Is LGA 2011 better than 1150

[The Von Matrices]

so.... only reason to go LGA 2011 right now is if you want to run 3 or more GPU's is that correct? other than that no point?

LGA2011 is not a clear winner for the best gaming platform at the moment even with multiple GPUs. Current games don't use more than 4 cores and current graphics cards aren't limited by the PCIe bandwidth of LGA1150. The LGA1150 platform ties the LGA2011 platform in gaming performance but is $400-$500 less expensive. This is an extremely helpful article on the impact of CPU performance and PCIe bandwidth on multi-GPU gaming. If you really want the PCIe lanes for gaming get a LGA1150 board with a PLX bridge. The reason to go for LGA2011 is if for compute applications - where you may need 6 cores, the memory capacity/bandwidth for those applications, or the PCIe lanes for specialty PCIe cards like hardware encoders and RAID controllers. I am running 3 GPUs on a LGA1150 platform for this exact reason.

But.... I also thought.... with a 64 bit games started to come out now..... and more and more 64 bit applications.... can we then agreed that in the near future, 6 cores will be fully utilized... making it the 6 core or more CPU's will become more future proof?

Maybe; with the new game consoles having 6 usable cores (2 are reserved for the OS in the XBOX One) then it's a reasonable prediction. At the moment CRYSIS 3 is the only PC game I know of to use more than 4 cores. I wouldn't base a purchase on a prediction of the future.

 

[Ja.KooLit]

LGA2011 is not a clear winner for the best gaming platform at the moment even with multiple GPUs. Current games don't use more than 4 cores and current graphics cards aren't limited by the PCIe bandwidth of LGA1150. The LGA1150 platform ties the LGA2011 platform in gaming performance but is $400-$500 less expensive. This is an extremely helpful article on the impact of CPU performance and PCIe bandwidth on multi-GPU gaming. If you really want the PCIe lanes for gaming get a LGA1150 board with a PLX bridge. The reason to go for LGA2011 is if for compute applications - where you may need 6 cores, the memory capacity/bandwidth for those applications, or the PCIe lanes for specialty PCIe cards like hardware encoders and RAID controllers. I am running 3 GPUs on a LGA1150 platform for this exact reason.



Maybe; with the new game consoles having 6 usable cores (2 are reserved for the OS in the XBOX One) then it's a reasonable prediction. At the moment CRYSIS 3 is the only PC game I know of to use more than 4 cores. I wouldn't base a purchase on a prediction of the future.

Thanks for the answer VON... do you have any links with multi GPU cards thats uses PLX chips vs native x79..ive been trying to search for days now I cannot seem to find any regarding that.. only with reviewers saying add latency but no real wold benches I could find

 

[The Von Matrices]

Thanks for the answer VON... do you have any links with multi GPU cards thats uses PLX chips vs native x79..ive been trying to search for days now I cannot seem to find any regarding that.. only with reviewers saying add latency but no real wold benches I could find

Are you referring to a single card with two GPUs that does not use a PLX bridge? If so one does not exist. If you want multiple GPUs without PCIe bridges then you need multiple single GPU cards. That article I linked to does compare performance of multiple cards with and without PLX bridges on a ton of platforms including LGA1150 and LGA2011.

 

[Ja.KooLit]

Are you referring to a single card with two GPUs that does not use a PLX bridge? If so one does not exist. If you want multiple GPUs without PCIe bridges then you need multiple single GPU cards. That article I linked to does compare performance of multiple cards with and without PLX bridges on a ton of platforms including LGA1150 and LGA2011. It's

aha! very very very much... this is what I was looking for..

yes a multiple single GPU card...

I read more on the link you gave me.... im so happy finally found what I was looking for days now.. lol

 

[Vario]

Delidding is easy to do you should of read up before putting it on the top side of the ihs, and theres no way the lid can come off when installed.

I move my computer around a lot. The heavy weight of the cooler shifted it. I have delidded 6 CPUs. I started with $5 celeron cpu's from ebay. Done it with hammer and with razor blade. No big deal. What sucks is the CLU dried up under the lid after it shifted and it also dried up and alloyed to the bare copper, ruining my $100 H100i's waterblock. Fuck it. Don't count on delidding to make it worthwhile. Just buy the intel performance plan, exceed your limits, and get a new chip after the first one dies.

 

[Enterprise24]

3770K delidded is rock like 2600K.
4770K delidded is still hot when pass certain voltage cause FIVR on die.

Broadwell-K will move FIVR back to motherboard so it may not compatible with 1150 socket.

 

[Hood]

I move my computer around a lot. The heavy weight of the cooler shifted it. I have delidded 6 CPUs. I started with $5 celeron cpu's from ebay. Done it with hammer and with razor blade. No big deal. What sucks is the CLU dried up under the lid after it shifted and it also dried up and alloyed to the bare copper, ruining my $100 H100i's waterblock. Fuck it. Don't count on delidding to make it worthwhile. Just buy the intel performance plan, exceed your limits, and get a new chip after the first one dies.

I thought you were using an H100i, so what "heavy weight of the cooler" are you referring to? The pump/waterblock isn't heavy and should be tight enough to stay put. If you're talking about an air cooler you used in the past, why would you even run an air cooler on a delidded chip? The idea is to get the lowest possible temps, and you might start with an air cooler, then go for water cooling, then delid the CPU to replace the TIM, and lastly, scrap the lid and run it naked with a modified water block mount for the best possible cooling. To run an air cooler on a delidded chip is skipping the most important step, the water cooling, and as you noted, large air coolers shift around a bit when moving or working inside the case, so it's no wonder the CLU dried out.

 

[BiggieShady]

I found this forum in a Google search because of a build I am considering. I have always wanted an ATX mini-tower super computer for the kind of semi-portable setup that is a little more serious than you would use a laptop for. I want to use the Coolermaster Elite 343 (USB 3.0), with the best Asus mobo and i7. I haven't built a machine for 5 or 6 years (no $), but it's always an itch. My two previous builds were 939s. Both Coolermaster and Asus. My own personal build was an A8N-SLI 32 Deluxe, with an Opteron 165, and the other was an A8N-E with a 3200 (now the family computer).

So for the mini-tower, I was thinking of the Asus Sabertooth Z87 with an i7 quad and 32gb of Corsair RAM, but I kept looking around and saw the 2011 socket, and found the X79, so my choices became more complicated.

I'm not a gamer or an OCer, but I do enjoy video editing. Overkill gives me a sense of security in just knowing that I won't have to upgrade when something new comes around that I would like to do with my rig. Room to grow is always nice. I like the idea of having 32gigs of RAM knowing that I'm only using 8, or 16.

The 3200 I am using to type this has only 1GB of RAM (we all hate it). Another 3 are on their way from Hong Kong (I will buy a 4400 later). I don't want to have to do this again with the build I am considering. We only have to do these things when we cheap out on a build.

Having said all that, I know very little about 1150 or 2011, or the i7 procs for either. What I want is a blazing fast, jaw-dropping monster rig in a little box that nobody will notice is in the room unless I point it out to them. Kind of an unassuming Veyron, if you know what I mean.

Very elaborate and completely misplaced first post.
I suggest creating a new thread with same opening post + information about how much you are willing to spend.

 

[typicalintrovert]

short answer: yes

long answer: yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

only bad thing about 2011 is necessity for quad channel ram, and only a select few motherboards are good enough to really consider buying and they are all over 400 dollars. but if you can hack the investment, its better than 1150. but if you are on a budget, go with 1150 as the quality boards start around $250

 

[Oldgeek]

Very elaborate and completely misplaced first post.
I suggest creating a new thread with same opening post + information about how much you are willing to spend.

I figured I was just continuing the conversation of 1150 vs. 2011, but okay....

I deleted the post. It is now in the New Build forum.