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New On-Demand Gaming Platform Threatens to Kill Gaming PC Upgrades

Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Mar 25, 2009.

  1. OnBoard

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    Well they claim this:
    What about lag, you say? OnLive's technology "incubator" Rearden Studios claims that its servers will deliver video feeds that have a ping of less than one millisecond. Its patented video compression technique is also advertised as blazing fast, with video compression taking about one millisecond to process.

    and this:
    Expected to be deployed by launch will be five server centers hosting the latest and greatest games—OnLive isn't aiming to be GameTap, with no immediate plans to host archival PC games. Server clusters will be located in Santa Clara, Texas, Virginia and elsewhere, hoping to offer OnLive subscribers within 1,000 miles a seemingly lag-free experience.

    If in some miracle it would work it would still be USA only and only for those around the server farms. One of these OnLive miracle farms could theoretically serve whole Scandinavia if they'd stick it to like Umeå - Sweden.

    Highly skeptical about this, like you all. Firstly all the servers would need to be located in McMurdo - Antarctica, to keep the thousands of servers cool running Crysis 24/7 for thousands of people. Down side would be that only people in the 1000miles range would be the scientist, but at least they'd keep warm :)
     
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    Its not the server ping that would be the problem, its the connection to the server.

    Imagine the lag if you're on wireless in the other end of the building to the router, which is connected to an ADSL modem, miles away from the local exchange.

    It'd be a nightmare!
     
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    all they are doing in theory is sending a video to your tv and you are sending the controls back through the internet

    in theory this could work client side but at server end theyd need a lot of hardware and the network would get bogged down
     
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    meh . . .

    I'd much rather keep my PC - at least I can tweak, adjust, modify my games. Sometimes, being able to modify a game, and play using other user's mods, makes the game really feel like it was worth the $50+


    as to the bandwidth caps . . . oh, yeah! We only have two hi-speed providers here, and I can tell you that Cox Communications already caps user's speed, on top of having to deal with their ridiculous latency.

    I think this kind of tech can win over the console communities . . . but I doubt it'd really make a dent in the PC gaming communities.
     
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    Thats like what I said earlier, its just an interactive film.

    I like amazing graphics cus I'm watching them be generated in real time, but stuff I have spent my hard earned money on.
     
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    Ping, latency or whatever you want to call it, is going to make this a complete no-go.

    On a good day this *might* work for slow games (like some RPGs and MMO games)


    The internet is going to have to take a giant leap forward first.
     
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    If it had PS3 games, I could try a card like that to get a Gran Turismo 5 fix :) It's the consoles you can't upgrade, nor play old games with.
     
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    That reminds me, when I used to play EVE, the lag on that was unbearable at times. And all that had to communicate was the commands!
     
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    I love tinkering with my PC way to much to switch to something like this. Its an expensive hobby to have, but its one of the few I truly enjoy.
     
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    Here is a hands on "review". Yall are welcome :D

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    so instead of paying tons of cash for my rig (and making something unique), now you can buy one of these boxes and pay all that cash for a good enough ISP instead :p
     
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    In Soviet interwebz, games play you.
     
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    = FAIL
     
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    You only need one of those boxes for the TV(Microconsole), it comes with only an HDMI port on it but they said you may use a converter for SDTV's. If your using your OnLive account on a PC you don't need that box, its instead a plugin.
     
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    Great idea and alternative for the softcore pc gamer who does not want to mess with upgrades. I sense a lot of negativity in this thread towards this idea. Actually it could help the PC Gaming market. It may pull in more game developers. I really doubt, for the immediate future, that it would "kill gaming pc upgrades". It may however light a fire under the arses of the two major graphics card makers to get more innovative with their products and release schedules.
     
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    LOL!!! love it, to quote....a cartoon...in soviet russia..car drives you..anyhow

    i see major problems, dsl it no gonna be able to push this, alot of people are not gonna wanna play for that 1.5mb line, im pretty sure one of there precausiongs if you start to lag is that the visual quality of the game decreases kinda like streaming netflix to your computer or tv from your 360, all this crap i would rather have my leet computer and play my game and be able to mod it and have all the fun.
     
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    unfortunately, in order to have smooth gameplay, most people will need to significantly upgrade their internet bandwidth, and since that is a recurring monthly cost, you'd probably just be better off spending the money on a beefy computer/parts.
     
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    "The Beginning of the End."
    God dammit this sucks.
     
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    Why are you so worried? As long as upgrades are being bought as well as the conventional means of game purchases, why would they bail out on that pot of gold?
     
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    fortunately, this will probably be the end of consoles and not pc.
    pc gaming cannot be replaced. consoles have been the biggest threat to pc gaming, and look at how many people do both or are pc-only.
    honestly, i see this as just another console. the hardcore gamer will stick with pc, while the people who have a console that want to play pc-only games but don't want to sink $1000 or more in a top of the line system will settle for one of these.
     
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    Because the reason I like PC games over console games is the graphical and framerate quality. I can't stand anything under 50fps.. I doubt this thing could push out 1920x1080 8x AA and still pump out 50-60fps solid like my rig can :ohwell:

    And if you think no one is going to jump on it.. Just wait until all the console people start seeing that they can play Crysis.....
     
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    You missed my point completely. As long as you and I keep buying our upgrades and there is a market for pc gaming, it wont go away. :)
     
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    As long as people are willing to pay for something, it will continue to sell. This will not completely replace what we have now (if it succeeds at all) until it can indeed provide an equivalent visual experience to gaming rigs, b/c if it doesn't, there will still be a demand for gaming rigs, thus they will still be sold. When network constraints allow perhaps it could do even better than your rig could, and much cheaper. ;)
     
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    I guess you guys are right, I just don't like the idea at all. It's just getting me worried..
     

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