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NVIDIA Reports Financial Results for Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2010

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Wait, They are paying TSMC to bug out on ATi's 40nm chips?.... No, I don't think so.

Even if an article says it, 1. it's probably written by charlie, and 2. it's just an article.

It is my idea, but think it through! Who would buy Nvidia garphics cards if Ati could supply tons of DX11 cards? Nobody. It is a good business to Nvidia, also for TSMC. TSMC gets a good amount of money for less work, Nvidia can sell more graphics cards and have more time to make their Femi. I do not believe TSMC cannot improve anything with their 40nm technic after many months:rolleyes:!
 

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It is my idea, but think it through! Who would buy Nvidia garphics cards if Ati could supply tons of DX11 cards? Nobody.!

Well that's your opinion and your entitled to it, but keep in mind even if the stores had MORE than enough stock, not all of their cards fits that nicely into a price performance ratio like established Nvidia 9800/GTX200 series, AND ATi 4000 series do, because they have been out so long already, and are nicely established.

There are plenty of reasons not to buy a ATi DX11 card, just like there are plenty of reasons to buy one. you can have your opinion but I severely doubt Nvidia are going under the table to TSMC to effectively sabotage the mass production of ATi's 40nm lineup, I just don't.
 

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In the the 4th quarter of this year if will be the same amount only with a minus in front of it because of all the graphics cards they fried with their new 191.07 drivers.
 

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In the the 4th quarter of this year if will be the same amount only with a minus in front of it because of all the graphics cards they fried with their new 191.07 drivers.

Dude I think you are the only one, Many many users are on 191.07 right now, myself included because as of late I prefer WHQL certified drivers.

If you have genuinely made no modifications or overclocks at all that you could attribute to your cards death, and used only WHQL drivers, RMA the card.

anyone else had their card fried by 191.07 drivers?
 

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Well if you need a 4xxx card go to Tiger. They are local here in Miami and they have STACKS of 4890s all over the damn place.

You know perfectly where I live and unless Tiger, Newegg, etc. have changed their policy they don't ship overseas. I wouldn't buy overseas anyway, last time I did, in an Ebay store I ended up paying more, becase the VAT is applied no matter where you buy from and shipping costs more. Prices are "cheaper" here than there if you exclude VAT. It was a shock for me, because I got a X1950XTX for $289 or 230 euros at the time, when the card costed 450 euros here on retail. In the end I paid almost 370 euros. Well I didn't pay more than if I bought retail here, but I could have found a better deal here AND get in-store warranty, etc.

anyone else had their card fried by 191.07 drivers?

Nope.
 

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Dude I think you are the only one, Many many users are on 191.07 right now, myself included because as of late I prefer WHQL certified drivers.

If you have genuinely made no modifications or overclocks at all that you could attribute to your cards death, and used only WHQL drivers, RMA the card.

anyone else had their card fried by 191.07 drivers?

Dude I don't think so. Check out the Nvidia forum:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=149983&st=0&gopid=946729&#entry946729

Never overclocked or modified my card.
 

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That thread has a handful of users experiencing issues that could be the driver, some maybe not, the commonality definitely is the driver, but some people changed drivers and the card still works fine. There are 20 posts in that thread and you think that might affect 4th quarter revenue? we will indeed see.

RMA your card.
 

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It is my idea, but think it through! Who would buy Nvidia garphics cards if Ati could supply tons of DX11 cards? Nobody. It is a good business to Nvidia, also for TSMC. TSMC gets a good amount of money for less work, Nvidia can sell more graphics cards and have more time to make their Femi. I do not believe TSMC cannot improve anything with their 40nm technic after many months:rolleyes:!

TSMC would have no reason to go along with this. ATi has been a loyal customer of TMSC for several generations of cards, while nVidia recently switch to UMC, and only came back to TMSC for 40nm. It is good business practice to not screw over your loyal customers, even if it means getting a new customer that says they will make you more money.

The problem is 40nm isn't perfected yet, but ATi pushed too quickly to get cards out. RV740 was a test for 40nm, and it showed that TSMC couldn't keep up with demand. Things have improved with 40nm, but not to the point where TSMC can supply 40nm parts for an entire line-up of cards. Maybe one or two cards, but not the entirely line-up ATi is trying to push through, along with nVidia's new cards.
 

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TSMC would have no reason to go along with this. ATi has been a loyal customer of TMSC for several generations of cards, while nVidia recently switch to UMC, and only came back to TMSC for 40nm. It is good business practice to not screw over your loyal customers, even if it means getting a new customer that says they will make you more money.

The problem is 40nm isn't perfected yet, but ATi pushed too quickly to get cards out. RV740 was a test for 40nm, and it showed that TSMC couldn't keep up with demand. Things have improved with 40nm, but not to the point where TSMC can supply 40nm parts for an entire line-up of cards. Maybe one or two cards, but not the entirely line-up ATi is trying to push through, along with nVidia's new cards.

Why did you bother to reply to that newtekie1? I mean really man? :laugh:
 
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was thinking the same thing as MM :D

Still Nvidia has its fingers in many butters now. Won't be surprised if in a few years their SoC solutions overtakes their dedicated graphics in profit, considering where the consumer market is heading now.
 
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was thinking the same thing as MM :D

Still Nvidia has their fingers in many butters now. Won't be surprised if in a few years their SoC solutions overtakes their dedicated graphics in profit, considering where the consumer market is heading now.

fingers in many butters?
 
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Lol dunno where that one came from... Was thinking about cooking dinner or something I guess :slap:
 
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I like to see nvidia doin good... keep up the work nvidia...
 
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Probly would put a chipped dent out due to their "driver shenanigans" once again. But definitely not as a whole.
 

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Well, the problem is that the 9800GT is $75. The HD4770 is $110. That is over a 45% price increase for what is essentially a less than 10% performance improvement...

The same pretty much goes for the HD4850, also available at $110, but the HD4850 at least offers slightly more than a 10% improvement.
the only problem with that is the 9800GT you linked is $94 not $75. I don't include rebates if you were i'm including what its retailing for. so the price difference isn't 45% but more like 10% performance for HD 4770 is only ~8% better overall but the HD 4850 is ~14% better overall, so IMO ATI wins that one.

Going to the GTS250, and you have a card that outperforms the HD4770 and HD4850, and can be had new for $100, $10 less than either card...
now the GTS 250 from galaxy that you posted is def worth the money, only ~3.6% increase in price but ~4% increase in performance so well worth it, esp if you fold...well at least for now but i think that'll change when GPU3 is out for F@H

Now look at the HD5750, going for $145 right now. A 45% price increase over the GTS250 for a 4% performance increase. I hardly consider that worth it.
Now i can't agree more with you on the HD 57XX series....it blows my mind and makes no sense to me why ATI is retailing them for more than they're worth. However this is where ATI counters the GTS 250, your galaxy linked GTS 250 is $114, but the HD 4870 is $124.
11.4% increase in price, but ~ 17% increase in performance worth it. Personally i'd grab the HD 4870 simply because the GTS 250 you linked is galaxy n i haven't owned a galaxy but it doesn't have a good rep, as its egg rating shows.

Moving onto the HD5770, and you have a card that sells for $170. Of course the GTX260 216SP outperforms it and goes for $145 new.
idk where you got $145 from but the cheapest GTX 260 i can find is $164 from palit and galaxy. Now here i would argue that the HD 4870 is 124 and the GTX 260 is 40 bucks more, ~30% more in price, and performance is only 13% but we all know that the higher you go up in performance the price ratio get obscurred and abysmal. So i stop here as the GTX 260 c216 when compared to the HD 4870 has horrible price/perf but the HD 4890 is only ~6% better yet increases by $34.

Of course, like I've said before, another large issue is the supply problems that ATi has been having. While the HD5800 series is better than nVidia's higher end offering both in price and performance, they are nearly impossible to find. They go out of stock almost as fast as they come in. This allows nVidia to sell the much weaker GTX285 for $360.

So to summarize our discussion i think the ATI def wins the <$150 market but after that when you look at price increases and performance increases both ATI and Nvidia start to increase price much more than the performance increases so its a toss up and depends on ones budget after that imo. However i don't believe ATI is manufacturing any cards but the HD 4890 now in that family, so if it comes down to only having HD 5XXX series...ATI better lower prices cause the perf/price ration on their new mainstream gen just makes no sense.

so i agree with you on the higher end market of the mainstream segment but disagree with the 9800GT and GTS 250 being better offers statement.

 
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nVidia is a company with vision, a company able to diversify when diversification is crucial to long term success. True they've had pains; but they'll survive..
 
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lol i don't think anyone is questioning whether Nvidia will survive or not, i mean ATI went to hell n now they're back. Once Nvidia gets Fermi going it'll be a beast for sure, but until then ATI dominates. Anyways I'm curious how nvidia plans to have another good Q of profit this year when ATI is on the ball, i mean yea they have a shortage now but if i owned a company i wouldn't bank on whats going on currently but what could happen in the coming months, like TSMC getting better yields with time as has always been the case.
 

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I don't include rebates

I do, and that is likely where the difference come in. Of course the 9800GT is just as good of a buy as the HD4850, and a better buy than the HD4770 if you aren't considering rebates...

And the GTS250 is a better buy than both...

I find that in dicussions like this the ATi side tend to not consider rebates, I wonder if that is because most ATi manufacturers don't offer rebates and the rebates on nVidia cards makes them better buys...:laugh:
 
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I find that in dicussions like this the ATi side tend to not consider rebates, I wonder if that is because most ATi manufacturers don't offer rebates and the rebates on nVidia cards makes them better buys...:laugh:

QFT :roll: it's very similar to AMD's real man use real core comment
 

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I do, and that is likely where the difference come in. Of course the 9800GT is just as good of a buy as the HD4850, and a better buy than the HD4770 if you aren't considering rebates...

And the GTS250 is a better buy than both...

I find that in dicussions like this the ATi side tend to not consider rebates, I wonder if that is because most ATi manufacturers don't offer rebates and the rebates on nVidia cards makes them better buys...:laugh:

Not true at all man. I got one of my 4850's for 90 bucks when the retail was 159!
 

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Not true at all man. I got one of my 4850's for 90 bucks when the retail was 159!

No, generally it is true, but there are always a few exceptions.
 
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And I got one of my 275 for 200 AUD when the other one cost me 300, and retail was around 320 something, special deals doesn't count. Price should based on deals that everyone could get
 
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well there's no point in discussing that anymore i suppose, and i hope you were just speaking generally about the "ATI fans ignore rebates" and not directly at me...as u can see i have a 7800GTX, had 2 8800GT's, and an HD 4870. The reason i don't include rebates is because i've never used them personally, never thought it was worth the hassle cause i've read that a lot of companies are slow at getting them out so i always said f*ck it lol. I think we've both made valid points, but as always it depends on the person, for me i don't include rebates so ATI may be a better buy for me, but you(@newtekie1) include rebates and i assume you use them so nvidia would probly be the better buy.
 
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