GTX 970 or R9 390 for 1440p ???

[jormungand]

Either get the Sapphire NITRO R9 390 or the MSI R9 390 and be done with it already..

I would personally lean towards the Sapphire because every card I've owned by them have been nothing short of great.

The nitro was my first choice believe me. But it doesn't. FIT!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jormungand]

Well i think im gonna go amd this time. I have till November and will be a great moment to buy something with the blackfriday deals at newegg. Maybe i can save a little who knows, for my monitor and grab a nice one. Msi is the one ill be buying since people here have it and say good things about it, and i watched jayztwocents video and the fact that msi cools the vram directly and the other components convinced me.

 

[jormungand]

Or just maybe see te msi gtx 970 for $300 or less and grab a shotgun and kill the beast. I have a one month window so lets seeeeeeeee . THANKS EVERYONE i hope this helps everyone who was in my same exact position. Gpus wars is gooddddddd low the prices already newegg!!!! Im cominggggg.
Posdata:: any advise on a 1440 monitor or i just have to make another thread????

 

[jormungand]

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=24-236-453
Or this one
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=9SIA24G2U48831
What you think???

 

[jormungand]

well ... no, in all the years i used a AMD GPU i had no driver complain unlike my current period with a Nvidia GPU (980) ahah! (latest AMD GPU was a 290 for me )

tho i would also recommend Nvidia in that instance except that i would recommend a 980 for 1440p, as i use DSR 1323p which is close to 1440p
don't settle for less than 4gb ... ok ... bad joke tho i hope you don't plan to run a 1440p heavily moded full detail Skyrim on a 970
or a 390/390X since both are above (slightly) a 970 and no ... i will not "cost" you a lot on your yearly electricity bill if you go AMD (that's a "half" cliché, it will cost more but it's marginal )

edit: "LOLOL!" ... maybe you should stop DOTA after sleep and start LOL instead (joking joking )

Dota is dota and LOL is LOL never LOL, lol
Ill never be LOL you get it lol.

 

[RCoon]

Dota is dota and LOL is LOL never LOL, lol
Ill never be LOL you get it lol.

Perhaps I should remind you that the forum rules dictate that you use the edit button. No double or triple posting, let alone six posts in a row.

Theres an edit button as well as a multi quote button.

 

[jormungand]

Perhaps I should remind you that the forum rules dictate that you use the edit button. No double or triple posting, let alone six posts in a row.

Theres an edit button as well as a multi quote button.

My apologies sir , just got anxious ill take in mind rules for next time. thanks

 

[Flow]

If drivers matter don't even consider AMD. Their driver support sucks. They only release drivers every 4+ months! And the company is in serious danger of going under, which means no driver support at all.

Let me see, 15.4, 15,5, 15.7 then 15.7.1 and where are we now?
Oh wait, you were joking

Goodluck on your purchase jormungand.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

First I'll say that when I ran a single GTX970, it handled my 1440p screen just fine. I have yet to find a game that wouldn't run smooth on a single GTX970 on it.

Uh, Shadow of Mordor for one. I've seen it cause pretty bad stutter even at 1080p due to the VRAM cap. Granted there aren't a whole lot of games that use THAT much VRAM, but there are a fair number of poorly optimized games still being released, and going forward, I wouldn't feel too good having 3.5GB for 1440p.

At 1440p or higher, the 390 starts showing it's value.

 

[newtekie1]

Uh, Shadow of Mordor for one.

The only game I ever had an issue with was Shadow of Mordor with the Ultra-HD texture pack installed, and that uses a down right stupid amount of VRAM for no noticeable visual benefit. It was mainly just created for the purpose of using stupid amounts of VRAM.

 

[Kanan]

is just a matter of spending money in new tech. for me 250/300 for a 290x right now is like ... why i didnt payed 300/330 for a 390 or the gtx 970 if i had the money. remember i dont take the r9 290x cuz ill not change my card at least for 2 years. and those two are more reliable for the upcoming games/dx12 etc.....

Well, I'd bet before the 4 GB of a 290X starts to be too less for 1440p the card is either broken or too slow. 8 GB is totaly overrated. Basically you fall for their marketing, it's useless now 99% of times and I'm sure will be (with these cards) in future, because they are too weak in the distant future when 8 GB is really needed. So, thats why I said go and buy the 290X. And about 970: the 970 isn't really good for DX12. There are 2 benchmarks and both show that all Maxwell cards besides 980 Ti suck in DX12. And the 970 sucks in some DX11 games too - there are no games where the Hawaii-based Radeon cards suck, other than Project Cars maybe, but I don't care about that game, because they messed it up.

Whatever, if you made your mind up for a 390 I'd go with a MSI or Gigabyte Windforce one. MSI clearly needs some more power and is bigger, because of the higher core frequency. The Gigabyte, Asus, Sapphire etc. models are more balanced and need less power. So, in your position with your limited space I'd take a MSI or GB, the Asus is too expensive, the Sapphire, as you said, too long. Good luck.

 

[GreiverBlade]

High res textures in Skyrim at 5760x1080 ran flawlessly on my 390. Almost never would it fully peg out the GPU or consume more than 2.5-3GB of VRAM. Just saying.

well Skyrim HD text all DLC SMIM + around 200 additional ESM and ESP (text, high poly count poser follower sync animation etc etc etc) + ENB 0.266 (sharpshooter or RealVision depend if i play or do some screens )on DSR 4K or the one between 4K and 1323p is a tad after 3.5 for me ... so a 970 would go south for me ... a 970 is no consideration at and after 1440p it's a 1080p card (tho even there i would get a 980 even if the 980 for me are nearly double the price of a 970 atm)

but ... for me the 970 does not exist (unlike the 470 570 670 and 770 ... where nvidia didn't f***** up the *70 serie ) so the only "real" options in that price range ( or lower ... since retailer tend to think nvidia is gold) are the 390 and eventually the 390X

and no : driver issue are not a issue on my 290 i used the Omega for a long time with zero issues until people started to hiss about "how long did AMD wait until updating drivers "... but, if it ain't broken ... why fix it?

but nvidia? well ... i used the 344.88 for a long time too .... since any 35X.XX were pure s**t, until the 355.98 (oh ok you need 2 number, decimal and unit, to be same and ending in a 8 to be good ? 344.88 355.98 ... ) and that right after i got the 980 ...

so driver issue? nvidia i got them ... AMD not even one (and with latest driver all the time )

edit: call me lucky with AMD but the only GPU line i needed to do a rollback driver was Nvidia .... and not only once ....

 

[jormungand]

For the ones interested like me in the exact measure of the Nitro i found this on a russian video. the measure is in centimeters. i mean 30cm or 305mm

 

[m&m's]

i found this on a russian video

Definitely not russian, 99% sure it's polish.

 

[buildzoid]

Definitely not russian, 99% sure it's polish.

Slavic language? RUSSIAN!

 

[N1GHTRA1N]

I purchased two MSI GTX 970 4G GAMING cards a month ago. I run 2560x1600 and they are awesome. A single card will run 1440p without issues. I did some benchmarking with one card and it was as fast or faster than my Crossfired MSI 6970 Lightning cards. I also overclock to 1300MHz (1515MHz Boost) and 8000MHz memory and they run great, and mostly quiet even at high RPM.

I also do not experience any coil whine like in the video above. I do get a wierd whining sound sometimes on quiet loading screens, but that is coming from my speakers and happened with my previous cards too. I think it is a shielding problem with my sound card.

 

[happita]

What is the biggest size you can fit into your case? I found that these were both under 30cm:

MSI (27.71cm or 277mm)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127874

ASUS (29.97cm or 299mm)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121974

 

[GhostRyder]

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For the ones interested like me in the exact measure of the Nitro i found this on a russian video. the measure is in centimeters. i mean 30cm or 305mm

Then unfortunately it looks like it will not fit since people quote the case can handle up to 11-1/4 inches. Part of the problem is the Nitro cooler sticks out on the end which causes its length to go way up. The MSI cooler is probably going to be your best bet (Since your not sure on XFX).
I will still say if your willing to give it a try go for the XFX. They had one recent generation of problems but after that it has been smooth sailing and this new cooler seems to be top notch from the reviews I have seen of it.

What is the biggest size you can fit into your case? I found that these were both under 30cm:

MSI (27.71cm or 277mm)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127874

ASUS (29.97cm or 299mm)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121974

I believe the Asus to is just slightly a the limit for the op since the case supports up to about 290mm

 

[Aquinus]

What is the biggest size you can fit into your case? I found that these were both under 30cm:

MSI (27.71cm or 277mm)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127874

ASUS (29.97cm or 299mm)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121974

Don't forget to factor in any drives that may be behind the GPU. For me with the MSI card, I have only a tiny bit of room between my RAID-5 drive connectors and my GPU.

 

[jormungand]

This is how i have set mine.

 

[happita]

Then I'd say go with the MSI R9 390. The power connectors go out to the side instead of towards the hard drive cages, giving you enough room for the card to fit comfortably.

 

[rooivalk]

MSI 390 is generally a good overclocker as well (not that 390 is really great in overclocking realm).

 

[Eric_Cartman]

Let me see, 15.4, 15,5, 15.7 then 15.7.1 and where are we now?
Oh wait, you were joking

Goodluck on your purchase jormungand.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/previous?os=windows

According to AMD themselves:

15.7.1 on 7/29/15(Which was just a bug fix for 15.7, the latest an now almost 3 months old)
15.7 on 7/8/15
14.12 on 12/9/14(That's 7 months between drivers!)
14.9 on 9/29/14(That's 3 months between drivers!)
14.4 on 4/15/14(That's 5 months between drivers!)
13.12 on 1/14/14(Thats 3 months between drivers!)

No, I'm not joking.

AMD's track record over the past several years has been terrible.

They might have recently gotten slightly better by unofficially releasing betas, but even those are spread out, and they only did it because tech news sites started reporting how bad their driver support was.

When a new AAA title comes out, nVidia has a game ready driver out the same day, maybe the next day.

Rarely a peep from AMD, your just stuck using the old drivers hoping the game runs smoothly and there aren't any game breaking driver issues.

There is no getting around the fact that AMD has terrible driver support for their cards.

 

[vega22]

It isn't really an issue. Even at 4k the cards work beautifully. The memory thing was blown way out of proportion.

it's not and it will only get worse in the future with dx12, older games unable to use that vram of course are never going to have problems but those days are behind us.

dx12 will require the devs to work around the problem by limiting how much vram is used for what features on some cards, like the 970 which won't be able to use features that it should with a full, single 4gb buffer.

 

[rtwjunkie]

it's not and it will only get worse in the future with dx12, older games unable to use that vram of course are never going to have problems but those days are behind us.

dx12 will require the devs to work around the problem by limiting how much vram is used for what features on some cards, like the 970 which won't be able to use features that it should with a full, single 4gb buffer.

You are forgetting one thing. The price range of the 970 is in the category where MOST (not all, I know) of the buyers are people who replace their card every two years. We're at over a year from release now. By this time next year (2 years after release), I predict we will have only a dozen, no more than a score of DX12 games, with most allowing play at DX11 as well.

By the time there are enough DX12 games for your dire prediction to need to be dealt with, the owners will mostly have upgraded.