itself(it's not so hard - there are lots of youtube videos "how to") buy separate parts from different stores so it can save a bit more money
PS psu should at least have bronze certificate

 

[BiggieShady]

woooo man these sellers, and he was trying to assure me that the ventilation will be good, okk so thats cancelled now, thanks

The question is what to choose:
1) high pitched noisy little fans that kick in as soon as you open the browser and while you're gaming around 20 fps they make you deaf
2) low hum of the u.s.s. enterprise even when you game at constant 60 fps

In my opinion, when mobility really is a factor, it's almost never for gaming, rather it's for productivity, and that takes different kind of machine that really can't game at all.

 

[yotano211]

low clocked cpus, low res screens, tn screens, single chanal ram, mid range vga but vram is ddr3 not ddr5
only good thing is amount ram

I dont know what you are talking about but there is laptops out there that can keep up with any medium to high end desktop. My main laptop, not work laptop, can keep up with any desktop out there within the same generation, the specs are in the "system specs" tab. I got it used about 1 year ago for $1600. I wait until I spot a great deal and go for it.

Most monitors out there are TN type screens. My laptop has the better TN type screen, but most laptop screens are garage. You can complain to laptop manufacturers about that. The graphics card on my laptop has 4gb of gddr 5 memory and it runs the 1080 screen just fine. I had my 1st 1080 screen laptop about 5 years ago.

People just have to search wider for a laptop that suits their needs.

 

[RCoon]

I dont know what you are talking about but there is laptops out there that can keep up with any medium to high end desktop. My main laptop, not work laptop, can keep up with any desktop out there within the same generation, the specs are in the "system specs" tab. I got it used about 1 year ago for $1600. I wait until I spot a great deal and go for it.

Most monitors out there are TN type screens. My laptop has the better TN type screen, but most laptop screens are garage. You can complain to laptop manufacturers about that. The graphics card on my laptop has 4gb of gddr 5 memory and it runs the 1080 screen just fine. I had my 1st 1080 screen laptop about 5 years ago.

People just have to search wider for a laptop that suits their needs.

And that costs 3 times the amount the OP is willing to spend on his machine. The issue with gaming laptops, is in order to get the performance of a desktop, you have to spend a ludicrous amount more. Unless the OP's main requirement is gaming on a train all day, there is no universe when a laptop is more ideal for gaming than a desktop in terms of price or performance.

 

[yotano211]

And that costs 3 times the amount the OP is willing to spend on his machine. The issue with gaming laptops, is in order to get the performance of a desktop, you have to spend a ludicrous amount more. Unless the OP's main requirement is gaming on a train all day, there is no universe when a laptop is more ideal for gaming than a desktop in terms of price or performance.

I know what you are talking about, it really depends on one's personal budget. But there is still deals out there or a new or used laptops. Just need to find them depending on one's country.

Desktop vs laptop debates have been going on for years and will never stop. I just hope the OP will find something that will make him/her happy.

 

[himendra]

ya in india its really not that easy, and above all im not a tech guy so i cant find out if someone's giving me a good deal on a machine even if its in front of me , thats why a used machine is out of question for me alas,

 

[yotano211]

ya in india its really not that easy, and above all im not a tech guy so i cant find out if someone's giving me a good deal on a machine even if its in front of me , thats why a used machine is out of question for me alas,

DOnt worry, we all learn the hard way. I just learned the other day which cables it takes to do a Raid 0 on a desktop, only took me 5 hours. The cables where in the wrong place on the motherboard.

 

[ne6togadno]

add those in one of these ↓
http://www.overclockerszone.com/bitfenix-phenom-micro-atx-black-computer-chasis/
http://www.overclockerszone.com/bitfenix-prodigy-m-black-computer-chasis/
and you will have portable pc that can be easily moved around. you will need monitor avilable at places you go thou

 

[himendra]

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add those in one of these ↓
http://www.overclockerszone.com/bitfenix-phenom-micro-atx-black-computer-chasis/
http://www.overclockerszone.com/bitfenix-prodigy-m-black-computer-chasis/
and you will have portable pc that can be easily moved around. you will need monitor avilable at places you go thou

Wooooo, this is great ne6togadno, can i use an i5 4440 processor with this build instead of an i3 ??? how powerful will this be? will it run new games good??? man im calculating to buy this thing now, but theres a problem, i dont have a credit card, damn..... i can only pay cash on delivery, will check on some websites

thanks a bunch

 

[himendra]

in the above build will this hard disk do well ??? its WD caviar blue 1 tb

• 3.5 inch Form Factor
• SATA 6.0Gbps Interface
• 64 MB Cache Memory
• 1 TB HDD

these are its details

 

[ne6togadno]

Wooooo, this is great ne6togadno, can i use an i5 4440 processor with this build instead of an i3 ??? how powerful will this be? will it run new games good??? man im calculating to buy this thing now, but theres a problem, i dont have a credit card, damn..... i can only pay cash on delivery, will check on some websites

thanks a bunch

sure if you can fit it in your budget you can use even i7. i've tried to be as close to 50k as possible that is why i picked i3

in the above build will this hard disk do well ??? its WD caviar blue 1 tb

• 3.5 inch Form Factor
• SATA 6.0Gbps Interface
• 64 MB Cache Memory
• 1 TB HDD

these are its details

it doesnt matter if it is seagate, hitachi, wd or toshiba they are all the same quality lvl so pick whatever is cheapest

 

[himendra]

guys one more thing, what do u suggest an AMD processor or an intel i5 4440,

websites giving amd processors a better score for performance and value for money

how will AMD FX 8350 black edition do in this build,

please comment

 

[ne6togadno]

get 4440. for amd you will need cpu cooler and more powerful (with higher price) psu

 

[himendra]

get 4440. for amd you will need cpu cooler and more powerful (with higher price) psu

how costly will it be? my budget has gone higher upto 58000rs. is this AMD FX 8350 really so awesome?

...and one more doubt, a slightly lower model amd processor wont equal the i5 4440 in overall performance??

 

[ne6togadno]

first problem is that there isnt mitx boards with AM3+ socet u have to use matx, not every after market air cooler can fit in prodigy and phenom so you have to go with aio (wich is heavier)
amd cpus has lower per core performance (much lower then intel's) but have more cores. fx are good for multitasking (gaming+streaming, tons of tabs in browser etc.) for games you want to play 8350 will be more then enough but it will run hotter. it is already ageing and it is dead end for upgrades in future (not that 1150 wont be soon dead end too but it will last longer then am3+)
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4440+@+3.10GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2017&cmp[]=1780

edit:
you got lucky. case can fit 212 but still you need to rize it to 60k if you want fx 8320 (~63k for 8350).

 

[himendra]

ohkkkkkk so ill get the i5 only thanks, im gonna do the maths now and will post the final build here,

can u guess how good this pc will run gta 5????

 

[ne6togadno]

should run fine on mid settings

 

[P4-630]

ohkkkkkk so ill get the i5 only thanks, im gonna do the maths now and will post the final build here,

can u guess how good this pc will run gta 5????

I think you can run it at high/very-high

 

[himendra]

ohhh mann thats great then, so ill email the config u sent me to dealers here and match the prices right now,

 

[ne6togadno]

I think you can run it at high/very-high

with r9 280? are you sure?

 

[himendra]

sorry i didnt get you?? r9 280??? oh oops i goofed,

 

[P4-630]

with r9 280? are you sure?

Even I can run it at high/very high with my GTX770M, using FXAA instead of MSAA

GTA V recommended specs are GTX660 which scores 4117 in G3D mark http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+660
A r9 280 scores 4707 http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+7950+/+R9+280

Mine scores: 2708 http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+770M

If I not cap the fps with GTA V I get 40~60 fps with adaptive vsync on

 

[himendra]

first problem is that there isnt mitx boards with AM3+ socet u have to use matx, not every after market air cooler can fit in prodigy and phenom so you have to go with aio (wich is heavier)
amd cpus has lower per core performance (much lower then intel's) but have more cores. fx are good for multitasking (gaming+streaming, tons of tabs in browser etc.) for games you want to play 8350 will be more then enough but it will run hotter. it is already ageing and it is dead end for upgrades in future (not that 1150 wont be soon dead end too but it will last longer then am3+)
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4440+@+3.10GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2017&cmp[]=1780

edit:
you got lucky. case can fit 212 but still you need to rize it to 60k if you want fx 8320 (~63k for 8350).
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i just saw this edited list now, ok so the amd fx 8320 will be better than i5 4440 and will fit properly in the build that u have suggested with the bitfenix cabinet, okkk cool then,

one more thing, the motherboard in this build does have an onboard lan card with it right??? i mean i wont have to purchase a lan card separately? as soon as i get these part we have to start gaming on lan, so i ask

 

[himendra]

hey ne6togandno, how will a 'coolermaster thunder 500watts psu' do?? the problem is that in india on flipkart i can see the customer reviews are realllly bad, and you can see clearly the fake ones are just one liners, so im really scared of buying it from them, if i can get a good psu from a local dealer at least i can eat his brains out for a refund, corsair isnt available here locally, please suggest