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Need help choosing gaming desktop PC

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by runal, Jul 7, 2014.

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Which PC?

Poll closed Jul 14, 2014.
  1. Warbird Nightblade

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  2. Vanquisher

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  1. runal New Member

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    Hi everyone. I am looking to buy my first gaming PC because i spend most of my time on the computer playing games with friends. I want to spend about 1000$ for a PC but only if it will last me at least 4 to 5 years if i keep up with dusting the inside every 6 months and so forth. So with my research i have come up with two computers i think would be the most bang for the buck and was curious if i could have some opinions on which one would be better. I also would like to know if you think the computer will lat 4 to 5 years and still run games smoothly on high graphics. Thanks in advance for the help. Here are the two options I've been researching.

    Yoyotech Warbird Nightblade 1.1

    Vanquisher II level 3
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    Please, for the love of god, build your own. We will bestow upon you the teachings necessary to do so, just please, don't buy those overpriced "customise with our own overpriced parts" companies.
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  3. runal New Member

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    I had a feeling some people would say something similar to that but dont worry i researched the parts for both and with the best deals i could find, it was only 50$ cheaper to build it myself for the vanquisher than it was to buy it prebuilt. There was practically no difference in price plus the prebuilt has a warranty.
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    Then let the users of TPU shamaze you in how they can build a better PC for cheaper, and arguably better quality parts.
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  5. runal New Member

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    Thank you for your help. We shall see what happens. Is i7 really necessary over i5 for a game such as diablo 3 on high graphics?
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    Nah, i7's are simply not worth the money when it comes to gaming.

    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HbH923

    Under budget, better parts. For an extra $100 you can go for the K version of the CPU, and a Z series motherboard for some OC potential in future, or you could spend the extra $100 on a better GPU!

    @BarbaricSoul @ne6togadno @LaytonJnr
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  7. THE_EGG

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    Definitely build it yourself, along with being cheaper and more satisfying, you can return one single part (using the component's warranty) if it is faulty and still be able to use the computer (or install a replacement part while it is in for repair). With a pre-built pc you'll generally have to bring in the whole system to be 'fixed' leaving you computerless :( .

    RCoon's build is pretty spot on for the money, you could try and find a good deal on an R9 280. They are generally cheaper than the GTX 760s and offer marginally better performance but use a little more power. Or if you choose to spend a little more, definitely have a look at a GTX 770 or R9 280X as they offer quite a lot more performance.
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  8. runal New Member

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    Thank you so much for all the responses. I will research videos and guides on how to build computers and consider doing my first computer build ever. Wish me luck. And again, thank you
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    If you wait 12 hours or so, you'll be bombarded with other useful builds from the other members on here, one of them may undoubtedly suit you better than what I came up with.

    EDIT: Also, it's pretty easy, putting the bits together. A lot easier than it was back in the day.
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  10. Devon68

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    Building a PC. No one on youtube explains better than this guy:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/CareyHolzman/videos
    just take a look at his older videos, he goes into great depth to explain what why and where connects.

    EDIT:
    Just seen this on the second link the OP provided and made me laugh:
    under the cooling on the digital storm website is says:
    Extreme Cooling :
    Standard Factory Heat-sink and Fan

    Yeah that's pretty extreme.
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    Can I just add, nothing now will work to the effect you want in 4-5 years. You'll need to sli/crossfire for that and with a 4-5 year old card, the driver support will be minimal. Build the best you can afford and change things when you need too. Your CPU will last for a far longer time in 'real performance' terms than a GFX card. Get a good base mobo/cpu combo and accept diminishing returns from your gpu.
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    The RCoon calls! The problem with prebuilt systems is that sometimes there is difficulty in upgrading in the future to what you really want without having to spend quite a lot of money. For people that have a large enough pocket, that's perhaps less of an issue. But prebuilt systems definitely focus far less on some of the more important or more useful features - the choice of PSU definitely comes to mind. These kind of things can last multiple years of builds, and save some money in the long run to spend on the more fun aspects of computing, such as watercooling loops or more powerful components. The thing about self-built systems is that they are better designed for upgradeability if the right initial choices are made.

    I'll suggest a build in a bit if you like, and see whether I can convince you. We can personalise this build for you. What kind of games do you like? Specific genres? Even little things like colour and acoustics can be considered which cannot as much in prebuilt systems.

    Layton
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    Although you have already made your decision to build your own o.p.( Thank the almighty p.c. gods ), I have "one" thing to add. When I built mine I felt like I had finally made all the oem explosions and bricks worth the money I "wasted". I bought what I wanted, put it together myself and stood in awe at the marvel that my tinkering brought me. It was the same feeling I got when I lost my truck in the weeds doing doughnuts, you know, that sense of wow cool! ( Insert Redneck joke here). Not only can I fine tune my rig but I also get that sense of satisfaction every time I get my gpu to drop 1 degree at load or get a slightly better bench score than yesterday. I thought for the longest time that my gaming p.c. was going to last me forever and I would never need to worry again about what I "HAD" to buy at the local Staples or Future shop. Well as I am sure most of the fellow master race on here can agree on is, it is no longer about games or crunching it's about the sense of pride you get every so often when you accomplish the stable o/c or get that new big rig sized cooler or get way better frames in that new title that you thought you should not be able to play.
    Welcome to TPU and rejoice in the fantastic community it hosts. And most of all welcome to P.C addiction 101
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    dude duno where you have checked prices but vanquish thing cost about 670 w/o software (warbird is about 800). with win and mcafee it cost about 800$ http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MggXJx
    and this is with retail prices. for oems those parts are even cheaper.

    so for about 1k
    you can have http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N8V3gs from amd
    or
    you can have http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ from intel/nvidia
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    I'm very skeptical whether you really found best price on parts. It's rather confusing that you even listed two different currency types on each build, let alone claim only $50 better pricing than that first one listed. I'm fairly familiar with how GBP translates to USD, and that first rig is WAY too high, even WITH worse pricing in the UK.
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    Here that translates to just under $2000AUD D: I can think of sooooo many ways to build a much better PC with that kind of money. Seems like a rip-off to me.

    If you MUST buy prebuilt, the only places I'd buy from is somewhere like a pc hardware reseller that just assembles pcs with the parts they're selling as generally the price is same as the parts plus something like $40-$100 for labour depending on the build. Also you should be able to take advantage of individual component warranties too. My boss had a pc built at my favourite pc hardware reseller and it was $65 more than if I built it - apparently that was worth it for her.
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    I have to say I disagree. Due to consolitis pretty much any decent gpu purchased 4 years ago will still play modern games at 1080p. Maybe not at max/ultra depending on the title, but even when I dropped down to a single GTX 480 I couple play every game in my vast steam library at 1080p with medium or high settings...which is of course when I found out that spending that extra money for the second card 4 years ago was useless save for benchmarking and providing extra heat in winter.

    If the games start taking off in development and maybe 4k stars taking off as well then maybe we'll see another run like 2002-2006 or 2007-2010. where the gpu purchased years before will be useless by the 4th year. But nowadays due to consolitis and stangnant screen resolution, games just aren't as demanding.

    I could easily see a 770/780, R9 290/X still chugging away latest gen games in 2018.
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    I agree and this is all fine and dandy assuming you aren't diagnosed with the "extreme high setting eye candy syndrome" like I am D: For me there can't be a setting that can be pushed higher (except for maybe AA), or else I NEED to buy a new gpu. I know, I know pretty lame right.
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    Only one voted.

    Its not about cheaper its about a better all around PC that is custom built and with better parts, Buying a prebuilt PC is like saying "guess where they cut corners"
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    You better dust it every other month.

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