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Case: I bought a NZXT Phantom that while I don't actually have anything in it yet, I'm quite impressed with. I managed to nab it when it was on sale ($100-ish?)

HDD/SSD: Hard drive prices are still pretty high from the Thailand flooding. If your 320GB drive is still doing you fine, I'd keep it. I'm using two Barracuda 7200.10 250 GB drives in raid and they're still holding their own. If budget is bigger issue, I wouldn't worry about that right now.

Motherboard: You mentioned wanting PCIe 3.0. Keep in mind that the motherboard is "PCIe 3.0 Ready", but Sandy Bridge doesn't support it. You'll need to drop in an Ivy Bridge processor (or, according to Google, a Sandy Bridge E) to enable it. It might not be too long of a wait for Ivy. If you're still saving up, you'll probably see it hit by the time you buy. In a nutshell, PCIe 3.0 just improves things like OpenCL. The actual bandwidth increase does bumpkis since PCIe 2.0 isn't stressed for bandwidth.

GPU: In addition to the above, your GTX 560 doesn't support PCIe 3.0. It's still going to be a decent card for games, but you're not going to be maxing out every setting you can find. My 4870/4850 combo is still doing pretty well for me. Again, if budget is a concern

Cooling: Watercooling is fine and dandy, but it's not like your proc won't run on the stock cooler. It's easy enough to stick with stock and swap it out with watercooling later.

I'm looking at buying an Ivy Bridge when it hits (unless AMD can pull something out of their hat) and I just going for CPU and motherboard. Everything else can be swapped over and upgraded later (except my Xiggy S1283, sadly).
 
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Oh, I was thinking MicroCenter was place that Ships them. I'v checked now, and sadly none of them are close to me.

With the SSD, I'm thinking more for Overall Load times (OS, Applications, etc), and less about gaming. I just want everything to be snappy like I would get with an SSD. Though, I do know what you mean about the price on them dropping, Though if it does what I'v been reading, it may be worth the money.

it's in-store specials :( you sure you can drive to one of them? there are 2 in cali
 
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it's in-store specials :( you sure you can drive to one of them? there are 2 in cali
I mean, I could drive to 1 of them, but its still a 50 Mile drive 1 way. So I guess it really depends on how much I would be saving there compared to somewhere such as TigerDirect or Newegg, adding on ~$20 for the Gas it would take to drive there and back.

Too bad there selection on Z77 Motherboards is still small. Though I am really liking there prices on a lot of things.
 
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it'll save you prob in the ~100$ range
 
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it'll save you prob in the ~100$ range
That's exactly what I was thinking.

I will keep that site and the build you gave in the back of my mind, But I still want to wait for the Ivy Bridge reviews before I make any decisions.
 
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I would add, having skimmed the thread (and being in a similar spot as yourself), that it is often not a bad idea to build as you go. Obviously you need the core components right away, but you can always upgrade your PSU, add/upgrade RAM/HDDs/SSDs/GPUs/cooling/etc.
I think that if you are wanting to have some degree of future-proofing in your PC but want it NOW, going with a Z77 Board (Asus P8Z77-WS and EVGA Z77 FTW are super nice), a Sandy-Bridge CPU (i5 2500K or i7 2600K), grab a Corsair ForceGT 3 120GB SSD from the Egg for right about $1/GB, skip the H100 and save money now to do a real loop later, and get a case that supports the most water cooling equipment possible and has the biggest amount of cable management space. Spend some money swapping out all the fans for high-CFM fans (140mm if possible), and get the airflow perfect.
Sure, you can grab a 1-1.5TB WD CavBlk/RE4 HDD for $130-160 but I would wait a bit if your current drive works, spend it instead on the SSD as it will make more difference.
Oh, and get some great RAM.. It can make or break an otherwise amazing SB system, it would appear...
 
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I would add, having skimmed the thread (and being in a similar spot as yourself), that it is often not a bad idea to build as you go. Obviously you need the core components right away, but you can always upgrade your PSU, add/upgrade RAM/HDDs/SSDs/GPUs/cooling/etc.
I think that if you are wanting to have some degree of future-proofing in your PC but want it NOW, going with a Z77 Board (Asus P8Z77-WS and EVGA Z77 FTW are super nice), a Sandy-Bridge CPU (i5 2500K or i7 2600K), grab a Corsair ForceGT 3 120GB SSD from the Egg for right about $1/GB, skip the H100 and save money now to do a real loop later, and get a case that supports the most water cooling equipment possible and has the biggest amount of cable management space. Spend some money swapping out all the fans for high-CFM fans (140mm if possible), and get the airflow perfect.
Sure, you can grab a 1-1.5TB WD CavBlk/RE4 HDD for $130-160 but I would wait a bit if your current drive works, spend it instead on the SSD as it will make more difference.
Oh, and get some great RAM.. It can make or break an otherwise amazing SB system, it would appear...

I pretty much disagree with most of this advice. I think if you buy Z77, might as well buy IB. The Corsair is agood, but I prefer the reliability that Samsung and Intel and Crucial have to offer. Doing a real loop is quite a hassle and will break the bank, even in 6 months stc, he doesn't have the luxury to spend that much. High-CFM fans are a huge waste of money if you are going for bang/buck, as they usually are ~15$ ea. Great RAM makes barely any difference, even on SB. Anything over 1866 cl9 is a waste really. cheap 47$ 8GB kits will perform even better than the 1866 cl9 at a low price anyways. IIRC the board you mentioned in you post are very expensive and probably not worth it. Considering that it has been said the HDD is the last thing to upgrade, he doesn't have to worry about prices for now anyways.
 
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I would add, having skimmed the thread (and being in a similar spot as yourself), that it is often not a bad idea to build as you go. Obviously you need the core components right away, but you can always upgrade your PSU, add/upgrade RAM/HDDs/SSDs/GPUs/cooling/etc.
I think that if you are wanting to have some degree of future-proofing in your PC but want it NOW, going with a Z77 Board (Asus P8Z77-WS and EVGA Z77 FTW are super nice), a Sandy-Bridge CPU (i5 2500K or i7 2600K), grab a Corsair ForceGT 3 120GB SSD from the Egg for right about $1/GB, skip the H100 and save money now to do a real loop later, and get a case that supports the most water cooling equipment possible and has the biggest amount of cable management space. Spend some money swapping out all the fans for high-CFM fans (140mm if possible), and get the airflow perfect.
Sure, you can grab a 1-1.5TB WD CavBlk/RE4 HDD for $130-160 but I would wait a bit if your current drive works, spend it instead on the SSD as it will make more difference.
Oh, and get some great RAM.. It can make or break an otherwise amazing SB system, it would appear...
I was thinking about waiting on the Cooler, but have found a lot of people think its a bad idea to let the stock cooler anywhere near the CPU. Also, I'm not that interested in a Real Water Cooling Loop, Both because of the costs, and from what I'v heard, High Maintenance. I picked the H100 people from the looks of it, its mostly a 1 time set up and forget about it type of thing, plus works great. Extra Fan/New Fans (If needed) can be in Stage 2.

Though, Now that I think about it, I'm unsure if the case I picked can fit the 240mm Radiator that comes with the H100. Don't know how I forgot to check for this case.

I pretty much disagree with most of this advice. I think if you buy Z77, might as well buy IB. The Corsair is agood, but I prefer the reliability that Samsung and Intel and Crucial have to offer. Doing a real loop is quite a hassle and will break the bank, even in 6 months stc, he doesn't have the luxury to spend that much. High-CFM fans are a huge waste of money if you are going for bang/buck, as they usually are ~15$ ea. Great RAM makes barely any difference, even on SB. Anything over 1866 cl9 is a waste really. cheap 47$ 8GB kits will perform even better than the 1866 cl9 at a low price anyways. IIRC the board you mentioned in you post are very expensive and probably not worth it. Considering that it has been said the HDD is the last thing to upgrade, he doesn't have to worry about prices for now anyways.
Pretty much exactly what I was thinking. I mean, The only point for me to get a Z77 Board is for the PCI-E 3.0, which needs Ivy Bridge to work anyways. If I don't end up getting an Ivy Bridge, I wont be getting a Z77.

Edit- Switched the 'Antec Twelve Hundred V3' for the 'IN WIN Dragon Rider Black 1.0'.
Switched the 'OCZ Agility 3 120GB' for the 'Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 120GB'.
 
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So, now that I'v been reading more reviews, Ivy Bridge seems to be as I expected, and what I would "want" to get, however, It doesn't seem like I will be able to get another $400 for that in a reasonable amount of time, and my current computer is having more problems by the day.

So, Everyone was saying the i5-2500k would do really great for me, and I found a fairly good Deal at Tiger Direct for one: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=2406873&sku=B69-1406
How does that look to everyone else?
 
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I don't like the board, and I hate the case and PSU is a paperweight

I'd still do the trip to MC if I were you.
 
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I don't like the board, and I hate the case and PSU is a paperweight

I'd still do the trip to MC if I were you.
What exactly is wrong with the board? I actually like the case, I mean, its not one I would buy if I was picking, but it work work just fine for me, and I would use the current PSU I have for it.


I mean, I could do what n-ster suggested, but with it I wouldn't (It would still be planned for later) be able to get the 1TB Hard Drive with it too (or an SSD for that matter). Everything he said + the Case would be all I could get currently.
 
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I think going for the 2500K at this point is the right idea. But I don't like that bundle deal.

The PSU is a complete unknown, the ram is 1333, etc.
 
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I think going for the 2500K at this point is the right idea. But I don't like that bundle deal.

The PSU is a complete unknown, the ram is 1333, etc.
Ya, Ok then. I'll look over Microcenter with what you'v said n-ster.


So, Here is what I'm looking at so far-
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0365792 (Prob will wait a bit on this though)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0358074
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364226
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0365240
 
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Pretty good stuff, but if you're getting the 2500K you should get a P67 or Z68 motherboard.

You won't be able to overclock on the H67. If that's not important to you, then you can step down to a 2400 or 2300.
 
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H100 is way overkill. Maybe H60, but even then, the Hyper 212+ should be much more than enough IMO. I'd change the board for Z68, perhaps avoid mATX, case wise, I'd rather take a NZXT Phantom or Phantom 410 if you wanna spend that much.
 
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H100 is way overkill. Maybe H60, but even then, the Hyper 212+ should be much more than enough IMO. I'd change the board for Z68, perhaps avoid mATX, case wise, I'd rather take a NZXT Phantom or Phantom 410 if you wanna spend that much.
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you.


So, for the motherboard, I figure ASUS P8Z68-V LX LGA 1155 Z68 ATX would do, correct?

Also, Both the Cases you linked are out of stock at the Microcenter near me.

I think I would just wait on getting a Cooler for now, and use the Stock. I mean, it should work fine for a couple of months until I get a newer one.


So, here is everything I would start off with:
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0371775
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364226
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0365240

Which would come out to $409.42

How does that look then?
 
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Sorry for taking so long to get back to you.


So, for the motherboard, I figure ASUS P8Z68-V LX LGA 1155 Z68 ATX would do, correct?

Also, Both the Cases you linked are out of stock at the Microcenter near me.

I think I would just wait on getting a Cooler for now, and use the Stock. I mean, it should work fine for a couple of months until I get a newer one.


So, here is everything I would start off with:
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0371775
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364226
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0365240

Which would come out to $409.42

How does that look then?

That looks like a decent starting point though I would look for some decent Corsair/Kingston/G. Skill memory at 1600 rather than what you have at 1333. And as everyone has sad your cooling is way overkill even if it does get hot in my opinion just go with a nice air cooler. I have my 2600K OC'ed to 4.4 and even on air it is still not breaking 55 C during heavy gaming and thats at the ridiculous voltage of 1.39v that my shitty clocker needs :laugh:
 
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That looks like a decent starting point though I would look for some decent Corsair/Kingston/G. Skill memory at 1600 rather than what you have at 1333. And as everyone has sad your cooling is way overkill even if it does get hot in my opinion just go with a nice air cooler. I have my 2600K OC'ed to 4.4 and even on air it is still not breaking 55 C during heavy gaming and thats at the ridiculous voltage of 1.39v that my shitty clocker needs :laugh:
Turns out they are out of that Ram anyways. I think I have another one picked out:
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0382101

I will rethink the cooling. Though, I want to be sure that it can handle it when I room gets pretty hot.

As for the case, I think I will look for something a bit cheaper that still works.


Edit-
Found 2 Cases that could work, Which one do you all think is better?
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0283272
or
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0308296
 
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The Ram looks good and as for the case I would go with the Storm Scout, I have my own Coolermaster case and could not be happier with it.
 
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Ok, So here is the new list of everything I have picked-

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0371775
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0382101
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0308296

Which brings it to a total of $371.69.

Right now, lower the better, as I have loaned a bit of the money out, but I should be able to get anything $410 (Total) or less right now. I'm planning on getting an SSD + Cooler after I Graduate (End of this month), which should get me an extra $100 from spend in gifts and whatnot (Plus I will have all the Loaned Money back by then), so I should be all set for everything.

Will just be happy to be able to Multitask without everything Freezing when opening the browser after getting this first batch.



Anything else need to be changed? I want to a few people give me the Thumbs up before buying anything as to not get anything wrong and regret it later.
 
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Looks good to me and you will be able to do quite a bit more than just multitask without freezing lol
 
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Looks good to me and you will be able to do quite a bit more than just multitask without freezing lol
Hey, Don't start with this Wizardry here. This Multitasking without Freezing thing is crazy enough, more isn't possible. :p ;)

I'm not exactly sure what happened with my current build, It seems like going to a Quad Core actually made things worse. But whatever, My mind will actually be blown after I get this new stuff. Hopefully it combined with my Newish video card will actually be able to play something like Far Cry 2 (or any other game for that matter, like Just Cause 2 or Crysis) with something Higher then the lowest settings with still alright frame-rate. That....Is where they will be cleaning my brain off the walls for months to come.
 
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nono def get http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0380720 as RAM. Those are the ones known to OC well

For the mobo either that Asus you just linked or http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0384988 seems good.

but now that I've seen the i5 3570K, you could go that route as well and just get a good cooler or something. It's an option I would consider at the very least, do your hw and compare the prices and deals etc

but RAM def the samsung 1600. As for the case, not sure lmao... Maybe the Corsair 400R? Tempest 410? idk if they are any good, but they are probably worth checking it out
 
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nono def get http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0380720 as RAM. Those are the ones known to OC well

For the mobo either that Asus you just linked or http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0384988 seems good.

but now that I've seen the i5 3570K, you could go that route as well and just get a good cooler or something. It's an option I would consider at the very least, do your hw and compare the prices and deals etc

but RAM def the samsung 1600. As for the case, not sure lmao... Maybe the Corsair 400R? Tempest 410? idk if they are any good, but they are probably worth checking it out
The Ram was out of stock, which is why I changed it. Is there anything else you would pick other then that?

The processor is also Out of Stock, though I do like it.

I like the NZXT Crafted Series Tempest 410 actually, will get that one instead.

As for the Motherboard, I will stick with the one I picked as long as it works for OC'ing.


I mean, I wouldn't mind waiting for the others to come in stock, but who knows how long they will be out.
 
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