Help me build a 400$ gaming PC ...

[xfia]

AMD has no plans to even manufacture anymore fx cpu's after 2015.. they are to power hungry and where a embarrassment from the beginning that the bank account still suffers from today.

 

[Caring1]

AMD has no plans to even manufacture anymore fx cpu's after 2015.....

http://wccftech.com/amd-fx-series-comeback-two-years-apu-14-confrence-roadmaps/

 

[xfia]

and? yeah they got mobile fx and they might reuse the fx name again for the zen platform but am3+ is dead.. the original road map looked great and included down to 14nm cpu's but they ended it. probably just had to scrap the whole thing to get better ipc or forever be 100 percent behind intel.

 

[Dent1]

AMD vs. Intel is kind of a pointless argument when talking about gaming. There are really only two scenarios when you are actually playing games in the real world. Either the game is so light weight that the GPU is under utilized, in which case you are going to be getting 100FPS+ regardless of what CPU you have, even if the CPU is the limit you're getting 100FPS+ so who the F cares OR the GPU is the limit and all that extra horse power from the Intel CPU just goes to waste anyway.

so horribly wrong..

Thanks for that insightful three-worded comment. The way you encapsulated the argument was riveting.

Maybe explaining why newtekie1 is wrong would be a start at obtaining credibility.

 

[Fourstaff]

Please get back on topic. Thanks.

 

[hardcore_gamer]

If
1. it is only for gaming
2. you have a good TV
3. you are not addicted to Mouse+KB

I'd suggest buying a PS4.

 

[xfia]

what do you want me to do? make my own youtube video or copy and paste every benchmark that shows Intel wins in latency, minimums and max most of time.. could just do that on your own.. this was like some nightmare I was stuck in some dark part of the internet where everyone thinks amd makes the best gaming cpu
on topic-I gave the op access to toms article and techs video that says it all so they can be swayed by ignorance or listen to what a few except have to say.

 

[bihboy23]

Get an i3 if you want to upgrade in the future or get AMD if you'll stay with that PC before you get another one in the coming years. At this budget the cpu won't really matter. I have an Athlon x4 750k that works just fine with my 7790. Gaming with any processor should be fine, just think about whether or not you want to upgrade.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

@xfia so so through all this what you are saying is there is no way you can game on any Fx cpu, well sorry but I do and very well. My rig takes any game i throw at it and then some and runs smooth as butter doing it.

Op the absolute decision is yours and there's nothing wrong with using an Fx for your build.

 

[xfia]

everything that I needed to say was in my first post trying to help a gamer out with a better cpu but I got trolled and pulled in so just drop it.. its just starting to make the mods mad anyway.

 

[Tatty_Two]

what do you want me to do? make my own youtube video or copy and paste every benchmark that shows Intel wins in latency, minimums and max most of time.. could just do that on your own.. this was like some nightmare I was stuck in some dark part of the internet where everyone thinks amd makes the best gaming cpu
on topic-I gave the op access to toms article and techs video that says it all so they can be swayed by ignorance or listen to what a few except have to say.

I don't think anyone is actually saying that AMD CPU's are better in performance terms as purely a gaming solution, much of what you have said (earlier) is supported by reviews I have read in the past that generally, in most things gaming on low end i5 for example will give better results, perhaps not exclusively across every game but in general terms yes so in that sense I agree with you, however what I think people are saying is that for a budget gaming rig where $$ are pretty tight an AMD solution is perfectly adequate (considering the gpu the Op will be using) and still performs well and in many cases would save money, the title of the thread pretty much speaks for itself in that regard so we have moved from recommendations on a cheap gaming rig to pretty much an AMD versus Intel performance thread which is never good in this place!

 

[xfia]

I gotcha man.. a 750ti is not picky about the cpu it uses to shine. I guess I come from a place that I got a 6350 thinking it would be awesome.. like hell yeah six cores with a 4.2ghz turbo why would any gamer get a i3. reality is just more complex and it left me needing to switch platforms when I got a 290.
vindictus is not the norm but using my 7850 with my i5 lets me max out with almost no frame dips but with the 6350 it regularly drops down to 30fps.
I could rant on and on about it but really just comes down to I was left feeling a little salty and like to keep fellow gamers off that road.. part of the fun with building a pc is being able to upgrade and customize as much as you want and lga 1150 will hit home for the newbie or enthusiast with or without deep pockets. can even start with a celeron and go all the way to a i7 with the same mobo.

 

[rruff]

gaming on low end i5 for example will give better results, perhaps not exclusively across every game but in general terms yes so in that sense I agree with you, however what I think people are saying is that for a budget gaming rig where $$ are pretty tight an AMD solution is perfectly adequate (considering the gpu the Op will be using) and still performs well and in many cases would save money.

A G3258 will perform better most of the time, except in rare games that are optimized for more than 2 cores. An i3 would solve that issue. If you have your computer on a lot, the idle power consumption alone will more than negate any cost savings the AMD CPU has. I used to be an AMD fan but their lack of investment is showing.

Granted, most of the time it isn't going to matter with a low end GPU like the 750 Ti. For a real gaming machine that would need to be upgraded.

Doesn't everyone want to upgrade eventually though... if they can extend the life of their machine on a budget? If you get a G3258 with a overclockable motherboard and a decent PSU you have a lot of easy upgrade options... pop in a i5K a couple years down the road and a better video card and you are done.

 

[Dent1]

I gotcha man.. a 750ti is not picky about the cpu it uses to shine. I guess I come from a place that I got a 6350 thinking it would be awesome.. like hell yeah six cores with a 4.2ghz turbo why would any gamer get a i3. reality is just more complex and it left me needing to switch platforms when I got a 290.
vindictus is not the norm but using my 7850 with my i5 lets me max out with almost no frame dips but with the 6350 it regularly drops down to 30fps.
I could rant on and on about it but really just comes down to I was left feeling a little salty and like to keep fellow gamers off that road.. part of the fun with building a pc is being able to upgrade and customize as much as you want and lga 1150 will hit home for the newbie or enthusiast with or without deep pockets. can even start with a celeron and go all the way to a i7 with the same mobo.

The testimony on this forum and thread from other FX users and the professional reviews say different.

Either you had a faulty FX 6350 or something else went wrong. OS configuration, software driver, process mismanagement, faulty motherboard or some hardware incompatiblity was to blame for your poor performance.

I've seen users on forums saying their Geforce Titans are undeforming. It's a £1,000 GPU so we know something other than the card itself is to blame. If they don't resolve the issue they will probably run around saying Nvidia sucks or spread misinformation saying an ancient ATI 5770 is faster than an Geforce Titan. Of course they would be 100% incorrect but they are letting one negative isolated experience cloud their judgement. Its the same thing with you.

There are thousands of combinations models of GPUs, GPUs, motherboards, memory etc. Then factor in driver revisions, patches, background processes unique to the users choice of configuration. 100% compatibility and advertised performance isn't always promised, in unique circumstances users will get abnormalities in performance. This is you.

 

[Rowsol]

really 1.2V for 3.8gig? you must have got a bad one, even with the Biostar overclocking utility (I don't use auto overclocking was just playing) it gave me 4.4gig @ 1.2V. I don't play a lot of games but the ones I have played don't ever seem to hold back my 280X.

Yea, I saw others get 4.2 at the same voltage. I never claimed my clocks to be good, just stating what I got and why it would be a solid choice given it's price.

 

[Toothless]

Again, the 6350 will be a good buy for OP. Must I show proof that the 6 core is good enough with the 750TI? Quit with adding Intel into this because OBVIOUSLY THE BUDGET DOESN'T ALLOW IT.

 

[azngreentea01]

The Grand total is $429.94 Canada - $50 rebate = 379.94

 

[xfia]

@Dent1 I think I know what I'm doing and the game even recommends lower settings with a 6350 .. obviously you have never tried vindictus let alone played it with different cpu's. wild particles and heart pumping high physics.. that's a job for a Intel inside. go for it and watch your athlon get put to shame.
@Toothless Intel has good prices and a excellent upgrade path for people that cant go all out on the first purchase.

 

[Toothless]

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The Grand total is $429.94 Canada - $50 rebate = 379.94


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The 650 is weaker than the 750TI. Go look at some benchmarks.

 

[azngreentea01]

The 650 is weaker than the 750TI. Go look at some benchmarks.

I know, but if you look at his budget, at 650 will do enough to play most game at medium, a 750 ti is 170$ in canada, that over the budget.

 

[Toothless]

@Dent1 I think I know what I'm doing and the game even recommends lower settings with a 6350 .. obviously you have never tried vindictus let alone played it with different cpu's. wild particles and heart pumping high physics.. that's a job for a Intel inside. go for it and watch your athlon get put to shame.
@Toothless Intel has good prices and a excellent upgrade path for people that cant go all out on the first purchase.

You know all Nexon games have the worst coding? There is no smooth gameplay with them. I uses to play Vindi on my ATHLON X4 and it was fine. My FX-6300 ran it just fine.

 

[Dent1]

@Dent1 I think I know what I'm doing and the game even recommends lower settings with a 6350 .. obviously you have never tried vindictus let alone played it with different cpu's. wild particles and heart pumping high physics.. that's a job for a Intel inside. go for it and watch your athlon get put to shame.
@Toothless Intel has good prices and a excellent upgrade path for people that cant go all out on the first purchase.

You know all Nexon games have the worst coding? There is no smooth gameplay with them. I uses to play Vindi on my ATHLON X4 and it was fine. My FX-6300 ran it just fine.

xfia... you still mad bro

Edit:

Fourstaff and Tatty_One Do you have any plans to suspend him? Because he is spreading misinformation despite being warned many times.

 

[Toothless]

Let me just add in for @xfia that even with my 4790k, that Nexon games still run like a giant pile of sodding shite. I can prove this too.

 

[xfia]

mad about what? being trolled on so much? toothless is probably lying about even playing it and even if he did there was no solid 60fps with max settings going on with a 6300. why waist my time explaining how the game was developed and wasn't even by nexon or even close to the budget of many games in it's shadow.
of course that's what trolls do.. ya know stuff like not read anything, lie and recommend inferior gaming gear. oo you looked that over didn't you dent.. ya know how the op can afford Intel but toothless said they can't.
yup you can continue to troll me toothless.. my i5 plays it perfect while hosting so maybe you have a weak connection. trolls that don't read don't know that the source engine is heavily connection dependent. I could tell you how to get perfect 60fps with a i7 assuming you have a good connection but trolls need to learn to read eventually.

 

[Toothless]

mad about what? being trolled on so much? toothless is probably lying about even playing it and even if he did there was no solid 60fps with max settings going on with a 6300. why waist my time explaining how the game was developed and wasn't even by nexon or even close to the budget of many games in it's shadow.
of course that's what trolls do.. ya know stuff like not read anything, lie and recommend inferior gaming gear. oo you looked that over didn't you dent.. ya know how the op can afford Intel but toothless said they can't.
yup you can continue to troll me toothless.. my i5 plays it perfect while hosting so maybe you have a weak connection. trolls that don't read don't know that the source engine is heavily connection dependent. I could tell you how to get perfect 60fps with a i7 assuming you have a good connection but trolls need to learn to read eventually.

This is why I quit the game: the playerbase is ignorant and stubborn, just as the company that hosts the game. Get off your high horse and take a look. Go play other Nexon games. They all run poorly.