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Should I Build an AM3+ or FM2+ Machine?

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  1. eidairaman1

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    Not thumb pad, thumb buttons

    by the way Im expecting my case and heatsink on Monday

    by the way Seasonic or Enermax PSU? 1000 Watt Unit (Going big on this rig)
     
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    a thumb pad is a set of thumb button for me (just like a numpad) so i mean the buttons G4 to G9 so i maintain my statement : now way they can feel mushy, unless the mouse has a fail, or has been used and over used (but even in that case that should be because of a fail >.< ) still, the choice of the Kone XTD is not bad at all since you palm it (the Pure would be a bit too small if you have same hands size as mine).

    PSU i would say Seasonic more than Enermax 1000watts is not that big (but still overkill xD )

    typical : 8350 mobo R9 290 + 1 HDD sata high 1 SSD 3 120mm 1 200mm BR-D/DVD-RW/CD-RW 2x8gb ram
    Minimum PSU Wattage:462 W
    Recommended
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    same but with a R9 290X
    Minimum PSU Wattage:512 W
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    same but both Xfire.
    290
    Minimum PSU Wattage:651 W
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    290X
    Minimum PSU Wattage:742 W
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    in any case even a 850w could hold the whole setup even if Xfired 290X and still have room for OC (GPU/CPU) but since you will not bother with OC (ref the original post :D ) 1000w should give you enough room for ... hum ...

    i think 1000w should really be overkill ... i have read somewhere, that having too much room is not as good as we think (ie : about the efficency under low load) but good unit as the Seasonic one i dont think it would matter.
     
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    I went with the Gskill snipers for my fx build. Great memory. I also used the Gigabyte 990fxa Ud3 and a Fx 8350. It's clocked at 4.4 and like Norton, crunches 24/7 at full load rock stable with xfired 7850's. Plays any game like butter I throw at it.
     
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    Hey mad thanks for your sense, i have my board already but if it doesnt perform well ill switch to the ud3- gray model
     
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    Got my Ram today, all thats left now is, SSD, HDD, PSU, GPU, Sound, Mouse Keyboard and 6 more fans
     
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    I need a suggestion on a 290/290X

    http://www.powercolor.com/Global/products_features.asp?id=522
    http://www.powercolor.com/Global/products_features.asp?id=523
    http://products.xfxforce.com/en-us/Graphics_Cards/AMD_Radeon™_R9_290X/R9-290X-EDBD
    http://products.xfxforce.com/en-us/Graphics_Cards/AMD_Radeon™_R9_290/R9-290A-EDBD
    http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1227&pid=2090&psn=&lid=1&leg=0
    http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1227&pid=2091&psn=&lid=1&leg=0
    http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4919#ov
    http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4920#ov
    http://www.msi.com/product/vga/R9_290X_GAMING_4G.html#overview
    http://www.msi.com/product/vga/R9_290_GAMING_4G.html#overview

    Now if MSI wasnt wasting time on the 290X/290 Lightning -id look at that one aswell (whenever it comes out.

    Or should i just get a Factory unit and slap a cooler on it?

    I Personally feel the XFX Black Editions Looks Clean and Slick, the Windforce, Sapphire TriX, Power Color PCS+ look like they can push some major air. The MSI Gaming Look somewhat like the XFX Cards. Just unsure what to get,

    Bear In Mind i Have a huge tower case so stuffing 2 of these isnt a problem at all.
     
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    The Windforce cards are awesome they run really cool and quite by default and with a bit of tweaking they can run a lot cooler/faster and not much louder. The one review of the XFX card that I have seen showed that the XFX card had crap temps.
     
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    yeah once i get all the other parts ill be looking, the Powercolor looks Very strong, less lightning comes out
     
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    Heres another Bump

    I Just purchased a Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD as my primary Drive, I might Get 2-4 500 Gig 840 Evos Next, or should i go with a HDD for my secondary Storage?

    I just did a basic psu calculation with a full load of hardware without being watercooled and it calls for 934Watts of power basically, Id probably get a 1250 Watt Seasonic Unit
     
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    storage: i use a 120gb SSD as main and a plain 500gb 7200rpm sata2 for game folder + a 500gb 5400rpm green sata2 for the less used data (films, pics and other) well while the OS boot faster, for game i notice no "big improvement" wether i install it on the SSD or on the 7200rpm (and even less if i use my 150gb 10k rpm Velociraptor, but i keep it for another build)

    for the watt : WHAT? with a 8350(no oc) 4 ddr3 stick 2 R9 290X 1SSD 1 high rpm sata 1 SSD 3 140mm led and 2 250mm led + water cooling pump i get that
    Minimum PSU Wattage:758 W
    Recommended
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    and the recommended is also a "exaggerated" number ...

    if i oc to 5ghz and remove the HDD for 2 SSD more
    Minimum PSU Wattage:774 W
    Recommended
    PSU Wattage:
    *[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

    keep in mind you never reach 100% load so calculation at 90% load is the standard

    but a 100% load of the last i did put would give
    Minimum PSU Wattage:860 W
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    i dont know where you get your 24w and without Water cooling in the calculation


    even my SG09B could stuff 2 of them :D ... if it could handle a Watercooling setup that is ...:rolleyes:
    also i know it's too late but MSI R9 290 Gaming OC (or the X variante) are awesome (XFX i had once, and i will never retake one) the Lightning is good but the premium asked for it does not make it worth over the Gaming OC serie (and the TFIV is by far one of the best cooling solution, Silence/temp ratio)
     
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    My case supports 6-7 140 mm fans. I have room for wc though. Ill eventually do that. By the way I just seen the review of the Powercolor PCS+ 290X, it might OC the highest out of the bunch but It does it on a Trislot cooler- Im looking soley for a dual slot cooler unfortunately, So i Guess its down to Sapphire or MSI, less i just say screw it and get a ref design and slap a cooler from arctic or gelid on it. I just seen the MSI Lightning 290X aswell- its a trislot cooler too, so i guess onlyway to get the heavy hitters is to go trislot...

     
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    you know ... those trislot bring nothing more really ... i had 2 ASUS GTX580 Matrix Platinum 1.5gb trislot reinforced powerphases "special OC ... well they OC quite normal just 1-5% variance with a "stock blower" 580 even on water they are not worth the premium added on them, if i recommend the MSI R9 290X Gaming OC 4gb it is because it's a heavy hitter... if i take the R9 290 (non X) from them : performance wise only dual gpu solution are above her and in single GPU (if we except the Titan/Titan black) its only the 780Ti, and it is for the non X variante ... (oh and we also have a R9 290 on the chart from Sapphire who score 12pts more in firestrike extreme and do 0.33fps less in Metro LL...).
    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    as for the PSU technically even with 7 fan, i had a setup with 12 fan if counting 2 fan for a H70 with the i7 920 @ 4.4 + the 2 GTX580 Matrix all that on a mere 700w 80+gold PSU, a 1000w would be sufficient for a CFX of 290X, 1500w would be overkill, you know not enough watts = problems, too much watts above the typical load (100% or 90% no matters) = less efficiency.
     
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    I recall that a machine will only use what it needs but its nice to have it when its needed lol
     
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    I vote INSANITY!!! moahahahah jk

    AM3+ and this is coming from a dear amd fan for life. I just got sucked into the intel crap lol
     
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    Ok-

    Heres what I have
    AMD AM3+ FX8350
    Asus 990FX TUF Sabertooth R2
    16GB GSkill Ripjaws X 2133 DDR3
    Samsung 840 Pro 256
    AeroCool XPredator Evil Blue Edition Case
    Scythe Ashura
    Arctic Cooling MX4
    Windows 7 Pro 64

    On the Way-2x230 Bitfenix Spectre Pro LED (Green, Blue)
    4x 140 (Green,Blue)

    Still Need to Buy

    PSU (Enermax, Seasonic, Corsair)
    HDD or another SSD (or 2, possibly RAID)
    Sound Blaster
    MSI Gamer 290X/Sapphire Vapor-X
    Ducky Channel Shine 3
    Logitech G500s/Roccat Kone XTD
     
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    Looking good so far. When do you expect to get the rest of the items purchased?
     
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    Im purchasing them month by month or paycheck by paycheck so i can balance it out. The psu and gpu will be last due to how pricey they will be.

    I did some specs measurements the scythe ashura definitely fits in the case along with 4 panel pans. This case i can watercool easily (whats the point if everything else needs airglow just to not burn up???
     
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    Evga SuperNova P2 1000w.
     
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    Werent the SuperNovas Problematic?
     
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    Not from what I understand. Reviewed amazingly at JonnyGURU.
     
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    Got 5 of my 8 Fans going into the case, all bitfenix Spectre Pro LED Green Blue, waiting on Frozen CPU to ship the last 3
     
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    Well I have All 8 Fans- All BitFenix Spectre Pro LEDs (2x230 1xBlue 1xGreen)(6x140 3xBlue 3xGreen)
    Just Purchased the Roccat RYOS MK Pro

    All that is Left is
    Secondary HDD/s or SSD/s (Seagate Enterprise or Samsung 840 Pro/Evos)
    Blue Ray Optical Drives (Pioneer)
    Power Supply (1500 Seasonic)
    Video Card (MSI Gamer 290 or VaporX 290)
    Sound Card (SB ZXR)
    Mouse (Roccat Kone XTD or Logitech G500s)
     
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    I Now have the Roccat RYOS MK Pro Brown Switch, those switches feel nicer than whats on my laptop.

    I have a question- Is it worth it getting Hybrid Harddrives (SSHDs)?
    the 750GB 840 EVO i looked at is way too out of my range right now since I do have the 256GB 840 PRO

    Should I go with a Sapphire Radeon Vapor X 290 or the MSI Gaming 290?
     
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    Anyone???
     
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    I have a seagate sshd as a games drive (3xssd for os and games too) and I would say they are ok for games and appear in most cases to be quite fast and in loading games etc , I've no quarms recommending one for a second drive.
    I have used itas a boot drive in my steam box and it was ok at that too just not as good as a ssd.
     
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