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For X-mas this year I got a little bit of money and an H60 and some cash.

Instead of mounting the H60 on my FX-6300 and trying to get maybe another 200MHz out of it, I figured I would use the cash to upgrade to z97 and go Intel.

I'm re-using almost everything in my system, I'm just replacing the motherboard, CPU, and cooler.

I'm going to buy the i5-4690k, which leaves me with about $150 to spend on the motherboard.

Obviously I'd like a decent overclock and that is where I'm a bit confused.

Can I get a decent overclock with something like an AsRock Z97 Extreme3?

That board seems to fit my needs otherwise.
 
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Running the same CPU, on an Asus Z97-E and getting a 4.7 overclock with ease.
 
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For X-mas this year I got a little bit of money and an H60 and some cash.

Instead of mounting the H60 on my FX-6300 and trying to get maybe another 200MHz out of it, I figured I would use the cash to upgrade to z97 and go Intel.

I'm re-using almost everything in my system, I'm just replacing the motherboard, CPU, and cooler.

I'm going to buy the i5-4690k, which leaves me with about $150 to spend on the motherboard.

Obviously I'd like a decent overclock and that is where I'm a bit confused.

Can I get a decent overclock with something like an AsRock Z97 Extreme3?

That board seems to fit my needs otherwise.
If you want a great value board that handles overclocking, comes with a rich feature set, and will handle your needs/great build quality then here are my favorites I have seen/experienced:

MSI Z97-G55 SLI My personal favorite Z97 board this year, it comes with full SLI/CFX support for two video cards, an 8 phase VRM for overclocking, and great designs with nice heatsinks to keep everything cool.

Similar to the above (At similar feature sets and same price or cheaper plus in stock on newegg):

MSI Z97S SLI Plus Krait
MSI Z97S SLI Plus
Both are very similar but the Krait seems to be a little more "clean" and of course a different color scheme just going on looks but the overall feature set is similar between them. The regular SLI Plus has more 3.0 USB but other than that they are roughly the same.

The Asrock Z97 Extreme 3 is also a great board and a good choice as well as the Extreme 4 which has a bit more added to the feature set but both are great overclocking boards and such.

I would say you do not need to spend a ton on a motherboard to get a good value/overclocker that will do everything you want. Its going to come down to also if you want to have the option for SLI/CFX as there are some boards that sacrifice the SLI functionality to upgrade the audio and add extra attributes. However like I said its going to be what you decide is more important as a feature set for your needs and price.
 
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I'm not a fan of MSI but I will check those out.

I'm also thinking of just going with the Extreme4.

It is only $20 more and gives an M.2 slot.

I don't plan on use M.2 right now, but when I do buy an SSD I will probably will get an M.2 since getting a SATA SSD at this point is stupid as they are maxed out.
 
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untill you want to remove your "M.2 SATA" for whatever reason and notice you have to remove your GPU for that...

in 2 years I have seen announced mSATA cards, SATA Express, M.2.SATA, M.2.PCI.E... a bit too much to trust any of those to replace good (not old) SATA3...
 
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IMO m.2 is a gimmick @ this point in time.
Hmm..$150..
I'd say this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132075
+ this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bios-Chip-f...US_Motherboard_Components&hash=item20e6c433de

Asus PRO is a nice series. total: $108 ..and save $$ for something else.

or you could do the same thing with a Maximus VI Hero.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132016R
+ http://www.ebay.com/itm/BIOS-Chip-A...US_Motherboard_Components&hash=item5d4526ccab
= $116

you said you wanted to overclock..well..those boards will overclock :)
You may have to switch BIOS chips..but..there really is no difference between z87-z97

or this one..but then you have Giga BIOS ..blech..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128704R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128723
 
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I personally quite like the Z97-A. The ASUS ones are quite a solid choice this generation.
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
M.2 a gimmick? Support your thoughts on that schmuckly...

untill you want to remove your "M.2 SATA" for whatever reason and notice you have to remove your GPU for that...
I could see this being a worry on water... air... not so much, at all.
 
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Even on water, just pull the card and get an extra pair of hands... M.2 may be a gimmick at this point, but I guarantee there will be a lot of good SSDs on the market for M.2 by the end of the year.
 
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Ok, show me a SATA SSD that can read/write at 1170/930MBps.

PS: That drive is $500

Show me the M.2 drive that can read/write at 1170/930MBps in someone's system right now.

O look..it's an 840 PRO: with RAM cache
Looks like 8131/8812MBps to me :p
 
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PS: That drive is $500

Show me the M.2 drive that can read/write at 1170/930MBps in someone's system right now.

Price really doesn't matter. Performance as well as new technology comes at a price. This drive will crush any SATA based SSD in read/write, that is all that matters. Your statement that M.2 drives don't read/write any faster than SATA drives is completely wrong, period. The SATA based M.2 drives don't, duh, but the PCI-E based drives definitely do.

O look..it's an 840 PRO: with RAM cache
Looks like 8131/8812MBps to me :p

Good for you, you managed to show me speeds of a RAM drive not a SATA SSD. Good luck with your corrupt data when the power goes out or the machine crashes.

The actual 840 Pro read/write speeds are at best 540/520. That is all you are getting, ever. Reading/writing to a RAM drive first won't change that, it make make benchmarks show faster, but it also puts your data at extreme risk and no one should be using it.

To claim M.2 is gimmicky and then show Samsung's massively gimmicky RAM drive cache bullshit is way to ironic not to be a troll...
 
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Price really doesn't matter. Performance as well as new technology comes at a price. This drive will crush any SATA based SSD in read/write, that is all that matters. Your statement that M.2 drives don't read/write any faster than SATA drives is completely wrong, period. The SATA based M.2 drives don't, duh, but the PCI-E based drives definitely do.



Good for you, you managed to show me speeds of a RAM drive not a SATA SSD. Good luck with your corrupt data when the power goes out or the machine crashes.

The actual 840 Pro read/write speeds are at best 540/520. That is all you are getting, ever. Reading/writing to a RAM drive first won't change that, it make make benchmarks show faster, but it also puts your data at extreme risk and no one should be using it.

To claim M.2 is gimmicky and then show Samsung's massively gimmicky RAM drive cache bullshit is way to ironic not to be a troll...

..unless you RAID 0 2 or more :p
It may or may not catch on. (M.2)

Here's an M.2 drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G1S91339&cm_re=m.2_ssd-_-20-510-045-_-Product
a)You can only use 1
b) The speeds are less than 840 Pro @ 560/310Mbps
It could go the way of 1394 ..but I think it might catch on.
Price doesn't really matter? really? well go out and cop you one of those awesome M.2 $500 drives right now then. :rolleyes:
Put up or shut up.
Guy has $150 for a motherboard and you're suggesting $500 M.2 drives.
That makes sense..NOT.


I'm going to suggest this board as well..since it's back in stock: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...8408&cm_re=biostar_z97-_-13-138-408-_-Product
It will OC better than AsRock anything except OCF.OCF will overclock better...not the mATX this round though..

kind of like M7 gene> M7 Hero
 
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..unless you RAID 0 2 or more :p
It may or may not catch on. (M.2)

And then you double your failure rate. And often times increase the latency which make the drives in RAID0 actually fell slower than just a single drive. I know, I've tried it.

Here's an M.2 drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G1S91339&cm_re=m.2_ssd-_-20-510-045-_-Product
a)You can only use 1
b) The speeds are less than 840 Pro @ 560/310Mbps
It could go the way of 1394 ..but I think it might catch on.

Yes, that is a SATA based M.2 drive. I'll go over it again, even though I hate repeating myself just because people can't read. They won't be faster than a standard SATA drive because they use the same SATA interface and are hence limited by that SATA interface. The PCI-E M.2 drives, which are newer to the market, are a lot faster. You really need to actually do some research before posting your BS.

Price doesn't really matter? really? well go out and cop you one of those awesome M.2 $500 drives right now then. :rolleyes:
Put up or shut up.

For early adopters that want the absolute blazing fastest technology, no price generally doesn't matter. Personally, I can live with a standard SATA SSD right now. Also, the OP stated he has no intention of getting an SSD right now, so prices right now don't matter either. PCI-E M.2 drives are still new and still rare. Several manufacturers announced new drives at CES and are just now putting them in production. In a year they will likely be pretty close to the same price as the SATA SSDs. And finally, your statement was that M.2 drives aren't any faster than SATA drives. Price was not a factor in that statement. Yes, you mentioned price but I never argued that M.2 drives weren't more expensive. My argument is with your incorrect statement that M.2 drives aren't faster than SATA drives, and I've prove your statement was wrong, period.

Guy has $150 for a motherboard and you're suggesting $500 M.2 drives.
That makes sense..NOT.

I never suggested he get it, I gave you proof that your statement was wrong. It was proof of what M.2 is capable of, the prices will come down and the OP can make the decision when he is read to buy if a PCI-E based M.2 drive is worth it to him. However, I would agree with his opinion that getting a board with M.2 now is a good idea so he has the option to go that route when he does go for an SSD. Just like I think getting a board with SATA-Express is a good idea just in case that is the way to go in the future.

I'm going to suggest this board as well..since it's back in stock: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...8408&cm_re=biostar_z97-_-13-138-408-_-Product
It will OC better than AsRock anything except OCF.OCF will overclock better...not the mATX this round though..

kind of like M7 gene> M7 Hero

Back with the inferior Biostar board again?!? That board is garbage. It has weaker VRM than an Extreme4, less phases and worse components. We already went over this in the other thread. Not to mention it lacks a whole bunch of features. And on air, or an AOI liquid cooler, any decent z97 board will overclock a Haswell chip basically the same.

Guy has $150 for a motherboard and your suggesting $thousand for sub-zero cooling so he can see a difference in overclocking potential between motherboards.
That makes sense...NOT.
 
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Ok, Schmuckley you can move along now.

Newtekie1 has proven you are wrong and proven why I want M.2 and Sata-e.

The board you suggested doesn't have sata-e.

And besides the fact that, in the words of George Carlin, I wouldn't touch a Biostar board with a stolen d*(K.

Did you even bother to read what I needed or do you just troll suggesting Biostar boards while making totally inaccurate horse sh*t claims about things you obviously don't know anything about?

That board also doesn't have SLI support, which I clearly require.

If you are going to actually attempt to make a helpful post suggesting a motherboard I can actually use, then do so.

If you are just going to keep arguing about weather I need M.2 or not, because the fact is I want M.2 and Sata-e and that is all that matters, then please leave.

If you are just going to suggest Biostar motherboards, then please leave because I don't want to hear it.
 

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Where's this SATA Express port?
 
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That's an M.2 port. I'm talking SATA Express for off board drives

Since when do we need a PLX chip anyway? 3-4 way SLI is a waste...
 
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Support PCIe M.2 Connector
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=731
:/
Get your facts straight.
Screw it..buy an MSI "gaming" board for all I care :p
I guess you already know what motherboards are good,so why even post?
Myself,I'm looking to get an x99 Champion.
"interfaces provided through the M.2 connector, together with supported logical interfaces, are a superset to those defined by the SATA Express interface. Essentially, the M.2 standard is a small form factor implementation of the SATA Express interface"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2





As for finding a sub-$150 quality board with a PLX chip..good luck with that.
I'm done here.


M.2 =/= SATA Express

I've told you before, do some research. Just because they work in a similar way does not mean they are the same.
 
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Get your facts straight.

I asked you to either post something useful or leave.

You are very obviously the one that needs to get your facts straight.

Don't post again unless you actually have a shred of a clue about what you are posting.
 
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Gosh that escalated quite a bit

Uh oh boys, mods are here

I'm stilll going to point you towards the Z97-A and tell you to avoid the Gigabyte Z97s
 
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I'm stilll going to point you towards the Z97-A and tell you to avoid the Gigabyte Z97s



I too have also heard to stay away from Gigabyte's Z97 boards as well so I'd have to agree with you.

Edit: Spoke too soon regarding SLI support - Z97-A has that as well.. my mistake for not double checking.
 
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