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7300LE = 5.3gb/sec
8600gt = 22.4gb/sec

these are reference the difference is that the 8600gt has a lot more memory interfaces than the 7300LE [more bits if you will] :p

Please u_u How can i have 22.4 Gb/sec in my 8600 gt Fatal1ty 1GB Y_Y ????
 
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EDIT: and 22.4gb/sec is for the ddr3 but compared to the 5.3gb/sec im pretty sure the ddr2 ones are gonna have WAY more bandwidth than that.
 
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Here's one FACT:

GPU-Z reads the DDR2 memory frequency incorrectly on your XFX 7300LE. I'm surprised nobody had stated this yet. In reality the memory on your 7300LE is running 400MHz / DDR-800 resulting in bandwidth of 6.4GB/s. This should be obvious as it is utterly impossible DDR2 would run 800MHz real, 1600MHz effective.


Don't forget to report the bug at GPU-Z subforum.
 
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Here's one FACT:

GPU-Z reads the DDR2 memory frequency incorrectly on your XFX 7300LE. I'm surprised nobody had stated this yet. In reality the memory on your 7300LE is running 400MHz / DDR-800 resulting in bandwidth of 6.4GB/s. This should be obvious as it is utterly impossible DDR2 would run 800MHz real, 1600MHz effective.


Don't forget to report the bug at GPU-Z subforum.

then, i need used other version of gpu-z??

i will check with other version.

the my 7300LE its so faster, really.

my brother say that with my video card can run WarCraft III The frozen throne with all the configuration high 1024x768 32bits to 70fps and does not reduce the frames per second when there are 10 players on screen with all its units each, he have a monitor with max resolution is 1024x768 32bits 60hz. I played a few times a war craft, which supports the maximum resolution is 1600x1200, I'm with the 7300 video card only gets to 40 frames per second and in the situation where 10 players are together I have is the minimum 25 fps.

i and my brother used FRAPS to rank the fps. but i dont wanna play any game -.- i want play HD movies.

the max bandwidth of the 7300 are 12.5gb/s (800mhz memo)
and the 8600 are 16.3 gb/s (only 500mhz memo)
with both video card its impossible fluid play HD movies.

I dont wanna play game, i dont have now in my computer WarCraft, i dont like games, i wanna only play HD movies.



please help me.... :confused:
 
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i and my brother used FRAPS to rank the fps. but i dont wanna play any game -.- i want play HD movies.

the max bandwidth of the 7300 are 12.5gb/s (800mhz memo)
and the 8600 are 16.3 gb/s (only 500mhz memo)
with both video card its impossible fluid play HD movies.


I dont wanna play game, i dont have now in my computer WarCraft, i dont like games, i wanna only play HD movies.

please help me.... :confused:

The bandwidth of the memory is more than enough there to be able to deal with a full-hd stream, the 7300 lacks any hardware support for decoding hd videos, whereas the 8xxx series has some dedicated parts to decode hd videos at full speed.

If you have trouble playing HD videos on the 8600 you should look at using different codecs or a different video player which supports hardware acceleration so you get smooth playback.
 

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The bandwidth of the memory is more than enough there to be able to deal with a full-hd stream, the 7300 lacks any hardware support for decoding hd videos, whereas the 8xxx series has some dedicated parts to decode hd videos at full speed.

If you have trouble playing HD videos on the 8600 you should look at using different codecs or a different video player which supports hardware acceleration so you get smooth playback.

i played HD from http://www.apple.com/quicktime/guide/hd/shark.html
File size: 86.9 MB
Resolution: 1920x1080

with the last quick time,

i played 11. El hombre orquesta (2005) [1080p x264 Bluray]-AJP.mkv from blue ray disc

with windows media player.
media player classic of free codecs
cyberlink power dvd 9
divx player.

its impossible play fluid hd movies.

are you sure? that the bandwidth is more than necessary??? 16 Gb/sc
 
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are you sure? that the bandwidth is more than necessary??? 16 Gb/sc

Positive. A blu-ray film @ 1080p with 7.1 sound needs 54 Mbit/s to run.

Don't forget blu-ray drives come with sata 2 connections - 300mb/sec max speed (they don't get anywhere near that, as i said above 54mbit/sec is the maximum needed in the blu-ray specification.

I get the feeling your problem is not your graphics card but elsewhere in your system - your cpu should be fast enough, however if you have too many background processes such as anti-virus then it could reduce your free cpu resources too low.

As a test play a full hd stream and look in task manager to see how much cpu is in use.
 

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Positive. A blu-ray film @ 1080p with 7.1 sound needs 54 Mbit/s to run.

Don't forget blu-ray drives come with sata 2 connections - 300mb/sec max speed (they don't get anywhere near that, as i said above 54mbit/sec is the maximum needed in the blu-ray specification.

I get the feeling your problem is not your graphics card but elsewhere in your system - your cpu should be fast enough, however if you have too many background processes such as anti-virus then it could reduce your free cpu resources too low.

As a test play a full hd stream and look in task manager to see how much cpu is in use.

okay, i will check the process with the task manager of windows.
 

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If your hard drive is being accessed too much or if its too slow HD movies will not be fluid.
 

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hecthork,

  1. uninstall all of your video codecs - All of them
  2. and then install the Combine Community Codec Pack (CCP)
  3. use Windows Media player classic - it comes with CCP

http://cccp-project.net/
 

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okey i will do that :toast: thx

answer the previus post,

i check the process, max 15% when i dont use anything.
when i reproduce mkv 60% to max 70% use CPU

windows media player and other reproductor 50 to max 71% use of CPU

its the same result uninstall all the codec,restart pc, install Combined-Community-Codec-Pack-2008-09-21, and restart again.

memory 1027mb free - 952MB in use - 11MB reserv to the hardware - 58MB modify

used of Hard Disk
when i do anything its write 8781 B/s - system PID 4 And read 0 B/s


when i reproduce HD video
mplayerc.exe only read 424892 B/s

and system only write 11000 B/s

its all the process.

:confused:
 

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Now im in the PC of my brother.

i unistall all driver, and reinstall, but my brother desactivate TurboCache with Riva tunern and driver 93.81 (93.81_forceware_winxp2k_english.exe)

download in these computer again GPU-Z 0.3.4 and CPU-Z

and these is the information








i think that something was wrong, could be driver or something else, but the riva turner dont wanna put 600mhz core >_< my brother will kill me u_u... but its the information. i think that is right.
 

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and these is with the GPU-Z.0.0.9.exe



pixel and texture its diferent but the bandwidth its the same...
 

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I'm confused what your question is, I'm getting a feeling that knowone understands what your problem is exactly.

You want to play movies, HD movies but the frame rate is low and the movie is unwatchable?

I can tell you right away if you're only running 1 GB of ram HD movies especially at 1920x1080 is going to be unplayable, its not uncommon for an untouched HD movie to use around 1.5 GBs - 2 GBs of ram once you factor in all the background processes.

please fill in your system specification here---> http://forums.techpowerup.com/profile.php?do=specs
 

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someone kill me.... How its possible... in the computer of my brother can reproduce HD movies >_< exactly 11. El hombre orquesta (2005) [1080p x264 Bluray]-AJP.mkv these file, and in the site of quick time HD too ...............

relly, relly, relly, i dont now what to do... WHY? WHY WHY WHY WHY WH????
i hate my computer -.-!!!

but its impossible???? how?
 

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someone kill me.... How its possible... in the computer of my brother can reproduce HD movies >_< exactly 11. El hombre orquesta (2005) [1080p x264 Bluray]-AJP.mkv these file, and in the site of quick time HD too ...............

relly, relly, relly, i dont now what to do... WHY? WHY WHY WHY WHY WH????
i hate my computer -.-!!!

but its impossible???? how?

I'm not sure why, both you and your brother have really really old computers, if it can play 1080p it will be borderline meeting the requirements. Did you try Media Player Classic? it comes with CCC.

Edit:

Also I would bother with the 8600 GT, look for a cheap ATI 4670 or 4830
 
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That's still wrong.
No reason to try older versions as they'd all have the bug.
It is a FACT the DDR2 RAM on your card cannot be 800MHz (DDR-1600), as GPU-Z incorrectly reports.

how can i now the real clock of the memory???
 
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using "Rivatuner Hardware Monitoring" the computer of my brother its the same result. i think that it information its true. exist other form to check mh of the memory?? or pass for test?

i dont now what to do... i think that my mobo (946gzis suck)
 
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using "Rivatuner Hardware Monitoring" the computer of my brother its the same result. i think that it information its true. exist other form to check mh of the memory?? or pass for test?
Rivatuner actually displays 800MHz in the chart in Hardware monitoring? Not 400MHz, but 800MHz? If that's so, I'm very surprised to see even Rivatuner gives false info. Either RT and GPU-Z are reading the memory wrong or your card would have GDDR3 instead of DDR2, but it is absolutely certain DDR2 cannot do 800MHz (DDR-1600).

Can you read what it says on one of the memory chips and post it?
 

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Rivatuner actually displays 800MHz in the chart in Hardware monitoring? Not 400MHz, but 800MHz? If that's so, I'm very surprised to see even Rivatuner gives false info. Either RT and GPU-Z are reading the memory wrong or your card would have GDDR3 instead of DDR2, but it is absolutely certain DDR2 cannot do 800MHz (DDR-1600).

Can you read what it says on one of the memory chips and post it?

i agree with you n_n ... but its fast o_O ? and play HD movies of blueray disc -.-! and i cant in my mobo 946gzis with 8600gt 1gb (2x512 MB ddr2) i will change my mobo u_u the mobo of my brother is PC CHIP -.-! all about this is crazy... like in the title... " i so confused... "
 
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