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Scaleo E - Asus mobo

Dadooq

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I have a Fujitsu Scaleo E htpc. Mobo is Asus P5Q VM. The power on button doesn't work and never has but the machine for a long time worked fine. Turned off at the plug and rebooted ok when plugged back in. Now has stopped booting when plugged in. I know it can be booted by shorting power pins - I've seen it done - but Can't remember which pins are the ones to short. I know its a long shot, but could someone help with pics? Would it be safe to short these pins permanently with jumpers to leave in 'always on'?
 
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Why don't you just replace the power button on the case.
Yes shorting the pins will work, but keeping it shorted wont do anything.
In the manual there should be a picture that describes which pins to short for the power button to work.
Here is the manual:
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P5QVM/HelpDesk_Manual/
it's under the name VersionE3807
The part you are looking for is on page 42.
 

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shorting them always would make the system power on then off, then on, then off...

they need to be shorted briefly like when clicking a working power button.

why not open up the case and check the button is connected properly, or switch it with the reset button?
 

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Devon68, thanks for the help. Can now get it booted by shorting the pins. Several other threads (in other places) have said Scaleo button wired strangely. I was told by the guy who built the system that it would not be needed, which was true until recently. Don't know how just turning power on at the wall rebooted the machine but it did, for years!
Its a terrible spaghetti mess inside, dont know if I have the skill to replace the button or even check that its wired properly. Looks easier to maybe add new button by connecting the pins to homemade switch?
Anyway, thanks again.
 

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shorting them always would make the system power on then off, then on, then off...

they need to be shorted briefly like when clicking a working power button.

why not open up the case and check the button is connected properly, or switch it with the reset button?

Mussels, thanks for the reply. As you can see from my reply to Devon68, I'm not up to much diy in electronics. If there's any way of walking me through your suggestions, I'd be happy to try.
 

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Mussels, thanks for the reply. As you can see from my reply to Devon68, I'm not up to much diy in electronics. If there's any way of walking me through your suggestions, I'd be happy to try.

i will find pictures and use my terrible MS paint skills to help you.
See the red circle - that is your 'front panel' header. Power, reset, power/HDD lights and such connect there.
Making a mistake with wiring there cannot harm the PC, but could prevent it turning on until you wire up the button correctly (which sounds like you've already experienced)




This image from your manual should allow you to get the orientation right - simply make sure the wiring for your power button (it should be labelled on the black plastic part) is connected to the two 'power switch' pins. Should that button be broken you can use the reset button/wiring instead.
 

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Thanks for going to that trouble. The pins, which I have checked work by shorting them, are underneath a dvd drive, which can't be removed until I remove the pctv card ther are not leads attached to the pins. I have found what i believe is the cable from the power button which ends in two connectors of the sort that would fit on pins. One red one yellow, dont know if the colour coding is significant. Each of them has 4 holes and I suppose i could experiment to see which ones will fit correctly over the two power pins. Dont know why there are two connectors unless one of them is for reset - there is no reset button on the box -.
Anyway, thanks for your help.
 
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The wire ends should display + or - to correspond to the same markings on the board.
 

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red and white or yellow and white is common for the power.
connecting the wrong thing to those pins will do no harm - all those front panel wiring stuff is low voltage.

feel free to take a pic of the wires in question
 

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Here are some pics. I won't be able to do any more with this for a few days. Grandchildren arriving for birthday parties. will let you know how I get on - with power cable, not birthdays - meanwhile thanks again.
pins01.jpg

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oh ew, custom pin layouts :/
 
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Looks like someone replaced the proprietary motherboard with the Asus board.
Maybe salvage an on/ off switch from another case and use that.
 

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maybe thats why the power button never worked, someone did a mobo swap and never connected it.
 

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Its never been connected while I've had it. But still can't figure out how the box rebooted when turned off and on again at the wall.
 

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Its never been connected while I've had it. But still can't figure out how the box rebooted when turned off and on again at the wall.

thats a BIOS setting. You could short the power pins on the board briefly (i use a screwdriver) and set that up again.
 

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Situation now resolved. Many thanks Mussels and all who helped. Respect for the knowledge and kind attitude.
 
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