Discussion in 'News' started by qubit, Jan 19, 2012.
WOO , Hallelujah , HOLLY SHIT Where's the Tylenol !
Fuuuuuuuu sopa pipa & acta!
OMFG this comment section resembles youtube's comment section, pathetic arguing --_--
What is Pathetic is people just do not get involved more with what the government is doing NOT TILL it hit HOME . Now that it is hitting home things are starting to stir .
Just because you're clicking a button doesn't mean you're getting involved with the government.
When was the last time you actually voted for something in your state?
November 8th, Texas Amendments here. That's participating...
And you claim I had no idea the government already monitors my phone calls, but that's common sense after the 9/11 attacks, specifically the Patriot Act that Bush signed.... I actually know quite a bit, and I'm not scared of SOPA.
And how come you're not protesting the Patriot Act?
Just because you're not clicking a button doesn't mean the government won't be getting involved with you.
Since when did "participation" have to be restricted to voting?
That's like saying destroying the Berlin Wall by the Germans themselves isn't "participation" simply because they didn't "vote" to destroy the Wall beforehand.
WTF? So you're now implying that to go against SOPA means there should be "fear" in you beforehand? You mean, you can't go against something if you don't fear that something itself?
I could not have said it better myself THANK YOU !!! I am against this crap I am against BIG GOVERNMENT Against them taking away my rights ! Yes This is an infringement on my rights !
Dude, that's a fail analogy because the Berlin Wall was torn down from an uprising, and unless you physically participated in tearing it down, just being a citizen doesn't make you apart of the cause.
And I admit that I was being an extremist when I said voting is participating, but 99% of the internet didn't know of SOPA until it already reached the House, so to say you had participated is ignorant, because it's out of your hands and into your representatives.
All I was implying was ME, personally, am not going to be afraid of the government just because it passes, if it passes.
@entropy13: lol getting worked up here eh? maybe you can join the discussion on the current ongoing impeachment trial of the Chief Justice in our country in TPC (oh wait, you hate TPC now, my bad hehe)
Dude, that's a fail interpretation from what I've just said, dude.
Which is not even being disputed by anyone, anywhere anyway. "Being afraid" and "fear" isn't even being talked about here. Specifically, "personal fear", but rather the "fear" that a neutral and free internet would no longer be neutral and free. Not necessarily that they are "fearful" of themselves.
We're better off to have had that "suspicious briefcase" be a real bomb so that all the senators die, as well as Corona, the SC bldg, House of Representatives, etc. Back to zero, so to speak. Nothing would really change since all Philippine politics are just "democracy among elites" ever since the US took over in 1899.
And you're under the assumption that you're no longer going to have freedom if this passes.
That's called fascism.
I don't even know why you're arguing with me. You're allowed to your opinions and views and I'm allowed to mine.
I'm more worried about this. "Obama Signs NDAA" http://www.unelected.org/goodbye-bill-of-rights-obama-signs-ndaa
Check this out
http://www.dailytech.com/Obama Admi... Author Caught Stealing Work/article23783.htm
Nice. Even the author doesn't realise the impact this law will have.
No, I'm under the assumption that THE INTERNET would no longer have that "freedom". Why do you keep on putting things on a personal level anyway? Does freedom only work in an "individual level" now?
What saddens me is that this will go trough and there is nothing we can do about it. But that's the nature of this country, pay taxes for every friggin' s**t. :shadedshu
EDIT: But hey, since I'm paying a tax that is made to cover for lost revenue due to piracy (which I already do when I buy CD/songs/etc...), that will just mean I will stop buying everything and just DL it. After all, I already paid for it.
EDIT 2: The sooner newegg starts shipping to Europe, the better. They have a whole country waiting to be able to buy.
Hate to bring politics in the discussion, but could the president theoretically end all these bills (SOPA ACTA PIPA) or at least make them stall under his presidency if he would only wanted too?
I'm impressed, www.wired.com are still holding their protest and have the front page censored right now.
He can veto it, but if both the House of Representatives and the Senate manage to override the veto through a two-thirds vote for each chambers, then the bill still becomes law.
Thanks I was kinda hoping this guy would have the power to go against the bills in case he would be elected president...
I sort of agree with Undead46, but for different reasons.
I believe people should be free to do as they wish, however, your rights end where another person's rights begin.
And if YouTube, Twitter, eBay, Facebook et al disappear from the Internet, I would would not even notice, because I do not use any of them.
And, the last movie I went to was the world premiere of The Wall in L.A. in 1982.
This is only if you infringe on the same rights as the other person . So many people take this out of context . Hollywood has rights but they are now wanting to infringe on my rights ! So my rights have to be taken away because they say so ? I do not think so ! But again ignorance is bliss . Just how much do they take till you say enough is enough ? Really by that time it is too late . Just look what happened to the Jews in Germany ! That is a PRIME example of people letting there rights go with out any fight at all then when they were all taken and had enough it was just too late . Maybe you should watch this just watch it . It just might make you smarter . http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TbNIU2KEz4g
It is too late to dig a well when you are thirsty !
" How do you know the constitutions hasn't been perverted if you haven't read IT " !!!!! Words of wisdom !!!
I read the above several times, but I am not fully comprehending the point you are trying to make?
Regarding infringing on the same rights, for example, are you saying I have the right to steal as long as the person I am stealing from is also stealing from someone? Or perhaps I should be permitted to kill someone because they also killed a person?
Would you be so kind as to elucidate your reference to Hollywood infringing upon your rights?
I do not do YouTube, so I will have to pass on whatever it is...
What part of the Constitution are you referencing, in particular?
I believe we actually agree on some points, but it is hard to tell about others.
The fact Obama signed the NDAA and you people are still worried about SOPA proves to me you are already sheep. SOPA is a dream compared to the NDAA. But since it doesn't effect your free warze you don't care. But you will when you say something online and they deem you an enemy of the state.
Let me see here Hollywood has the right to free speech yet they want to take this right away from you and me . Just how will they do this ? Lets say you are taking a video and in the back ground your T.V. is on playing a movie that just happens to be caught on camera well with the law passing YOU WILL BE IN VIOLATION and punished under said LAW ! The site will be as well taken down fined or any other such punishment they Deem necessary ! Now this will also go for any thing that is heard as well . Now kids taking videos singing along with there favorite song will also be in violation of the law as it is written . So free expression is NOW OUT THE WINDOW subjugated to the law of Hollywood ! So now impersonations of your favorite songs and even actors is now subject to approval from the Government and Hollywood !
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