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Great review as always Wizz.

This card would be epic in about 6months time in quadfire, the price/performance would be just pure WIN.
 

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Great review Wizzard. I was waiting on your review before putting thought into buying.
Was searching and found the BIG brother of the 6870X2. The 6970X2!

The HD 6970X2
3X8pin power connectors, WOW!
Pic included...
Designed to be faster than the HD 6990 and the GTX 590 this card should be the faster on the market since unlike the GTX 590 and HD 6990 it is not based on cut down versions of the single GPU's which are then later combined i.e. the GTX 590 is based on two cut down GTX 580 cores.

This card essentially like a HD 6990 except PowerColor have made it so that each core can run at full capacity and maintain the same overclocking headroom per GPU as the HD 6970. The card is cooled with a triple slot, dual fan (120mm and 140mm) and dual heatsink design. Again like the HD 6870X2 the card will be produced to either run the CrossFireX connection between its two GPU's or the Lucid Hydra engine.

The general specifications of the card are:•3072 stream processors
• 64 ROPs
• 4GB GDDR5
• 256bit memory bus
• 2 X DVI
• 2 X mini display port
• 1 X HDMI
• 6 +2 Phase VRM
• 3 X 8pin power connections
Again no official words on pricing but expect prices similar to that of the HD 6990 add about 10% because of the extra processing power.
 

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to bad, that in this review is no compare vs 6850 CF and 6870 CF, cuz those combos is cheaper and I have no idea how faster they are.
 
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Lets hope they keep working at concepts like this and get the quirks worked out. Overall it doesn't sound bad.
 
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The HD 6970X2
3X8pin power connectors, WOW!
Pic included...
Designed to be faster than the HD 6990 and the GTX 590 this card should be the faster on the market since unlike the GTX 590 and HD 6990 it is not based on cut down versions of the single GPU's which are then later combined i.e. the GTX 590 is based on two cut down GTX 580 cores.

Neither the HD6990 or GTX590 are based on cut down versions of their representative high end single GPU brethren.

The HD6990 is two HD6970 GPU's downclocked whilst the GTX590 is two GTX580 GPU's heavily downclocked.

In both cases the entire feature set is retained.
 
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Cheapest I can find it in UK is £337. A single 6870 1GB is ~£130 so for many people CFX 6870 is the better choice. Even then it struggles to compete with the 6970, GTX480 and GTX570 (~£200) or GTX580 (~£300) on price and the risk of less than 6870 performance where CFX doesn't help. Price needs to be ~£250-275 for this product to make sense.
 

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Great review Wizzard. I was waiting on your review before putting thought into buying.
Was searching and found the BIG brother of the 6870X2. The 6970X2!

The HD 6970X2
3X8pin power connectors, WOW!
Pic included...
Designed to be faster than the HD 6990 and the GTX 590 this card should be the faster on the market since unlike the GTX 590 and HD 6990 it is not based on cut down versions of the single GPU's which are then later combined i.e. the GTX 590 is based on two cut down GTX 580 cores.

This card essentially like a HD 6990 except PowerColor have made it so that each core can run at full capacity and maintain the same overclocking headroom per GPU as the HD 6970. The card is cooled with a triple slot, dual fan (120mm and 140mm) and dual heatsink design. Again like the HD 6870X2 the card will be produced to either run the CrossFireX connection between its two GPU's or the Lucid Hydra engine.

The general specifications of the card are:•3072 stream processors
• 64 ROPs
• 4GB GDDR5
• 256bit memory bus
• 2 X DVI
• 2 X mini display port
• 1 X HDMI
• 6 +2 Phase VRM
• 3 X 8pin power connections
Again no official words on pricing but expect prices similar to that of the HD 6990 add about 10% because of the extra processing power.

If the 6870X2 is 529 the 6970X2 is going to be close to 700
 

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Been putting some thought of purchasing the 6870X2. I cant justify paying $519 at Newegg when you can purchase two PowerColor 6950's for $498. In crossfire they will be faster (by a good margin) as indicated by one of the reviews. As everyone has said, the target price for the 6870X2 should be $450-$470. At that price I would purchase one today!
 

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Been putting some thought of purchasing the 6870X2. I cant justify paying $519 at Newegg when you can purchase two PowerColor 6950's for $498. In crossfire they will be faster (by a good margin) as indicated by one of the reviews. As everyone has said, the target price for the 6870X2 should be $450-$470. At that price I would purchase one today!

Problem is you can only do 2 way xfire where the X2 can do 3 way along with quad
 

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2-way Xfire has always been enough for me. More stable in many cases vs tri or quad. The 6870X2 is simply over priced. I believe NEWEGG is the problem. This is a new product and they are maximizing their profit margin through early adopters like alot of us.
 

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2-way Xfire has always been enough for me. More stable in many cases vs tri or quad. The 6870X2 is simply over priced. I believe NEWEGG is the problem. This is a new product and they are maximizing their profit margin through early adopters like alot of us.

Newegg definitely marked it up. It doesn't even have any reviews. I don't think they sold a single one.
 
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Newegg definitely marked it up. It doesn't even have any reviews. I don't think they sold a single one.

Where did you order yours from?
 
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I cancelled my order from the egg. I wanted to play with it but after my 5870's in X i decided that it would have been a waste.

That was a good decision.
 

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I've been holding off on buying a new card because I want to get as close to HD 6990/GTX 590 performance as I can without selling my kidneys. Unfortunately I'm still on the fence, but at least I have the information I need to eventually get off of it.

Great review!
Increasing GPU voltage was also possible using Sapphire's TRIXX, too bad PowerColor does not have an overclocking utility of their own.
 
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Now I wonder if this will get AMDs attention to develop a driver for this card
 

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I am still interested in the card, but not over 465-$475. I'm thinking you would need both PCIe lanes (crossfire)at 16X. You would need all the bandwidth possible with this kind from power from each card.
 

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you have to realize this is powercolors design not AMDs, n Also Your practically paying for 2 of the top end of the Middle Class Boards
 
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you have to realize this is powercolors design not AMDs, n Also Your practically paying for 2 of the top end of the Middle Class Boards

But you can get 2 6870s for around $350 and they have more overclocking headroom.

The only advantage that this card has is that you can run tri-fire with another 6870, or quad-fire if you buy two of them. I personally don't think that's worth another $150 though.
 

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call it as you want but just quick do the crossfire 6870s have same performance numbers as the 6870x2 where they are coming close to the 6990?
 
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call it as you want but just quick do the crossfire 6870s have same performance numbers as the 6870x2 where they are coming close to the 6990?

In W1zzard's review of 6870 Crossfire, they go toe to toe and the Crossfires were using older drivers.

I agree with you that it is a good single card, I just don't think it's worth the price that they're asking.
 

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bear in mind AMD had nothing to do about PCB Development of the card from Powercolor, so TUL is able to charge what they so please.

N Yes the card is very good considering it has to use a Single PCI E Slot
 
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I'm just hoping a lack of sales will drive the price down to more reasonable levels.
 

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thats gonna take awhile, I mean Im impressed by the board myself, Course they said the 6000 series was just a cooler version of 5000 series and just a stop gap till Radeon 7000 appears
 
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