GT 730 FPS issue (underperforming)

[Matta114]

Hello all,

I bought a new NVIDIA GT 730 and am actively playing Black Desert Online. I have been getting really bad FPS, anywhere from 10-15 FPS on medium graphics to 30ish FPS on the lowest setting (which looks horrible).

My friend is running a GTX 500 series card and running 40-50+ FPS on medium, so I know something must be wrong.

I did the clean graphics driver install (using wagnard tools) and tried many different suggested NVIDIA control panel settings, including turning off Vsync, etc.

See attached for my graphics card specs. Anyone have any idea what the issue could be?

Thanks in advance!

 

[NC37]

Nothing wrong, that's just a terrible card. It can play games from a decade ago decently but anything new forget it. Your friend with a 500 series most likely has either a mid or high end card.

Newer model number doesn't mean better with GPUs. There are a lot of factors to take into account, as well as reviews to browse. Going out and simply buying a card on a whim and not having done any research on the card is about the worst thing you can possibly do.

Recommend you get a refund on that and put the money towards something better. Most cards in the $200-$300 price range tend to be good. Just research before you buy. If you can't afford that, then look into the 960s. It still won't be great but it should work much better than a 730.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

GT 730 is pretty much ment for just youtube.

Put it into perspective 3Dmark gives the GT 730 a GPU score of 1510.

3Dmark Score
GT 730: 1510
GTX 750 Ti: 5600
GTX 550Ti: 2400
GTX 560: 4000

If your friend is using a mid range 500 series card its double the performance or more vs what you have. That simple.

You basically bought a GPU thats equivalent to Integrated graphics performance

The 6 year old Radeon HD 5850 = 3700 in 3Dmark

Always do research before you buy.

For Nvidia.

GPU Family = first number
Performance = second number
Third number = version

Below examples are not up to date but give an idea of what the naming schemes mean and what segment they target.

Nvidia Example

GTX 230 = Entry
GTX 250 = Entry level gaming
GTX 260 = Mid range gaming
GTX 270 = High end gaming
GTX 280 = Enthusiast.

GT 730 = entry
GTX 750= entry level
GTX 760 = mid range
GTX 770 = high end
GTX 780 = enthusiast.

AMD Example

HD5450 = entry
HD5650 = entry level gaming
HD5750 = mid range
HD5850 = high end
HD5870 = enthusiast

R7 250 = entry
R7 265 = entry level gaming
R9 280 = mid range
R9 290= high end
R9 290x =Enthusiast.

you might see other various versions aka
GTX 750
GTX 750Ti
GTX 780
GTX 780 Ti

Fury
Fury X
R9 390x
R9 280x

Then of course their are rebrands. aka HD 7870 > R9 270 etc etc. GTX 680 to GTX 770 so on and etc.

so always do your research.

 

[Estaric]

Sorry to say but its not under performing, GT's are not ment to game no matter how much nvidia says they can do entry level, entry level for them seems like they want you playing on the absolutely lowest resolution to get acceptable frame rate. i reccomend 750 ti or 950

 

[hat]

Yeah, GT730 is by no means a gaming card, unless you're playing games from ages past. It's basically a card I would chuck in a PC if it had no onboard graphics just to get a display. Your friend who is outperforming you probably has a GTX560 or something, which is a much better performing card. In order to gain any sort of gaming performance, I recommend at least a GTX950, or a GTX960 if you can. If that's not an option, you can look around for a second hand GTX760, or maybe a GTX660 Ti.

 

[silentbogo]

What many of you, guys, missed is system requirements. This game needs a minimum of GT610, or GTS250 for 720p.
GT730 is a decent card for 720p/900p gaming on the budget, and is by no means a "youtube-only" adapter. Only 5-6 years ago many of you were sporting VGAs like GTX260 and GTX275, which by comparison were not much faster and were considered gaming cards. GT730 is capable of running Dota 2 and CS:GO on High @1080p, which is more than enough for most people. At 720p or 900p you could probably make it run newer titles, like Alien: Isolation or Wolfenstein:TNO.

To OP: Full system spec would be nice.

But anyway, according to recommended specs this game requires:
- Intel Core i5-650 3.2GHz
- 6gb RAM
- GTX 650 / GTX 550ti / Radeon HD7770 / Radeon HD 6770
- 1280x720 Resolution

Which means that if GTX550Ti is meant to put out 60FPS on High settings @720p, then your GT730 can do at most 30FPS on the same resolution.
If you have a fullHD display and you run the game at native resolution, then your framerate will drop to 10-15 that you are observing now, regardless of how powerful the rest of your system is.

My polite advice: run it at 720p medium detail and you should be able to maintain steady 35-40FPS.
My honest advice: stop playing horrible cookie-cutter RPGs. Play Aion, Guild Wars or something along these lines (if servers are still alive).

 

[Devon68]

I'm sorry but you cant compare a GT730 to a gtx 500 series card
The GT730 is newer but not stronger.
Try adjusting your settings to find the best performance.Try everything on the lowest and off and slowly increase/turn on things until your happy.

 

[neatfeatguy]

What many of you, guys, missed is system requirements. This game needs a minimum of GT610, or GTS250 for 720p.
GT730 is a decent card for 720p/900p gaming on the budget, and is by no means a "youtube-only" adapter. Only 5-6 years ago many of you were sporting VGAs like GTX260 and GTX275, which by comparison were not much faster and were considered gaming cards. GT730 is capable of running Dota 2 and CS:GO on High @1080p, which is more than enough for most people. At 720p or 900p you could probably make it run newer titles, like Alien: Isolation or Wolfenstein:TNO.

To OP: Full system spec would be nice.

But anyway, according to recommended specs this game requires:
- Intel Core i5-650 3.2GHz
- 6gb RAM
- GTX 650 / GTX 550ti / Radeon HD7770 / Radeon HD 6770
- 1280x720 Resolution

Which means that if GTX550Ti is meant to put out 60FPS on High settings @720p, then your GT730 can do at most 30FPS on the same resolution.
If you have a fullHD display and you run the game at native resolution, then your framerate will drop to 10-15 that you are observing now, regardless of how powerful the rest of your system is.

My polite advice: run it at 720p medium detail and you should be able to maintain steady 35-40FPS.
My honest advice: stop playing horrible cookie-cutter RPGs. Play Aion, Guild Wars or something along these lines (if servers are still alive).

There are several models of the GT 730 as well.

I forget the exact specs between them, but they break down to this:

Low end GT 730 - about as good as a 9600 GT
Faster GT 730 - about as good as a 8800 GT/9800 GT (10-15% faster than the 9600 GT)

I used to run GTX 280 - it absolutely slaughters what a GT 730 can do. The GTX 275 was around the same performance as the GTX 280 and the GTX 260 was only about 15-20% behind those.

I also ran two 8800GTS 512MB cards in SLI - two of these run about on par with a single GTX 280. The 8800 GTS 512MB was about 10-15% faster than a 8800 GT. Also, the GTS 250, just pretty much a re-branded 8800 GTS 512. The GT 730 is better than a GT 610.

That means the GT 730 is a minimum requirement card and you'll have to run the game at low settings. The OP is hindered by the GPU.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

Minimal you should of gone is a GTX750 which is quite the same as the GTX 560 anything else would be a waste of money

 

[OneMoar]

its a GT730 you [lovely friend], its [sadly not very good] of course its gonna perform like [a wet sock]


-Edited for niceness. be nice.

 

[Mussels]

as others have said, the GT730 is a budget card. It's simply not very good.


I have done a few minor edits to the thread i doubt anyone will notice, be polite. He simply made a mistake thinking a newer card would be faster.

 

[Frick]

There are several models of the GT 730 as well.

I forget the exact specs between them, but they break down to this:

Low end GT 730 - about as good as a 9600 GT
Faster GT 730 - about as good as a 8800 GT/9800 GT (10-15% faster than the 9600 GT)

There are three models and the fastest (with GDDR5) is definitely faster than a 8800GT. If the game is less demanding than WoW I'd say something's wrong because I've played WoW quite a bit with the DDR3 version of it.

 

[silentbogo]

@neatfeatguy to make it even more confusing, there were 3 variations:
1) Fermi-based card with 96 cores and 128-bit DDR3 (had that one and it sucks)
2) Kepler-based with 384 CUDA cores and 64-bit DDR3 (better, but limited mem bandwidth kills gaming performance).
3) Kepler-based with 384 cores and 64-bit GDDR5 (best budget card ever with 28W max TDP).

All three are still on the market, so an average Joe has to look carefully at what's in the box (the difference between *1 and *3 is tremendous).
I still have a Gainward GTX260 laying around (occasionally used as a space heater), but a 15-20% advantage over GT730 just does not make it a viable option any more.

In 3DMark'06 my old rig with Core2Duo E8400 and GTX260 was getting a bit less than ~16K marks. Same rig with stock GT730 (GK208, 2GB GDDR5) was pushing ~13.5K : 15% advantage. In games the difference is even less noticeable.

Basically, what I'm trying to say, is that the newer GT730 is still a very capable card, but you've got to be realistic about it's limitations.

EDIT: @Frick beat me by 0.5s

 

[qubit]

as others have said, the GT730 is a budget card. It's simply not very good.


I have done a few minor edits to the thread i doubt anyone will notice, be polite. He simply made a mistake thinking a newer card would be faster.

Agreed. No one should be put down for being a noob at somethhing. We were all there once; no one is born an expert.

@Matta114 I hope you get a decent card soon. It will make a world of difference.

 

[64K]

Yeah, that's not really good for gaming. With Nvidia don't go by the first number of the card. The second number gives you an idea of it's performance. If you are able to return it and want to get something better for gaming then post your choices here and people can help you decide if it's good or not.

 

[Slizzo]

@neatfeatguy to make it even more confusing, there were 3 variations:
1) Fermi-based card with 96 cores and 128-bit DDR3 (had that one and it sucks)
2) Kepler-based with 384 CUDA cores and 64-bit DDR3 (better, but limited mem bandwidth kills gaming performance).
3) Kepler-based with 384 cores and 64-bit GDDR5 (best budget card ever with 28W max TDP).

All three are still on the market, so an average Joe has to look carefully at what's in the box (the difference between *1 and *3 is tremendous).
I still have a Gainward GTX260 laying around (occasionally used as a space heater), but a 15-20% advantage over GT730 just does not make it a viable option any more.

In 3DMark'06 my old rig with Core2Duo E8400 and GTX260 was getting a bit less than ~16K marks. Same rig with stock GT730 (GK208, 2GB GDDR5) was pushing ~13.5K : 15% advantage. In games the difference is even less noticeable.

Basically, what I'm trying to say, is that the newer GT730 is still a very capable card, but you've got to be realistic about it's limitations.

EDIT: @Frick beat me by 0.5s

Looks like he has #2 in his system. Better in terms of CUDA cores, but DDR3 on 64-bit bus....

 

[Matta114]

thanks for all the help guys. I realized what I did wrong.

However, before I buy a new card, I need to make sure it is compatible with my motherboard:

Gigabyte P35-DS3L

Could anyone recommend a replacement graphics card that will work with this motherboard? Preferably NVIDIA. I am trying to avoid buying a new computer. I put my old Radeon HD 4800 Series card back in for now... sadly it's better than the GT 730 lol.

 

[Mussels]

that board will work fine with any GPU.


It is an older board, what CPU are you running?

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

P35? definitely an old Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad at best. I wouldnt grab anything more powerful that a GTX 950 / 960 as the CPU is already a bottleneckl

 

[OneMoar]

Op I would really consider building a new system while a core2 isn't completely useless its getting on in years and if you wanna keep playing newer games its about time to look at a newer system
you can pickup used i5 towers on ebay for less then 200 bucks and slap a half-way decent gpu in and be good for years

 

[Matta114]

I attached the rest of my specs for those asking.

I think my other friend is going to give me his old GTX 680 - hopefully that will work

Thanks again for all the help!

 

[Devon68]

I think my other friend is going to give me his old GTX 680 - hopefully that will work

Now the 680 will definitely work great.
BTW what power supply do you have?

EDIT:

However, before I buy a new card, I need to make sure it is compatible with my motherboard:

Any motherboard that has a pci-e will work.The only thing that effects what GPU you get is your budget-->your power supply---> space in your case

 

[Matta114]

Now the 680 will definitely work great.
BTW what power supply do you have?

EDIT:
Any motherboard that has a pci-e will work.The only thing that effects what GPU you get is your budget-->your power supply---> space in your case

I couldn't tell what power supply, it's all black with nothing on the exposed side. I'd have to take it out to see the other side. But my Radeon HD 4870 1GB is in there currently and the power supply is connected, if that helps.

 

[arbiter]

If you still think that 730 is under performing, then take gpu z you have there and leave it open on sensor tab and play for a few minutes then jump out to it and look at gpu load if its pegged at 100% whole time then well you will see that its doing best it can't but that is all it can do.

you should be able to drop a 750ti in to replace it depending on what gt730 you have shouldn't be that much of a jump in power draw if you get one that doesn't have 6pin pci-e, maybe ~20watts.

I couldn't tell what power supply, it's all black I'd probably have to take it out to see the other side. But my Radeon HD 4870 1GB is in there currently and the power supply is connected, if that helps.

that is ~150watt gpu so would say can get a gpu in that power draw range and should be fine, gtx960 for example would be under that gtx970 is about same. r7 370 maybe 370x on amd side for around same draw range.

 

[Matta114]

Sorry, the card my friend is giving me is a GTX 660Ti 2G, not a GTX680. Not sure if that is as good? I know a 660 is worse than a 680, but not sure if the Ti part helps lol.