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I7 Overheating ?

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Yes, with this 80c the CPU life is very diminished ?
Yes I post update on that on this thread

Well Asus lets these processors throttle above 85 degrees, the CPU should be fine, it can go up all the way to 100 degrees,
the thing is when it starts throttling the gameplay stutters.
 

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Well Asus lets these processors throttle above 85 degrees, the CPU should be fine, it can go up all the way to 100 degrees,
the thing is when it starts throttling the gameplay stutters.
Ok, I'll contact ASUS for more informations and recommandations. But if I need, do you know where I find a disassembly guide for this laptop ? Not a problem if you don't ^^
ps : I haven't any throttling since yesterday.
 
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Ok, I'll contact ASUS for more informations and recommandations. But if I need, do you know where I find a disassembly guide for this laptop ? Not a problem if you don't ^^
ps : I haven't any throttling since yesterday.

No throttling since you used ThrottleStop?
I would contact Asus, and don't tell them you used ThrottleStop but tell them the CPU temps went over 85 degrees and that you had stutters in the game.

Google is your best friend!
 

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No throttling since you used ThrottleStop?
I would contact Asus, and don't tell them you used ThrottleStop but tell them the CPU temps went over 85 degrees and that you had stutters in the game.

Google is your best friend!
Yes, ok I don't tell them about ThrottleStop. And yes, not throttling since TSTOP is active. I looking for a Guide on Google ;)
 
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"What we didn’t liked at Asus G551
Internal components temperatures reach 95 degrees Celsius for processor, up to 80 degrees Celsius for video card, and this is the reason that the laptop case is overheating when running intensive games"

http://www.techwarn.com/asus-g551-review-price/

On google I found lots of overheating problems with this laptop, sadly you already bought it, I myself have done extensive research before I bought this G750JX laptop, I almost went for an MSI since it was cheaper, but found out it was running way hotter then the Asus G750JX, so I went for the more expensive Asus G750JX which had far better cooling then the MSI.
 
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"What we didn’t liked at Asus G551
Internal components temperatures reach 95 degrees Celsius for processor, up to 80 degrees Celsius for video card, and this is the reason that the laptop case is overheating when running intensive games"

http://www.techwarn.com/asus-g551-review-price/

On google I found lots of overheating problems with this laptop, sadly you already bought it, I myself have done extensive research before I bought this G750JX laptop, I almost went for an MSI since it was cheaper, but found out it was running way hotter then the Asus G750JX, so I went for the more expensive Asus G750JX which had far better cooling then the MSI.

Ok great point, thanks for your time :) a repaste can help the cpu to cooler and more safety ?
 
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Ok great point, thanks for your time :) a repaste can help the cpu to cooler and more safety ?

Personally I would not touch my laptop internal components besides RAM and SSD/HDD but if you want,
you could give it a try by repasting it with some quality TIM.
 

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Ok, so this heat seemingly the norm for this model if I right understand. Thanks for help and your time.
And this thread was a good exercise for my english ^^
 

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Intel set the CPU throttling temperature to 100°C for a reason. Intel calls this temperature the, "maximum safe operating temperature". That is the temperature when CPU throttling is supposed to begin.

Asus has produced many gaming laptops that start to throttle at too low of a temperature. Disabling BD PROCHOT helps prevent Asus laptops from throttling too soon. When BD PROCHOT is disabled, your CPU will still thermal throttle if it gets too hot. It will throttle at the Intel specified temperature to protect the CPU from damage. No matter how you have ThrottleStop setup, your CPU will still be safe. Intel CPUs are very capable of operating reliably at high temperatures for many years so no worries. 80°C is a normal temperature for gaming laptops that use Intel 4th Gen CPUs.

If you post some screenshots of ThrottleStop, I will tell you if you have it setup correctly. There are lots of options but most throttling problems can be fixed with just a few minor adjustments in ThrottleStop.

You can find some more information on the Notebook Review forum but this information needs to be updated with the new FIVR overclocking and voltage control features.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/
 

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Intel set the CPU throttling temperature to 100°C for a reason. Intel calls this temperature the, "maximum safe operating temperature". That is the temperature when CPU throttling is supposed to begin.

Asus has produced many gaming laptops that start to throttle at too low of a temperature. Disabling BD PROCHOT helps prevent Asus laptops from throttling too soon. When BD PROCHOT is disabled, your CPU will still thermal throttle if it gets too hot. It will throttle at the Intel specified temperature to protect the CPU from damage. No matter how you have ThrottleStop setup, your CPU will still be safe. Intel CPUs are very capable of operating reliably at high temperatures for many years so no worries. 80°C is a normal temperature for gaming laptops that use Intel 4th Gen CPUs.

If you post some screenshots of ThrottleStop, I will tell you if you have it setup correctly. There are lots of options but most throttling problems can be fixed with just a few minor adjustments in ThrottleStop.

You can find some more information on the Notebook Review forum but this information needs to be updated with the new FIVR overclocking and voltage control features.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/
Thanks :) Ok, I'll send you screenshots soon as possible :)
 

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Intel set the CPU throttling temperature to 100°C for a reason. Intel calls this temperature the, "maximum safe operating temperature". That is the temperature when CPU throttling is supposed to begin.

Asus has produced many gaming laptops that start to throttle at too low of a temperature. Disabling BD PROCHOT helps prevent Asus laptops from throttling too soon. When BD PROCHOT is disabled, your CPU will still thermal throttle if it gets too hot. It will throttle at the Intel specified temperature to protect the CPU from damage. No matter how you have ThrottleStop setup, your CPU will still be safe. Intel CPUs are very capable of operating reliably at high temperatures for many years so no worries. 80°C is a normal temperature for gaming laptops that use Intel 4th Gen CPUs.

If you post some screenshots of ThrottleStop, I will tell you if you have it setup correctly. There are lots of options but most throttling problems can be fixed with just a few minor adjustments in ThrottleStop.

You can find some more information on the Notebook Review forum but this information needs to be updated with the new FIVR overclocking and voltage control features.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/

Well, this is my settings on ThrottleStop :



Thx for your help :)
 
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I believe that "PROCHOT 95" means that Asus has set the CPU thermal limit at 95 degrees for this laptop, it should not throttle below 95 degrees.
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Why not un-check the "Disable Turbo" box so your CPU can run at its Intel rated speed? A 4710HQ should be running a lot faster than 2494 MHz. Intel designed Turbo Boost so you can get maximum performance out of your CPU. If you owned a Corvette would you drive around town at part throttle like you were driving a taxi? You bought a performance oriented CPU so don't be afraid to use it. I think you can push your CPU harder than 2494 MHz without any long term worries. Intel CPUs do a great job of looking after themselves. If they ever get too hot, they automatically throttle to prevent any damage occurring.

You should also open up the ThrottleStop - FIVR window and drop the CPU core voltage and the CPU cache voltage about -50 mV each. This reduces power consumption and that reduces heat so you can run your CPU faster.

Intel's mobile Core i7 line is far more capable than you can imagine.

http://i59.tinypic.com/amqged.png

Intel rates the 4710HQ to run reliably up to the thermal throttling temperature which is 100°C. Asus must think that is too high so they have set an offset of -5°C so thermal throttling will begin at 95°C instead of 100°C. There is no reason to do that. I am confident that Intel does plenty of long term testing at some extreme temperatures and they know that their CPUs are 100% reliable at up to 100°C. The majority of the CPUs that Intel has built during the last 8 years all use the standard 100°C throttling temperature. If this was causing any problems, I am sure that Intel would have changed this temperature a long time ago.
 
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If my CPU (i7 4700HQ) temperature with full turbo would run up to 3.4GHz @ 85 degrees C (mine runs up to 79 full turbo),
I personally feel it's just running to hot, for me it runs a game @2.8Ghz just as good as @3.4Ghz with less heat.
And mine begins to throttle at 85 degrees C, as you have seen that in a post about ThrottleStop @unclewebb : http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/disabling-turbo-i7-4700hq-with-throttlestop.207621/

 
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Why not un-check the "Disable Turbo" box so your CPU can run at its Intel rated speed? A 4710HQ should be running a lot faster than 2494 MHz. Intel designed Turbo Boost so you can get maximum performance out of your CPU. If you owned a Corvette would you drive around town at part throttle like you were driving a taxi? You bought a performance oriented CPU so don't be afraid to use it. I think you can push your CPU harder than 2494 MHz without any long term worries. Intel CPUs do a great job of looking after themselves. If they ever get too hot, they automatically throttle to prevent any damage occurring.

You should also open up the ThrottleStop - FIVR window and drop the CPU core voltage and the CPU cache voltage about -50 mV each. This reduces power consumption and that reduces heat so you can run your CPU faster.

Intel's mobile Core i7 line is far more capable than you can imagine.

http://i59.tinypic.com/amqged.png

Intel rates the 4710HQ to run reliably up to the thermal throttling temperature which is 100°C. Asus must think that is too high so they have set an offset of -5°C so thermal throttling will begin at 95°C instead of 100°C. There is no reason to do that. I am confident that Intel does plenty of long term testing at some extreme temperatures and they know that their CPUs are 100% reliable at up to 100°C. The majority of the CPUs that Intel has built during the last 8 years all use the standard 100°C throttling temperature. If this was causing any problems, I am sure that Intel would have changed this temperature a long time ago.

Ok, I do that quickly thanks :)
 

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If my CPU (i7 4700HQ) temperature with full turbo would run up to 3.4GHz @ 85 degrees C (mine runs up to 79 full turbo),
I personally feel it's just running to hot, for me it runs a game @2.8Ghz just as good as @3.4Ghz with less heat.
And mine begins to throttle at 85 degrees C, as you have seen that in a post about ThrottleStop @unclewebb .

Yes, great point obviously.
 
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