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so it's time for a new computer? or is there anything i can do for this dinosaur?

Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by AcerX, Mar 5, 2006.

  1. AcerX New Member

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    Hello i have a Micron PC. (don't laugh to hard!) Running a 1Ghz Tbird AMD Athlon.
    I've done a few upgrades over the years(yes that wasn't a typo) like memory up to 758MB
    ATI 9550 256MB. but i'm begining to guess that no matter how much you soup up a volkswagen, it still can't beat a ferrari!
    even with overclocking the vid card it struggles to render 45 FPS. it still works good enough for most games but the newer games, well lets just say its struggles very badly! lol
    i am somewhat computer literate, but i guess not quite in the league with some of you from what i've been reading on here.

    is there anything that can be done to help this poor old comp. or is it really time to put it out to pasture? ive tried tweaking windows, and other routes but nothing really seems to help. i tried the ATItool and even then i can barely get 55FPS at 400.50/220.19. i don't think its the card i'm begining to think its the old girl lol. any suggestions will be appreciated. thanks
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    i believe its time to have a massive upgrade.....
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    I smell a budget build!!! :) Come to me for cheap prices ;)
    Wait a couple weeks until the prices go down on the x1XXX series, and then I can get them alot cheaper than they are at stores :)
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    yeah, new computer lol.
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    How do you get components cheaper than retail?
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    keep that one as a spare or sell it on cheap.. and start from scratch with a new one..

    trog
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    Yeah thats what i figured. Looks like the wife gets a very nice solitaire game huh? lol
    Tax refund will come soon guess it time to get me a new machine! Bikr? what kinda deal ya gonna get me? :) pm me let me know man! cuz i'm definately interested!

    Thanks for the replies everyone. your technical info means alot!
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    You could do better I think AcerX.
    An AMD Athlon 3700+ is only going for $201 on newegg. And a gig of RAM can be gotten for under $100. Also, a good motherboard (non-SLI) will only go for about $80. Just get a nice case (round $50) and then a good Power supply (go with OCZ or Antec). All I am saying is that you could def. do better for about the same price. Dont forget that is w/o a GPU. So let us know your price limit and we will help out.

    Oh and Bikr are you a reseller? Just curious bc I was looking to get a retail licence and wanted to see if it was worth it?
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    alright but needs better graphics. if i were you, just get a good budget pc case (with window) and get graphics card like X800 GTO2 and just O/C.
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    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103598 <--processor $212.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136163 <--Motherboard $88.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119047 <--Case $44.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103937 <--PSU $68.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820134028 <--1GB RAM $96.88

    THat comes to $510.88 w/o a GPU but i do happen to have a Radeon 9550 256mb but i will prolly want a better card so gonna have to figure that one out still.

    but thats only like 65 bucks more then the comp i was looking at but in terms of components this build will blow that comp away lol so i do see your point. also if anyone sees anything wrong with the parts i picked please let me know. in terms of things won't work with eachother, etc. thanks
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    Unless u have a pci express 9550 somehow it aint going to work ur kinda required to get a new vid card.

    Nice setup for 500. Looks like someone is going to be overclocking if so i would suggest u get a diff heatsink for the cpu.
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    pci 9550 will work, but extremely slow for that setup. hmm.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102688
    might be abit of a push but well worth it if you can come up with the money (so maybe get the system use the 9550 wait and save up and perhaps when you have around 140$ saved it'll have dropped to there)
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    which is better in terms of performance in a video card... AGP or PCI.
    the ATI Radeon 9550 i have now is AGP card. and the new MOBO i'm looking at above doesn't even have an AGP slot?? so i guess i'm def gonna need a new vid card lol. i guess what i'm asking is would this card have been better as a PCI? is the PCI slot faster then the AGP slot? also i still have my old PNY Gforce MX420 64MB card it's PCI and seems to me did about the same as this 9550 even though it has 256mb of memory??
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    pci is slower than agp which in turn is slower than pciexpress. it's been the trasition of video card interface, I was merely suggesting buying the comp and using a pci video card until you're ready for a good upgrade, not just somethign thats going to work for now. the x850xt is a very good card for the money so if it were me I'd buy the system run the mx420 for a few weeks to a month while saving up and then get the x850xt. it'll easily outperform anything in it's price range.
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    "pci is slower than agp which in turn is slower than pciexpress"

    not exactly true being "slower".. more bandwidth yes.. but agp isnt slower as such than pci-e..

    i only mention this cos it the "salesmans" big sell.. "why yes of course sir.. pci-e is faster than agp".. when in most cases it gives no benefit at all..

    trog
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    I think your right, there is no benefit right now, but right not PCI-E is not being used at its full potential.
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    true.. but its amazing just how many folks think any old buget pci-e card will go better than a decent agp one just cos its psi-e..

    i recon a lot of people selling the damn things think it as well..

    trog
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    granted that the pcix bandwidth isn't being used to it's full potential but it doesn't change the fact that the slot itself is faster than the agp slot. thats why it bears the marker pcix16 and agp bears the marker agp8x. it's not propaganda it's simple truth. now will an x1600 at 200$ outperform an agp x850xt certainly not but it has nothing to do with the slot, it's the card. granted you'll probably not notice a difference from an x850xt agp to a pcix one at stock, you will however notice a difference when overclocking seeing as the agp platforms on a whole are slower than the modern pcix platforms and the gap gets wider when you put strain on the mobo chipset.
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    well you are exactly corect my friend. although a x1600 does come close to x800gtos and most are around 130-160 so if u want a spend a lil less and have sm3 then go for the x1600.
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    i might be a bit anal with words and how they are used.. but to me the only time a four lane highway is faster than a two lane highway is when the two lane highway gets gridlocked..

    being able to handle a greater flow if needed dont make a thing faster when that greater flow isnt needed.. and in the case of the vast majority of grfx cards that flow isnt needed so the two lane highway is just as fast..

    a 512 card could be said to have more bandwidth than a 256 card.. err "faster" but when it gets stuck on a mid-range grfx card it dosnt make that card faster.. in fact it dosnt even make the high-end cards "faster" having that extra "bandwidth"..

    bandwidth only effects speed when that bandwidth isnt enough.. and to me capacity and speed have two completley different meanings.. i dont think they should be muddled up..

    and the computer industry is a little too free with its muddling up of the two completely different words.. all too often extra capacity is used to mean extra speed when it dosnt mean any such thing..

    as i say.. i am a bit anal with the meaning of words.. he he he..

    i also recon all news is "properganda".. the only things that aint are the things u get to find out that u shouldnt be finding out.. we live in a b-llshit age once u let em muddle the words up they can make u believe whatever they want u to believe.. he he

    trog
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    I know people who get the stuf shipped directly from manufacturers and whatnot
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