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I think with that Rig you can actually go to Newegg.com and buy 2 x HD 2900 Pro 256bit and still be good on the power and save a huge amount of money. 2 x HD 2900 Pro 512mb 256bit = $300 - $15 MIR since its only 1 per household.

And if you clock it up to 750/1000 you be more then happy i think. Peformance is quiet similar to the HD 3870 at same speeds other then no DDR4, no DX 10.1 and a little bid more power usage.

this is the way I'd go now :rockout:
 
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I picked up an HD 3870 X2 and all I can say is wow.
16270 on 3D Mark 06 at 1280x1024 with the Drivers that came on the disc. It is pretty fast but need to do some proper benchmarking and I will post my results.

So far I think it was totally worth it.
 

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I picked up an HD 3870 X2 and all I can say is wow.
16270 on 3D Mark 06 at 1280x1024 with the Drivers that came on the disc. It is pretty fast but need to do some proper benchmarking and I will post my results.

So far I think it was totally worth it.

Sweet, i would like to see a nice benchmark with full AA/AF on 1680 x 1050 thats my monitor resolution or even 1920 x 1200.
 
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ati has the lead with its x2, its even faster than te ultra but still, even if its faster now in a few months it won't and you guys will feel a little screwed

including myself
 

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ati has the lead with its x2, its even faster than te ultra but still, even if its faster now in a few months it won't and you guys will feel a little screwed

including myself

erratic lead. Kinda waiting on drivers to see which is faster - 9800GX2 or ATI 3870 x2
 

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hey bud, thanks for the input, that system does sound like a dream come true and I can afford it when taxes come around(I save my taxes every year for my computer).

I am alittle worried about the 780 chipset though, from what i have read its a good OCer but not a great OCer. Im liking the x48 because it has shown to have great potential and OC's out the roof! I was thinkin of pairing it with a 8800gts and just being happy with one video card. In all honesty I was pretty happy with my game play when I had just a single 3870.

Yeah, the 780i is not as great of an overclocker as the x38 but it does quite well and SLI is the reason I bought it. I like all of the current high end hardware weather its made by Intel, Nvidia, AMD or whoever. It just depends on your liking and budget. Right now I went with the Nvidia setup. Next time it may be Intel with Crossfire. I like the look of things to come.
 
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Yeah, the 780i is not as great of an overclocker as the x38 but it does quite well and SLI is the reason I bought it. I like all of the current high end hardware weather its made by Intel, Nvidia, AMD or whoever. It just depends on your liking and budget. Right now I went with the Nvidia setup. Next time it may be Intel with Crossfire. I like the look of things to come.

Im more of a CPU junkie than graphics, I like to push procs as high as I can. When i get my new stuff Im gonna try to make it a silent case also, Im gonna put TEC on the proc and water the graphics and use all 120mm fans on a fan controller. Hopefully the loop will be cool enough with my 2 radz. I never used to mind the noise but having my computer off the last few days(I decided I wont turn it back on till I get my new Graphics) I have realized how nice and quiet it is! Im thinking I can keep the GPU under 50@load and the proc more than cool enough with the TEC.

I think I have decided on this,
x48 rampage formula(please hurry up and come out so I can do this already!!!!)
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wether or not the 8800U costs $6xx and the X2 @ $4xx, the fact remains that the G80 has been out almost a year and a half, which means, that nobody will buy one now over a G92 or X2, but if theyve already got one, then whats the point in upgrading at all?

not to mention i think the 384 bit 768 megs of ram will keep the G80 chopping for a while. whereas even with dual gpu the X2 only has 2x512 and 2x256 bit, so each gpu can still only adress that much at once.

i believe benching an 8800U against an X2 in 1-2 years will show whom is meatyer, although on that note, then X2 might come ahead with its 640 combined shaders...only time will tell.

in any case people, like ive said before, both companies rock hardcore, and even if your a fanboy either way, you couldnt be if it werent for the other company exisitng, so take the good with the bad, and dont just bag the company you dont like, jsut because you dont like them, have a reason!
 
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wether or not the 8800U costs $6xx and the X2 @ $4xx, the fact remains that the G80 has been out almost a year and a half, which means, that nobody will buy one now over a G92 or X2, but if theyve already got one, then whats the point in upgrading at all?

not to mention i think the 384 bit 768 megs of ram will keep the G80 chopping for a while. whereas even with dual gpu the X2 only has 2x512 and 2x256 bit, so each gpu can still only adress that much at once.

i believe benching an 8800U against an X2 in 1-2 years will show whom is meatyer, although on that note, then X2 might come ahead with its 640 combined shaders...only time will tell.

in any case people, like ive said before, both companies rock hardcore, and even if your a fanboy either way, you couldnt be if it werent for the other company exisitng, so take the good with the bad, and dont just bag the company you dont like, jsut because you dont like them, have a reason!

this forum hasnt been about fanboi's or bashing the other, its simply to help me figure out what I should go with. I love the competition, its what makes my prices less and my parts faster! Nvidia has held the crown for quite some time, and I dont believe that the x2 is "faster" but I know it can hold its own. When you talk price, hey, cant go wrong with a x2. And if money is no object, then go ultra.

But money is an object for me, and thats why Im thinking I can take a single g92 GTS and be happy, I like to OC and Im sure I can get some damn good results from a GTS. So Im 90% set on a GTS. It will be my first Nvidia card since my SLI 7800GTX rig. That was fun but it wasnt really that great for what I paid. Jeez, the g92 GTS is twice as fast as the 2 7800's.

I love the competetion. There's no problem with liking a brand though, its no different than a ford guy and a chevy guy arguing. Thats what keeps the companies supplyin their customers with what they want. This will go on forever and complaining about it just adds fuel to the fire
 

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as long as its all friendly banter, when people get their knickers in such a twist about who's better, then its just getting silly.

i think youll be happy with a G92GTS, with the fan on 100% you could get 800 core/2000 shaders outta that baby and really watch her fly.

and dont get me wrong, competition is great, keeps the prices right, which is why at the moment i cannot slag any company, becuase (bar the G80 if you can still get it) anything you can buy should be priced to how it performs, and in the end, what more can you ask for? no matter what you pay, you get what you pay for.

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as long as its all friendly banter, when people get their knickers in such a twist about who's better, then its just getting silly.

i think youll be happy with a G92GTS, with the fan on 100% you could get 800 core/2000 shaders outta that baby and really watch her fly.

and dont get me wrong, competition is great, keeps the prices right, which is why at the moment i cannot slag any company, becuase (bar the G80 if you can still get it) anything you can buy should be priced to how it performs, and in the end, what more can you ask for? no matter what you pay, you get what you pay for.

wolf.

always water cooled, I hate seeing how hot GPU's get! I hate temps above 50 so it drives me to WC everything!
 

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1337 dude, should get ripping speeds out of it, hey dya mind sending the stock GTS cooler to australia? from what i hear itll fit a GT :D
 
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1337 dude, should get ripping speeds out of it, hey dya mind sending the stock GTS cooler to australia? from what i hear itll fit a GT :D

not at all, Ill be getting my stuff in the next few weeks, waiting on the tax returns.

Heard any good recomendations on a good water block for the g92?
 

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nah man ive never water cooled so iunno about that stuff really, but if your seriously up for sending the stocko cooler to aus ill be happy to organize that wit ya.

good to see your going with the G92GTS mang, the only faults i could point out with the G92's atm is the somewhat narrow memory bus (which doesn't really seem to hinder performance) and the fact it only has 16 ROPS, but if you get the core to around 800MHZ it should have as much AA grunt as a G80GTX/U anyway.

i mean i have a GT at 720 core and i can run 8-16x CSAA or MSAA no problems in over 90% of games i play. plays damn nice v-synced to 75hz too.
 
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nah man ive never water cooled so iunno about that stuff really, but if your seriously up for sending the stocko cooler to aus ill be happy to organize that wit ya.

good to see your going with the G92GTS mang, the only faults i could point out with the G92's atm is the somewhat narrow memory bus (which doesn't really seem to hinder performance) and the fact it only has 16 ROPS, but if you get the core to around 800MHZ it should have as much AA grunt as a G80GTX/U anyway.

i mean i have a GT at 720 core and i can run 8-16x CSAA or MSAA no problems in over 90% of games i play. plays damn nice v-synced to 75hz too.

very nice, I have put together my parts, and Im going with the same company VGA block as the 3870 block I have, which by the way I will be selling that. So when I get the parts this month I will PM you. I have no prob sending it out
 
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ohh and I looked into it, the cooler should fit perfectly fine on the GT, its the same mounting when it comes to the water block so I dont see why not.
 

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oh thats sweet man, cheers aye. right now at 100% fan it stays under 65 degrees, but its noisy, so this one would do better and be able to run at ~80% i guess.

and itll look like a GTS :p which is cool because with my bios its as good as on par with a G92GTS, i can even make the bios post for the card say its a GTS, but i think GPU-Z wouldnt be fooled, but still, the illusion will be complete!
 
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hell your probably running faster than a GTS would at stock anyways!

Now its just a waiting game for the tax return.

So how does this GTS look?

And will my tru-power 550 hold up with this card? I dont see why not??
 
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does anyone know if certain brands OC better than others, and if so, could someone recommend one???
 

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looks like a beast :D
id say for 1 card 550w should be plenty unless you have HEAPS of fans and drives :p
 
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looks like a beast :D
id say for 1 card 550w should be plenty unless you have HEAPS of fans and drives :p

I do, but the PS handled the system fine with a 3870.

I have 9 fans, 4 internal HDs and 3 external(so no worry on those 3)

OOH and a water pump!
 

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in terms of wattage i think the G92GTS only eats about 30-40w more at full load, so you should be fine.

i remember back in the day i rushed out and spent 850AUD on a BFG 6800 Ultra OC AGP, and that had a minimum psu requirement of 480w, and i was actually using an antec trupower 550w at the time, and never had a problem, i dare say at 65nm compared to 130, the power draw will be less, not to mention i thinnk the G92GTS runs at ~1.2v and the NV40Ultra is 1.4v.
 

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in terms of wattage i think the G92GTS only eats about 30-40w more at full load, so you should be fine.

i remember back in the day i rushed out and spent 850AUD on a BFG 6800 Ultra OC AGP, and that had a minimum psu requirement of 480w, and i was actually using an antec trupower 550w at the time, and never had a problem, i dare say at 65nm compared to 130, the power draw will be less, not to mention i thinnk the G92GTS runs at ~1.2v and the NV40Ultra is 1.4v.

draw will be more, due to more complex chips these days, the more transistors you got the more power it eats.

and im runnin an 8800gt on a 400watt FSP psu

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no problem, its the quiliy and amps of the psu that you need to worrie about most not the watts, i could run this off a 380watt unit fine, probbly a 350watt FPS/epower unit would do it even!!!
 
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yah I think i will be more than fine. My PS is 2 rail 18amp. And Ive always been one to say that watts mean nothing. They really have no true bearing on how well its gonna do. But it does give a general example of the power of the unit.

I like my Antec PS and would like to keep it as long as possible but when I upgrade video further or when my PS dies Im gonna go with a PC power cooling 750.

I thought that systems would be using the multi-rail system by now but thats not really the case. I like the single rail and the stability it delivers.
 

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i got a cooler master extreme power 650 watt recently and it was cheap cos its not modular, and i think its got either 2 or 3 12 volt rails, never had a hitch from that yet, and it always blows cool air out the back :D

still got the antec 550 tho, what a beast i got it in 2004, on the side it says that +12v is rated to 30 amps max, with a combined load power draw of 530watts, which should be plenty.
 
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