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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Won't be $500 Cheap: Report

Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, May 2, 2013.

  1. Bjorn_Of_Iceland

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    It is on a league of its own indeed. Much like 8800GTX was priced back then.. so I am not surprised about this one which smashes current AMD gpu.
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    Now I feel kinda glad that I went all-out for the 6xx series. See you again when 8xx comes, NV.
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    It's cheap when Daddy's paying it. :laugh:
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    A single Titan consumes less power than a 7970GHz, while soundly beating it in performance, am I missing something here? :confused:

    As for this rumor, well who knows what Nvidia is planning for the 780, the fact is a cut down version of the GK110 exists (AKA Titan LE) and this has been rumored to be the 780 for quite a while now, I don't see the green team charging $500 for it, particularly not with AMD being late to the party.

    This is business as usual, anyone here remembers the original 7970 selling for $550 on release date while offering a minor performance improvement over the previous generation, just because Kepler was delayed? how about the 8800 Ultra retailing for $800 just because AMD didn't have any card remotely close to it in terms of performance when it was released?

    Both companies play this game, and will for the foreseeable future... it's called capitalism, and if any of you guys think one team cares less about profits than the other, let me tell you, you're being delusional :laugh:

    Anyways, my prediction is Nvidia releases the GTX780 (Titan LE) for $600~700, the Titan Ultra for $1000, and lowers the MSRP of the regular Titan to $850~$900, Then AMD releases the HD8000 series later this year at a much lower retail price, undercutting Nvidia and bursting its bubble :nutkick:
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  5. ViperXTR

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    hard times for Intel back then
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    LOL, nVidia is either going for a quick cash grab before the new consoles and AMD's software dominance (kinda smart, but IDK...) ...OR is just braindead and really wants to commit financial suicide. Are they that confident in the mobile market?

    Remember Intel is also pushing faster and faster integrated graphics, do you really think someone will pay 650$ for 150-200% more FPS? The price/performance gaps are widening... and make no sense.
  7. lilhasselhoffer

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    I don't care any more. Nvidea is price gouging, and people are eating it up. I'm tired of hearing this story again and again.


    Nvidea and AMD are creeping prices up every generation. A $500 expenditure two generations ago got you one heck of an amazing card. The 5xx series versus the 6xxx series, I can't see anyone asking for the "low price of $500" for any single GPU card without being asked what a "reasonable" price might be.


    Now we've got Titan. It costs $1000 out of the gate, and it doesn't perform twice as good as a $500 card. Nvidea wants to release another generation of cards so shortly after introducing Titan, and have its new flagship more expensive than the last generation's flagship. Get real. If I buy the flagship model from Nvidea I want something more reasonable.


    I understand that research costs money. They used that explanation last generation. I understand silicon yields aren't great. They've had a year to find ways to fix that. I understand that they are currently beating out AMD in performance. A Lamborghini beats out a Hyundai on acceleration, but that doesn't mean the price difference at several orders of magnitude is worth it.

    I like AMD's approach. You won't get new silicon this year, but when we release next year it will be worth spending money on. It makes me tech loving side's nuts blue, but the actual release will be so much better for the wait. Hopefully Nvidea can come along and give AMD even competition then, so that prices don't just wildly swing in favor of a different manufacturer.
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    Oh really!?

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    And as long as it doesn't beat the Radeon in every scenario (like DiRT Showdown) and only edges it a lot of cases (like Max Payne 3, Sleeping Dogs, Metro 2033 etc), I wouldn't say "soundly" ...especially when its 125%+ more expensive, thank you.



    Sooo... this is year is going to be a disaster for high end gaming I reckon? same 400-550$ GPUs from a year and a half ago... no performance bumps (ignoring the ones trough driver updates) and if you want more, guess what, you have to go into the thousands of bucks... f off nVidia and f off AMD.
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    This ^^ for me? I understand perfectly well how the market works. I'm not even 35 and have been "retired" for the last 6 years. What do you do? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    2nd part of your comment, a 5870/480 is still plenty to play. For majority of consumers. So the last 2 gens could have been skipped, if one desired. To be honest. Ports are AWESOME! :cool:

    Could have even skipped the last couple gens of CPUs if all a person does is game...

    It aint 2001 anymore! Anything over $500/$600 for a GFX is straight up robbery. If you want to stroke your epeen by dishing out egregious amounts of $$$ for a GFX card, go right ahead! :laugh:

    7950 @ ~$300 with the current game bundle is the best deal going ATM. Truth be told, the 7950 has been roughly that price since last spring/early summer. I picked up my TwinFrozr for $315 after MIR last June/July! :pimp:

    Couple quotations:

    "A sucker is born every minute"

    "A fool, and his money, are easily seperated"
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  10. cdawall where the hell are my stars

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    Bad comparison considering the worse performing P4's cost the same amount. AMD hit the same price points with a better product then. Now they hit a better bang for the buck price point.

    Hence why I still have a set of GTX470's back home. Work well and only cost electricity. I purchased a 7950 recently for less than what you paid since they are a great deal. Probably the best deal on the market right now.
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    This is usually the case for AMD/ATi, and people bitch them out for it! :roll:
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    If there wasn't a joke I missed, I'm really curious what you do.
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    Nothing. That was the point. I'm retired. :laugh::laugh:
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    From W1zzard's own GTX Titan review you can find in the TPU website:

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    7970 GHz beat by Titan in terms of power consumption in every single scenario

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    7970 GHz soundly beat by Titan in relative performance in every single resolution (and that's even before the whole FCAT fiasco that would make the 7970 real numbers look even worse)

    I rest my case.

    P.S. Anyways, I would recommend anyone waiting to upgrade to a new card to wait for the HD8000 series or Maxwell if you want to make your upgrade worthwhile.
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    Wow, just even longer I have to wait to upgrade. Will have to sit and wait to nab a decent priced 680 when the time is right...... At the prices of these Titans and 7xx series it's looking like a long wait for me.
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    I too am waiting for the 7xx series arrival to see how much prices will lower on the 670 in particular. Not that I *need* another 670 :D
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    More I think about it Titan has done exactly what Nvidia wanted it to do. They got GK110 production parts to release Tesla and its lesser variant to market, but had chips that don't make the grade. (There's nothing wrong with that… that's a reality). The problem how can they create enough demand in the gaming world to justify the price that recoups their costs, without giving them away. Sure they could sell a Titan LE for $600 make nothing and watch them all go flying out the door.

    I think Nvidia knew if they used some of the Tesla offerings in a Premium Gaming offering, provide a card for every "Tom, Dick, and Harry reviewer" they could create enough of salivating-buzz to make it worthwhile. They saw they could find enough Uber market buyers pay for board PCB/cooler development, at a price/volume they could get them bought up, while justifying the stratospheric price. What Nvidia really wanted was the advertising and marketing to vindicating $1000 single chip card, while not sacrificing a ton of loss per chip. (I wonder how many of the reviewers of Titans' got to keep one?)

    This then sets a precedence that a card that's 15-20% less performance is a good deal at $750? Now Nvidia has a path to selling gelded GK110 as GTX780's. If a year ago Nvidia would've said, we have a GK110 card that's 15-20% better than a GTX680, but it's $700 would folks been as excited... I think not! Now all they need to do is just keep feeding a few Titan to market, as now they're not really needed because whoever wanted one have one. While those not as ostentatious with money can/will spend $250-300 less and feel great. Nvidia won't look to EoL Titan, but with this news it kind of is. Now Nvidia can go back selling those chip as high margin Tesla, Titan has done its' job...
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  18. radrok

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    I think they have a VERY good margin selling 2688 Titans.
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    But not anything approaching what that 2688 chip brings in a Tesla K20x form.
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    I don't think they are using low leakage GK110 for Titans at all so there is no problem if it's like that.

    In theory GK110 that do not meet the voltage requirements for K20x go into Titan.
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    ^^ No surprise on the rebranding, at least they throw in a "modded" cooler this time :roll:

    Whats the window for? To keep an eye on dust? Just blow the damn thing out every few months :shadedshu :laugh:

    At the price they're asking, it fookin better! :laugh:
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    What if the 780 is not based on GK110?
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    bta did a Ninja? :wtf:
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    True enough. If anything Titan GPUs are high leakage. GK 110's that aren't specced to operate within the 235W (K20X) thermal envelope reliably
    And probably another layer of binning for error detection/ run-time validations. Can't clear the Tesla/Quadro qualification bar? Hello GeForce!

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