RTX3090TI or RTX4070TI 1440P Gaming

[Hasan5164]

Hi,
which would be a better buy for 1440P gaming, RTX3090TI or RTX4070TI, processor 14700KF, DDR5 6000mhz
Regards

 

[FreedomEclipse]

RTX4070TI if money is no object.

 

[Hyderz]

4070ti super

 

[Dragam1337]

4070ti super

Deffo wait for that !

 

[Dristun]

The 70super with (presumably) 16GB option is coming out next month. Hold on a little if you can. Otherwise I vote for 70, power draw on 90ti is too much imo.

 

[evernessince]

The 3090 Ti has much more memory, nearly double the memory bandwidth, and is 10% faster while the 4070 Ti supports frame-generation and is more power efficient. Both cards have similar RT performance but the 3090 Ti is more appealing for RT due to it's vastly superior memory subsystem. 12GB is not going to be enough for future ray tracing titles when we have games using 16GB with RT enabled right now.

The primary reason to get the 4070 Ti would be power consumption but that's entirely up to you if that's a point of contention. Otherwise the 3090 Ti is giving you more and will have greater longevity.

The 70super with (presumably) 16GB option is coming out next month. Hold on a little if you can. Otherwise I vote for 70, power draw on 90ti is too much imo.

Yes, assuming the super cards come in at the same price the memory bump and increase in cores makes them an attractive option.

 

[Hasan5164]

my current RTX2080TI is liquid cooled, 3090ti waterblock are a bit difficult to get, 4070ti are available with nearly most of the suppliers

waiting to see the price for 4070ti super, over here 3090ti is sold at a higher cost than 4070ti, i can get a asus 4070ti OC for AED3800/, 3090ti are at least AED4500/- but difficult to get

 

[Lionheart]

WHat others said, wait for the Super series.

 

[P4-630]

Nvidia is said to have built up a large stock of the upcoming RTX 4070 Super to compete with AMD's RX 7800 XT.

The RTX 4070 Super would be fairly easy for Nvidia to produce, as it would be an RTX 4070 Ti, but with a few Cuda cores disabled.
The 4070 Ti is slightly slower than the RX 7800XT in standard rasterization calculations, but is quite competitive.
With a few Cuda cores less, the RTX 4070 Super could be an interesting competitor provided the price is right.

Wegen RX 7800 XT: Nvidia soll "sehr viele" RTX-4070-Super-GPUs produzieren lassen [Gerücht]

Die RTX 4070 Super steht als erste Grafikkarte des Nvidia-Refreshs vor der Tür - und soll insbesondere mit der Radeon RX 7800 XT in Konkurrenz treten.

www.pcgameshardware.de

 

[gffermari]

4070Ti Super.
Even the 4070Ti is more appealing than any ampere gpu.

 

[Dragam1337]

my current RTX2080TI is liquid cooled, 3090ti waterblock are a bit difficult to get, 4070ti are available with nearly most of the suppliers

waiting to see the price for 4070ti super, over here 3090ti is sold at a higher cost than 4070ti, i can get a asus 4070ti OC for AED3800/, 3090ti are at least AED4500/- but difficult to get

Honestly you would be rather stupid to not wait for the 4070 ti super, as it will be a substantially better than the 4070 ti.

 

[AdmiralThrawn]

The 3090ti will more than likely beat your 4070ti in most games. But the few percentage points of performance are negated by a 450W power draw on the 3090ti. I would pickup a 4070ti super next month. Or look for a good deal on a 4070 non super when the new models come out next month.

 

[pf100]

4070 ti super.

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

Why not a 4080...

 

[Frick]

Why not a 4080...

If I was spending that kind of money I'd definitely think hard about a 4080.

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

If I was spending that kind of money I'd definitely think hard about a 4080.

I mean, the OP has a stupid fast CPU and reasonably fast RAM, he won't be bottlenecking 4080. It's beyond enough at 1440p so why not.

 

[dgianstefani]

2080Ti successor is 4080 Super. Wait for that, or pick up a 4080 when they're cheaper.

4070 Ti Super if you can't afford it, will be a 4080 lite.

Don't bother waterblocking anything that isn't a xx80/xx90.

Price of a waterblock is basically $200+, $800+200 = $1000, 4080 - currently $1200, will be cheaper once Supers release. Don't waste time waterblocking cards that don't need it and put budget into a tier up instead.

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

Don't waste time waterblocking cards that don't need it

No card needs it honestly, unless your ambient temperature is menacingly high and your overclocking ambitions are even higher. I ran a superclocked R9 290 (380 W) on air no problem.

 

[dgianstefani]

No card needs it honestly, unless your ambient temperature is menacingly high and your overclocking ambitions are even higher. I ran a superclocked R9 290 (380 W) on air no problem.

The point I'm making is 4070 Ti isn't high wattage enough at 285 W to benefit aside from maybe noise levels.

4080/90 are, at 350-400 W/600 W.

The 3080 Ti I'm using peaks at around 400 W, and that definitely benefits from watercooling. Being able to control the fan speed of all the cooling elements in my PC is also beneficial

 

[Dragam1337]

Watercooling in general is just a waste of money... better use the money to get a faster gpu.

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

maybe noise levels.

Any mechanical keyboard is louder and more annoying than triple lazy 100 mm fans. Even, god forbid, 3K RPM hoovers are not as audible. And considering some AIB GPUs with excessive mammoth air cooling solutions you're likely to eyewitness low 60s in temperature running at peak stock wattage with fans spinning at a reasonable dozen and a half hundred RPM.

Liquid cooling is a kink, not a necessity. You won't tell the 200 to 205 FPS difference. But your wallet will.

 

[dgianstefani]

Any mechanical keyboard is louder and more annoying than triple lazy 100 mm fans. Even, god forbid, 3K RPM hoovers are not as audible. And considering some AIB GPUs with excessive mammoth air cooling solutions you're likely to eyewitness low 60s in temperature running at peak stock wattage with fans spinning at a reasonable dozen and a half hundred RPM.

Liquid cooling is a kink, not a necessity. You won't tell the 200 to 205 FPS difference. But your wallet will.

That's your opinion. It's certainly not a necessity, nor is it a kink.

You can easily OC to 2200 MHz with Ampere on liquid for example, while temps are around 50, with hotspot/VRAM in 60s, while having an inaudible system.

Just because you can't tell a difference of 20 FPS, doesn't mean others can't.

Liquid cooling also enables more compact ITX systems, and lighter/smaller cards.

Some people also enjoy not having hot air blasted over their m.2 and RAM.

Liquid cooled GPUs also have more stable temperatures, with lower spikes. This helps when locking voltage and frequency, as I do.

There's arguments cooler parts with smaller temperature fluctuations are good for longevity too.

 

[Double-Click]

What is your refresh rate at 1440p?
If it's just 144-165Hz you'll be fine with a 4070 Super even.

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

Just because you can't tell a difference of 20 FPS, doesn't mean others can't.

20 FPS is 10% of 200 FPS which is insanely rich for what 2200 MHz OC can achieve over regular 2050 MHz air cooled OC. It doesn't scale linearly so your best bet is 5%, or 200 to 210 FPS. To understate it as much as it's possible, you need advanced vision to tell them apart not knowing it beforehand.

while having an inaudible system.

Pumps ain't audible..? Noted.

Liquid cooling also enables more compact ITX systems, and lighter/smaller cards.

420x140x60 (with 25 mm fans included in those 60) mm heatsink is the very definition of a compact ITX system ngl xDDDDDDDDD

Some people also enjoy not having hot air blasted over their m.2 and RAM.

The solution has been invented before most of them were born. Blower coolers. Made correctly (i.e. Pascal Founders Edition), it's very quiet and allows for safe temperatures and lets heat outta your case. And never leaks, unlike liquid cooling.

 

[dgianstefani]

The solution has been invented before most of them were born. Blower coolers. Made correctly (i.e. Pascal Founders Edition), it's very quiet and allows for safe temperatures and lets heat outta your case. And never leaks, unlike liquid cooling.

Blower coolers. Quiet. Pick one. 1080 Ti FE @40 dBA compared to 4090 FE @35 despite using twice the power.

420x140x60 (with 25 mm fans included in those 60) mm heatsink is the very definition of a compact ITX system ngl xDDDDDDDDD

Who's using a 420x140? I have 2x240x40.

20 FPS is 10% of 200 FPS which is insanely rich for what 2200 MHz OC can achieve over regular 2050 MHz air cooled OC. It doesn't scale linearly so your best bet is 5%, or 200 to 210 FPS. To understate it as much as it's possible, you need advanced vision to tell them apart not knowing it beforehand.

Stable 2200 MHz is definitely 10% faster than fluctuating 2050 air cooled, which is probably also clock stretching. You can see this in the Matrix review, where a "2.5%" OC results in 5% better performance.

Pumps ain't audible..? Noted.

A D5 set to 35% isn't, no. A AIO sure is.