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The Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR4-2400 2x4GB to be exact.

And it might be settings, etc...all I know at this point is that it is a RAM issue. As long as it's not the mother board or CPU I'm OK haha!
2x4gb? I know your friend has the other half of the kit, but why?
 
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The Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR4-2400 2x4GB to be exact.

And it might be settings, etc...all I know at this point is that it is a RAM issue. As long as it's not the mother board or CPU I'm OK haha!

Yeah, ram is certainly cheaper, so here's hoping it's ram.

2x4gb? I know your friend has the other half of the kit, but why?

It's actually easier on the mem controller that way, but he does lose quad channel ability... kinda sucky to lose that yeah.
 
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2x4gb? I know your friend has the other half of the kit, but why?

Well he had a X99 system first...bought the quad channel kit and his system kept messing up (doing the same stuff mine is). So he bought another to see if it had the same issue.

Long story short he found that six sticks worked and just gave me the other two. Problem is that he's getting issues again, same as before, so it's a RAM issue for both of us at this point.
 

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Well he had a X99 system first...bought the quad channel kit and his system kept messing up (doing the same stuff mine is). So he bought another to see if it had the same issue.

Long story short he found that six sticks worked and just gave me the other two. Problem is that he's getting issues again, same as before, so it's a RAM issue for both of us at this point.
when posting ram kit please provide the whole product number
 
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when posting ram kit please provide the whole product number

Here you go!

 
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Different areas of the ram are tested in different ways with each pass. With the older version, you can see this with just two passes..the first is a preliminary pass that takes about 15 minutes, but the second, when testing 8 GB, will take nearly 45 minutes.

So no, it's not about forcing out issues...it's that parts of the ram just weren't tested yet.

The latest version shows 4 passes as sufficient, but ultimately, proper testing devices for memory cost a significant amount of money that no free software is going to replace.
It takes 9 days to check all parts of RAM?
 
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It takes 9 days to check all parts of RAM?

Ram is weird. It can write a flat set of 1s or 0s to a block correctly and then completely fail when that becomes a certain pattern. You really need to try all sorts of different results and read them back to know it's truly stable. 9 days is probably excessive for a consumer but it is certainly a solid amount of time to test for good stability.
 

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Ram is weird. It can write a flat set of 1s or 0s to a block correctly and then completely fail when that becomes a certain pattern. You really need to try all sorts of different results and read them back to know it's truly stable. 9 days is probably excessive for a consumer but it is certainly a solid amount of time to test for good stability.
So it's all the miriad different patterns that need to be tested, that makes sense. The point I made in post 63 still holds true though, so now we have at least two good reasons to soak test the RAM.

I do wonder how many of my old rigs would actually pass such a thorough test. :laugh:
 

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I do wonder how many of my old rigs would actually pass such a thorough test. :laugh:
100% of mine will. But I've always been hardcore into ram stability, and it is also why I suggested memtest first when other were looking elsewhere.

In the end, I wouldn't even blame the ram. I'd blame the platform itself, and likely the combination of parts just won't play well together, but on their own, they will all test out as perfectly fine. WHen we build computers we are actaulyl building a complex electrical circuit, and sometimes the load placed on certain parts of the circuit causes weird issues that are unexplainable.

I have that ram, yep. It works fine, tested quite a few boards already, actually.


What really gets me is that for sure, some boards with OC socket makes some CPUS nice, but other CPUs are down-right horrible. Take that horrible CPU, but it in another board wit ha different OC socket, or a normal socket, and it works GREAT....
 
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Do you know what LLC does? If you did, you wouldn't make a recommendation like that as LLC helps keep you from killing your CPU at higher voltages. Maybe a description of what it is and what it does is in order:

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i know what LLC is, look at anandtech instead http://www.anandtech.com/show/2404/5

with LLC on, the PEAK voltages are going beyond recommended spec during the transition points, the intel spec is designed for vdroop & LLC goes against intel

anand was also more unstable as was i on my q9550 overclock, therefore i am not a fan of LLC

i dont see why people think vdroop is a bad thing, just change the settings for slightly 'more' voltage... it's not like you're gaining 15 degrees from LLC off with slightly more voltage vs LLC on with supposedly lower voltage

your second paragraph of the quote even says how LLC on has the chance of killing or deterioating your cpu, quite the opposite of 'helps keep you from killing your cpu at higher voltages', all it does is a motherboard maker's attempt at trying to provide flatter voltages due to people's perceptions (maybe it helps when you're on the extreme edge, professional overclocking, world records, etc)

i will check the rest of that post & i do like that there are measurements charts, science is the only way
 

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@cadaveca

Well, good for you that all your PCs are that rock solid. :p

The old geriatrics I'm thinking of are things like P3s, P4s, Athlons (32 and 64-bit) some of which were work discarded prebuilt machines and potentially had some abuse, hence I wouldn't be surprised if they fell over when stressed too hard. In fact some are not even full PCs, being just a case, mobo and CPU in some cases, with the parts robbed to feed something else, lol.

+1 on perfectly "good" parts not working together. Sure, standards are created to ensure they do, but they sometimes won't as we know to our cost. Some reasons being things like standards that aren't quite robust enough, aging components which are drifting out of spec or components that just aren't made that well and therefore don't quite meet the spec in the first place or have loose tolerances within the spec. That's a great example with the mobo, since there are just so many components on it which need to work to spec for it to go and of course the errors tend to accumulate rather than cancel out.


You'll like this story.

It's the summer of 2003 and instead of having a life like normal people, I build my first gaming PC based around a 32-bit 1.8GHz Athlon 2500+ CPU (ran reliably at 2.2GHz "3200+" speed with just a multiplier adjustment) an Asus A7N8X Deluxe mobo, an FX5200 AGP card (yes, yes, I know now, lol) and Windows XP Pro. I initially got 2 x DDR333 256MB modules for it. I did overclock them and I don't remember the exact speed reached, but it was slower than DDR400.

I then bought a DDR400 module of the same size some time later and sold one of the DDR333 modules (the poorer overclocker). Pair that remaining DDR333 module with the DDR400 one and I could overclock both sticks to something like DDR440, which was really impressive for the DDR333 module. However, run that DDR333 module on its own and it would fall over well before DDR400 speed. This even happened when I set the memory timings manually in the BIOS to match those set automatically by SPD when running the DDR400 stick. However, if I ran the DDR400 stick on its own, it unsurprisingly ran fine at its rated speed and I think hit DDR440 on its own, I don't quite remember now. The DDR333 stick I got rid of however, never did overclock reliably to DDR400 let alone to DDR440, regardless of the mobo slot I used. It might get to DDR400 speed, but then crash quite soon after. Note that the DDR333 sticks were matched pairs in terms of brand and model numbers, but bought as single packs, not in twin packs back then.

It looks like having a second stick in there running in dual channel mode somehow helped that superman of a DDR333 stick to run really fast and reliably overclocked and to this day I have no idea why this was the case. Any ideas?
 
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It's actually easier on the mem controller that way, but he does lose quad channel ability... kinda sucky to lose that yeah.

Do you mean I loser quad or my friend does? According to the manual for his motherboard (MSI Gamer 7) he can run 6 sticks in quad-channel. Look it up. Mad weird...didn't know that was possible as I would have assumed quad channel would require 4 or 8 sticks. Multiples of 4.

Either way, I found out my issue was the RAM. Have it at 2133MHz right now with no issues. Even overclocked to 4.4GHz with no issues.
 

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I'm with @cadaveca it has to be a bios memory timing issue.

On the Asus I used I had no issues with that kit.
 
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I'm with @cadaveca it has to be a bios memory timing issue.

On the Asus I used I had no issues with that kit.

Perhaps. Motherboard timings are correct with RAM spec. 2133 works though, so while it might now be the normal 2400 it at least works now so I'm OK with it.
 

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the AUTO settings for the memory would also change for said setting. All I am saying is that to get 2400MHz to run right or attempt to clock them at all, the secondaries may need relaxing a bit to make it run correctly with that motherboard. Also make sure you are on the latest BIOS, and look around in the memory section, there may just be an extra XMP profile, various settings for certain IC types, just maybe they have a built in answer to your issue.
 

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That board isn't too intelligent... ram OC needs fully manual settings, including RTL tweaks.
 

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That board isn't too intelligent... ram OC needs fully manual settings, including RTL tweaks.

Didn't even look TBH, thanks for the correction and time savings for them. :D
 

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It's a gaming product, not OCF, so it is not tailored for other than CPU clocking, IMHO. Same as most board, really, as few contain added memory profiling. It is the same with ASUS X99-A, which seems to be popular but has common reports of similar issues with Crucial ram.

Heck, I got a $1200 Corsair 2800 MHz DDR3 kit (retail, not review sample) that only works on X79... any other boards... no boot. Ram is fine, board is fine, CPUs are fine... but sometimes the right mix of parts is nothing but problems.
 
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It's a gaming product, not OCF, so it is not tailored for other than CPU clocking, IMHO. Same as most board, really, as few contain added memory profiling. It is the same with ASUS X99-A, which seems to be popular but has common reports of similar issues with Crucial ram.

Heck, I got a $1200 Corsair 2800 MHz DDR3 kit (retail, not review sample) that only works on X79... any other boards... no boot. Ram is fine, board is fine, CPUs are fine... but sometimes the right mix of parts is nothing but problems.

Yeah, it's working fine now but I'll probably get something different on down the road. I'm sure I could tweak it here and there but that's not really my forte and I'd probably cause more hard than good haha! 2133 is fast enough really. It has my 5820K solid at 4.4GHz so I'm happy, it's all I really wanted.
 

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I'm glad you got it sorted to your satisfaction!

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Have the same board (x99m extreme4 is phisicaly the same), same ram (the full 16gb kit), and the same proc.(5820K)

Am running the ram at 2400 with the timings tightened to 15-15-15-35, the proc overclocked to 4.5ghz(cache to 3.5).
Input voltage set to 1.9V, vcore set to adaptive - 1.244V, cache voltage set to adaptive - 1.199V, DRAM voltage 1.25V, SA voltage offset +0.100V
Every other voltage at stock setting and its rock solid(asus realbench stress test24H)

Just my 2c
 
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This stuff exactly:

http://www.crucial.com/csrusa/en/bls4k4g4d240fsa

Two sticks in Dual Channel? No problem. XMP works fine.

Triple sticks in Triple Channel? No problem. XMP works fine.

Quad channel? Ain't happening. Even at 2133Mhz and 1.3v (rated for 2400 @ 1.2v). System will either hang on post, system reboots during Windows startup, or system will crash when in Windows. CPU overclocked or not, doesn't matter.

This has been in two different systems...FIVE different motherboards...three different CPU...TWO different kits...same problem. Get a EVGA 4x4GB DDR4-2800 kit? No issues...booted right up and been working for a couple days now intensively.

So what gives? Even with motherboards that are certified for the RAM (Asrock X99 Extreme-4 and Arock X99M Killer) same issues. RAM been Memtested...all of it. No physical issues with the RAM. No errors.

Yeah...it's something to do with this model, these kits, and quad channel. Makes no sense to me!

Thoughts?
 

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This stuff exactly:

http://www.crucial.com/csrusa/en/bls4k4g4d240fsa

Two sticks in Dual Channel? No problem. XMP works fine.

Triple sticks in Triple Channel? No problem. XMP works fine.

Quad channel? Ain't happening. Even at 2133Mhz and 1.3v (rated for 2400 @ 1.2v). System will either hang on post, system reboots during Windows startup, or system will crash when in Windows. CPU overclocked or not, doesn't matter.

This has been in two different systems...FIVE different motherboards...three different CPU...TWO different kits...same problem. Get a EVGA 4x4GB DDR4-2800 kit? No issues...booted right up and been working for a couple days now intensively.

So what gives? Even with motherboards that are certified for the RAM (Asrock X99 Extreme-4 and Arock X99M Killer) same issues. RAM been Memtested...all of it. No physical issues with the RAM. No errors.

Yeah...it's something to do with this model, these kits, and quad channel. Makes no sense to me!

Thoughts?
probly just down to the peculiarities of the IC's in those sticks
I am sure dave would love to see the list of boards you tried and the corresponding bios revision
 
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probly just down to the peculiarities of the IC's in those sticks
I am sure dave would love to see the list of boards you tried and the corresponding bios revision

But across two different kits and 5 different motherboards? Isn't that a bit excessive? Especially considering some of those motherboards were specifically rated for this exact kit.
 

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But across two different kits and 5 different motherboards? Isn't that a bit excessive? Especially considering some of those motherboards were specifically rated for this exact kit.
Well its entirely possible that a few of the combinations you tried where down to the cpu's IMC being weak ... to much tension on the socket,incorrect bios config or any of the other 50 things that will cause issues ...

shit like this has been happening since the the era of SIMM Ram
some combinations of ram,cpu,board just will not play nice
regardless of what the specs and the QVL say ...
 
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