q6600 G0 Cooler Suggestions. Help Please!

[alexp999]

Hi,
My dad is going to be getting a q6600 (G0) for his XFX 680i mobo. Now I assume that being quad core these get hot. We want to get a thrid party cooler for it so it can run cooler than with the intel HSF. The only must is that it has PWM. So far I have found these:
http://www.arctic-cooling.com/cpu2.php?idx=79&data=1&disc=
http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=193&code=009
Anyone had any experience with these on a q6600 or similar?
Which would be better? Or any other suggestions?
I should also add that he has a side 120mm fan blowing straight at the cpu. Does this make any difference? Would it conflict with the above style of coolers as they blow the air in a different direction to the intel HSF?
Any info/advice/help is greatly appreciated,

Thanks.

 

[alexp999]

Just want to add, we plan to OC this CPU to 3Ghz so the cooler must be good enough to cope with that, and will there be any restrictions on his mobo for third party coolers in terms of size?

Thanks.

 

[Chewy]

get the thermalright extreme ultra 120. oh you said must have pwm (so it stays silent eh) well the zalman 9700 is great.. just a bt more than the 9500 and it will be ALOT better since mine runs max rpm sometimes to keep my cpu cool.. at max rpm it does make some noise! and with an overclocked quad Im sure it will run max sooner than with my duel.

 

[freaksavior]

get the thermalright extreme ultra 120. oh you said must have pwm (so it stays silent eh) well the zalman 9700 is great.. just a bt more than the 9500 and it will be ALOT better since mine runs max rpm sometimes to keep my cpu cool.. at max rpm it does make some noise! and with an overclocked quad Im sure it will run max sooner than with my duel.

^^ what chewy said

 

[Chewy]

my temps suck on my chip, the 9500 may be enough for 3.0 easily though with your pwnage g0 q6600... you could prob undervolt it too.. but if you see an opening for the 9700 that wont cost much more and he dont mind the size.. GET it cause it will be quieter.

 

[alexp999]

This one?
http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=231&code=009
Take it, it won't be too big for the mobo?
Also wanted to mention, cus the above HSF is twice the rpice of the Artic 7 Pro
He currently has an e6600 running at about 38 with 938rpm on a stock HSF.
Dunno if it will make any difference to the one to pick?
The 9700 seems rather big (don't want to damage the mobo) and expensive thats all.

Let me know what you think

Thanks.

 

[surfsk8snow.jah]

Like Chewy said initially, go with the thermalright ultra-120 eXtreme... Then just grab some heatsinks you have laying around from an old rig, or buy some random small heatsinks off newegg (they have some that are perfect), cut them up into small sizes, and slap them onto the mosfets. This will help regulate your PWM, and the voltage going to your CPU. But there's nothing like that thermalright 120 extreme.

 

[Chewy]

it should fit fine gravefiller has one on his Asus P5k Deluxe mobo and it fits fine with that (it has fancy mobo cooling aswell). as long as hes not traveling alot with this computer the heatsink will be ok with the mobo. I travel out of province with mine and it takes its share of bumps with no problems. make sure it will fit in the case though (Im sure it will). what case willl he be using?

edit: Im semi-noob lol ^^ I though pwn was the fan speed controller.. humm didnt know the mobo mosfets had much or anything to do with them.. Im looking to do what surf said I thin I have some mosfets on my mobo that have no heatsinks.


to: surfsk8snow is the yelow spots I cercled my mobo mosfets? and should I get some thermal adhesive and glue some heatsinks onto them?

 

[cdawall]

Tr ultra 120 eXtreme is best you can get right now


should allow you to do a good deal over 3ghz to

 

[alexp999]

it should fit fine gravefiller has one on his Asus P5k Deluxe mobo and it fits fine with that (it has fancy mobo cooling aswell). as long as hes not traveling alot with this computer the heatsink will be ok with the mobo. I travel out of province with mine and it takes its share of bumps with no problems. make sure it will fit in the case though (Im sure it will). what case willl he be using?

edit: Im semi-noob lol ^^ I though pwn was the fan speed controller.. humm didnt know the mobo mosfets had much or anything to do with them.. Im looking to do what surf said I thin I have some mosfets on my mobo that have no heatsinks.


to: surfsk8snow is the yelow spots I cercled my mobo mosfets? and should I get some thermal adhesive and glue some heatsinks onto them?

He has an Icute something. Nothing fancy but he has approx 20mm gap between top of mobo and bottom of psu, if it helps,

Thanks

 

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

get urself a scythe ninja or a freezer 7 pro

 

[alexp999]

Like Chewy said initially, go with the thermalright ultra-120 eXtreme... Then just grab some heatsinks you have laying around from an old rig, or buy some random small heatsinks off newegg (they have some that are perfect), cut them up into small sizes, and slap them onto the mosfets. This will help regulate your PWM, and the voltage going to your CPU. But there's nothing like that thermalright 120 extreme.

Sorry bit of a noob, why would the mofsets (had to look that up to even know what ur on about lol!) need cooling?

Thanks.

 

[alexp999]

get urself a scythe ninja or a freezer 7 pro

Freezer 7 Pro is one of the first I was looking at, I quite like it as it also appears to cool these MOFSETS? But would it be enough to cool a q6600 @3Ghz?

Thanks

 

[Chewy]

^^ to reach the speed he wants those will do it well enough and you cant beat the price on the freezer 7 pro + its a guarantied fit... it will be a bit louder though when using your cpu's potential.

Im not sure about size but I could fit a 9700 in my case but there wont be very much room left between it and my psu, look at my mobo picture to get an idea where the cpu sits, than I have like 1 inch from the top on the mobo to my psu.

Edit: I also heard that the g0 steeping can reach quite far with stock vcore.. so Id imagine you can undervolt it for 3.0ghz to lower its thermal output. the freezer wil work just may be a bit noisy for my taste when under load.

 

[alexp999]

Thanks everyone, think I will try the Freezer 7 pro, it wont involve me removing his mobo then and I can get it for about £15 ($30), thats half the price of the zalmans. And just one last question, the main thing is that the freezer 7 pro is going to do better than the Stock intel HSF right?

Thanks.

 

[Chewy]

yep it will do better! get some thermal paste too (duh, lol)

the freezer is just as good as a 9500 or atleast around the same.

edit: oh and one thanks per topic is enough, but thanks for the thanks

 

[gR3iF]

The freezer 7 will do better then the stock but the 9700 is definitly worth a try. In my eyes its a pretty good cooler.

 

[cdawall]

Thanks everyone, think I will try the Freezer 7 pro, it wont involve me removing his mobo then and I can get it for about £15 ($30), thats half the price of the zalmans. And just one last question, the main thing is that the freezer 7 pro is going to do better than the Stock intel HSF right?

Thanks.

yes way better than stock get another 92mm fan and you can attach it to the opposite side of the cooler and drop temps even more

 

[nflesher87]

I just ordered a Q6600 G0 last night
they can do 3.0 easily on stock cooling without it being a problem
that being said, I also wouldn't exactly recommend it
I'll be using my zalman 9700LED on it and it should work pretty well up to about 3.5
I'll definitely let you all know next weekend when I get everything in and hooked up

 

[alexp999]

I just ordered a Q6600 G0 last night
they can do 3.0 easily on stock cooling without it being a problem
that being said, I also wouldn't exactly recommend it
I'll be using my zalman 9700LED on it and it should work pretty well up to about 3.5
I'll definitely let you all know next weekend when I get everything in and hooked up

Thanks it would be good to know the results.

 

[hat]

You should get the Thermaltake Big Typhoon. With proper airflow, my uncle keeps his 6000+ at 33C while playing Bioshock lol

and its not undervolted

It's not PWM but it's quiet

 

[cdawall]

freezer 7 wil cool better

 

[surfsk8snow.jah]

Ya Mosfet cooling. The mosfets regulate the voltage to your CPU, so if these get hot, than your voltage is kinda jumpy, which can cause instability in your system. So, you want to keep these cool. Most CPU fans that blow straight down on the CPU do this already to some extent, however, applying heatsinks to a component is always the best way to go when you're trying to take the maximum heat away. If you're overclocking your CPU &/or VGA, you should definitely think about cooling your mosfets, your northbridge, and southbridge, in addition to the main processing unit.
Some companies sell specific heatsinks for the mosfets (ex. Thermalright: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109016), or like I said, you can just use little heatsinks individually on them (ex: before: http://images.gruntville.com/images/hardware/heatsinks/microcool_northpole/mosfets_before.jpg, after: http://images.gruntville.com/images/hardware/heatsinks/microcool_northpole/mosfets_after_T.jpg <-- from a review of a northbridge & mosfet cooling set).

As for the definition of PWM, there are 2 definitions. The one I was referring to was "pulse width modulation, which refers to a few small MOSFETs near the CPU socket that control the voltages to the cpu and other circuitry, generally regarded as a prime candidate for extra cooling." (ref: http://www.computing.net/cpus/wwwboard/forum/12057.html)
You'll see a lot techies refer to the PWM area of their mobo, which is basically where the regulation of power to your CPU is.
The other definition I'm seeing spread on the internet is a variability in fan speed, as noted here:
"The way pulse width modulation (PWM) works in cooling devices is based on a premise similar to the thermostat. In the most common scenario of PWM control, power driven into your CPU cooler is adjusted depending on its temperature. An idle CPU does not generate as much heat, requires less active cooling, and hence slower fan speeds will be sufficient. Obviously, this also reduces the overall ambient noise and best of all, it's handled automatically with little risk to your PC components.

While this feature has become quite popular in the PC cooling solutions industry, with PWM supported fan headers (usually of the 4-pin variety) natively available on most motherboards, there is often only one or two of such headers, reserved for the CPU and/or chipset coolers." (ref: http://www.hardwarezone.com.au/firstlooks/view.php?cid=3&id=6841 <-- which is a pretty kewl device btw).

So that's what I found, and we were both right about what PWM is then. Hope that info help.

 

[surfsk8snow.jah]

here's a good thread:http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=26

 

[Chewy]

hey man check out this fan... http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25013&vpn=AF12025PWM&manufacture=Arctic Cooling it has pwm you could put that on an thermalright extreme.. would be nice

"I bought fan to be use with a Thermalright HR-01 heatsink using the PWM connector on the motherboard. At is minimum speed 400rpm, it barely spin or move air Plus the hardware motherboard monitoring on an ASUS P5B Deluxe don't realy like fan that spin below 600 RPM. But if quietness is your main goal and don't overclock then it can e interresting for you. It's quiet even at hi speed. Not far away from being a great product !"

only$10 Canadian.