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New York Begins Investigation of Intel

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    New York state launched a formal investigation of Intel Corp on Thursday, to determine if the world's No. 1 chipmaker broke state and U.S. antitrust laws to squeeze out its main rival, Advanced Micro Devices (AMD). New York state Attorney General Andrew Cuomo said his office issued a broad subpoena seeking information about whether Intel coerced customers to exclude AMD from the worldwide market for microprocessors. "Our investigation is focused on determining whether Intel has improperly used monopoly power to exclude competitors or stifle innovation," Cuomo said in a statement. Intel spokesman Chuck Mulloy confirmed the company had received the subpoena and would "work very hard" to comply with the subpoena, in keeping with its normal practice. "We believe our business practices are lawful and that the microprocessor market is competitive and is functioning as one would expect a competitive market to function," Mulloy said. AMD said it had been contacted by Cuomo's office. "I can confirm that we have received a subpoena, too," said spokesman Drew Prairie.

    Source: Reuters
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    wtf? man fuck amd ! the cant have it that intel is way more faster with processors!
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    so, they are investigating them because they wern't sure if they broke the law or not trying to beat out AMD? :confused::confused::confused:
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    Will it be also true that we will see no more COKE fridge freezers given away to local shops to "lock them into the brand" and "lock them out of others".
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    I like how everyone forgets how long this has been in the making. It's nothing new, but every few years the opinion changes dependent on who has the top dogg processors. Intel now might not be the same as the Intel then, but it doesn't make em clean of wrongdoing. Cases like this take years, now we have something coming to the foreground (and likely another 9-12 months before a resolution), yet strangely people act like Intel did nothing wrong! 2 years ago this sentiment was different. As it is, if Intel did anything wrong, they'll be held accountable for it.

    Love em for their processors, but don't try to justify whether or not they did wrong. Even if they get charged the 60 billion that was alleged, they're not going to go under because of it.
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    i dont think amd really cares they didnt file it.
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    Funny how complaints and such arise when Intel takes the market from AMD even more. Its obviously due to the fact that Intel has no taken the Desktop market by storm due to its Core 2 Duos. Now AMD in the hole after buying ATI and unsuccessfully keeping up with the high end market, as well as losing in the high end desktop market is making complaints of a monopoly. This NY is investigating it.

    I pray to god its not true because I don't want AMD to become the leader considering they arn't the leader in performance. Not a Bash on AMD, its just the way I see it and its the way it seems to be.
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    This has nothing to do with how popular Intel CPU's are right now... they are trying to find out if Intel "FORCED" companies like Dell to only sell PCs with an Intel CPU. If you all remember, Dell did not sell an AMD based PC for a long, long time... even though there was strong demand for them a few years back.

    No matter what the outcome is, I doubt it will affect Intel or AMD very much. These lawsuits are going on all the time. :wtf:
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    I could restate things that I've said already, or kindly ask you to read up on the subject.

    The claims were made a couple years ago. They date from '96-06. This really has nothing to do with the current market. Little to do with the high-end desktop market, or any high-end market. Intel (allegedly) pressured OEM system builders (HP, Dell, Packard-Bell, etc..) into refusing AMD processors. They backed up this pressure with threats of pulling discounts, and then added pressure by increasing discounts for companies that didn't carry AMD. What sounds like good marketing and holding back the competition, actually breaks quite a few long-standing laws based on the principles of fair competition.

    AMD, in the time presented, had very competitive processors and we very competitively priced. OEM system builders did not include them as even an OPTION for many years, even though they were cheaper and equivalent (some daresay better) in performance than Intel. AMD even went so far as to give FREE processors, only to get turned down by the OEMs.

    Don't assume that this case has anything to do with them falling behind, and being in debt. There's a lot more to it than trying to get a free ride from Intel.
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    You couldn't be farther from understanding what all this is about. I could give you charts, and graphs, and news stories dating back years to help you understand, but I have the nagging suspicion that it would be a waste of my time.
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    i did read it all or i'm mis understanding it
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    F*ck Intel!!!

    They were fucking us with the prices when AMD was not on the Scene...

    When AMD came to the secene with S939 Processors Intel just F*CKED UP! And had to lower the prices!

    At that time Intel started to use its marketing ^^capabilities^^ to surpass AMD...

    BTW Neither AMD nor Intel should be alone on the market! I know if AMD gets alone he will f*ck us too...
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    Here's a snippet...

    Summer 2005.
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    I hate how any computer advertised on TV will have the BIG SCREEN FILLING 'Intel Inside' which is brain washing customers. I bet if AMD did that Intel would throw the teddy out the cot.
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    Maybe they should sue Intel for 1 Trillion. That would scare the crap out of them and then Intel could maybe change or go out of business.
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    Nah, they'd still be around. Make up the debt they go into in about a year...
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    Thanks for putting this together!! There was a lot of stuff in there that I never knew about. ;)
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    It has nothing to do with processors, but it has to do with what Intel does behind the curtain. Silverel listed all that in a post above.
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    ah companies have been using anti-competition strategies since day one, just another example that'll end in a small payoff and then back to business and screwing the consumer for every available penny as normal
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    Thank you for putting up some data on the subject.

    This has been going on for a while people, probably on both sides, but Intel being the "Market Leader" and the bigger company. Just like Microsoft, has to be the "bigger company" and fight fairly because of their advantage. Microsoft is now an antitrust company and if Intel doesn't play this smart they may be TOO!
    It happens in every industry but right now technology is the biggest ($$) industry.
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    too little too late.

    this has happered amd enough for intel to take the mantle back.

    just hope that they get a nice payout and horowitz and his team give amd a real core2duo beater soon.
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    I know back in 2000, I bought a Gateway Computer with an AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1200mhz proc in it. 6 months later, they didnt offer any AMD procs at all on any systems. Only time Gateway did offer AMD procs (besides here in the last year or so) was on QVC,HSN and shit like that. So, Id say Intel had something to do with it. But, if AMD cant get back on the Athlon 64 roll it had, it wont matter whats ruled.
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    It's pretty difficult to enlighten anybody who has an emotional investment in their point of view. I wouldn't bother. That goes for all of the responses that seem to have a "my team is better" point of view. Silverel did a pretty good job of explaining the situation.

    We all root for teams, I get it. We have our favorites. But when people hope or wish competition is wiped out in favor of their 'team' they only do themselves harm.
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