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Is an independant Scotland going to be bad for the remainder of the Un-United Kingdom?

Poll closed Today at 6:55 PM.
  1. Yes without a doubt it would have serious social/economic repercussions

    37.5%
  2. Yes but only a marginal effect

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    0.0%
  3. No not at all but would prefer we remain intact anyway

    25.0%
  4. No not at all, they can do whatever they want, we will be better off without them

    0 vote(s)
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  5. Does anyone outside of Scotland really care anyway?

    37.5%
  1. Fourstaff

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    So much shit happening! I understand that Middle East is rising up against dictators and people like that, but what are the British rioters doing?
     
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    Creating a fire sale.
     
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    Literally why are we arresting these people,they wasted people homes and stores which EVERYONE pay tax for. Putting them in prison,there wasting people tax too. Dump them on an isolated island or better yet.
    Bring back capital punishment for certain criteria in crimes.
     
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    +1 Totally agree with that, it's been much needed for a long time now.
     
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    Yeah i mean we have no space in prison to keep them now,people paying tax for these people locked in.
     
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    Doesn't that just scream out HELP!

    Source Bromley Prision
     
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    I hardly think topping off people because they rioted is a good idea. Punishment doesn't fit the crime. I have a zero tolerance for capital punishment, i just dont think its right. Who are you to decide who lives and who dies?

    You can fine people and make em do jail time fucking up their records but id have some do community service cleaning up the mess. I know it costs money but its called rehabilitation. Knocking people off only effects the ones that get caught, when you help a person it benefits more than one.

    They are considering water cannons but there is a few that are against it, tasers can make people have a cardiac arrest but what's a bit of water going to do? Make people disperse probably. Its a much better tactic than using the Army, this country isn't a police state. You lot already used government troops to quell us Scots once upon a time.

    Re offenders need more than the same of the same, a threat of death isn't going to stop serial criminals or the insane either. Cant we just copy a country with a good track record of rehabilitation and crime prevention?
     
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    On a more positive note despite this weeks doom, gloom, being without electricity for 2 days, having 3 police cars, 1 bus, 1 Aldi supermarket, 1 jewelers, 1 hairdressers 1 postoffice, 1 carpetland burnt to the ground not even 10mins away from me and my house nearly set on fire....

    (another day in Afganistan i should say...)


    my Scythe Typhoons arrived not even 30mins ago & has been installed. I have to say I am totally loving these already.

    coolant is 30'c at 20.7'c ambient. only problem with this set up is i can still hear the pump - the pump is louder then both the fans put together thats how fucking awesome these AP-15's are.

    these fans are 10x better then the stock Antec fans that came with the Kuhler 920. at least now. the Antec and my GPUs wont be competeting on who can make the most noise when it comes to BC2. (6970s win hands down for that one)
     
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    I'm talking in general Kieran about bringing back Capital punishment,do you really think its worth keeping a murderer who have murdered 2 or more people in prison?? They didn't learn their lesson so they continue to commit crimes. Those are the type of people deserve to go under the capital punishment.
    Like i said in my post,they should legislate Capital punishment but people will have to fit in certain criteria,such as murder and rape.
    You think people that murdered Mily dowler or the dude Peter Toben should be in prison?? Peter Toben murdered more than 5 girls and got away from it until recently his now in prison for life. I believe they should in an certain extent,government will be able to save money. I could state more but i can't remember them all on top of my head.
    They the Conservatives wants to reduce the current prisoners sentence by 50%,because we don't have the money to keep them in prison. Now you think people would want Conservatives to be in power?? I don't think so,reduced the police service and want to reduce prison sentence is complete bull shit if you ask me.
     
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    Tobins done the crimes i mean you cant get the people back getting him killed would be a case of revenge, hes like a one off i dont think there are many serial killers in Britain like him. To many people in general where getting sentenced to death and where innocent or there was doubts around the crime. People with mental health issues is another story. I dont see how a life is worth money. Cut down on the repeat criminals like the assaults or the burglars and make jail less cushty. Lots of short term sentence repeat offenders cost the state the most money.

    In China you can get the death sentence for a lot of stuff, a Brit was sentenced to death for drug smuggling i think a year ago. Ah sure its a terrible crime but a death sentence? Police state or what man.
     
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    Would rather have a police state than a rioting state. At least I can go out to find hookers in the former.
     
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    Thing is if you look at how low some countries with corporal punishment too,the rate of crime is quite low aswell. I can't remember which country like if you steal you get one of your fingers broken or something.
    In my opinion,they should bring back Corporal punishment because it may lower crime rate as people will be a lot scared of getting themselves with broken limbs.
    And as for Capital punishment,that should come back but people will have to fall under certain criteria depending on the time of crime they have committed,obviously i know people got hung for something they didn't do,obviously they will need do a thorough investigation before giving capital punishment to the crime they committed,if it falls under the legislation if they reinstate it.
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    Our Legal system is one of the best in the world,but we are also one of the softest one too,if we harm someone it breach the human rights act etc etc.
     
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    i come up with a plan years ago to ease this situation:
    so parts of africa are desolate and costing billions annually in aid etc,which only goes to warlords to sell to those in need,so why not send those with 5 years+ sentences to farm the land,work will become second nature aswell as the ethic of legit money=peace of mind/no looking over the shoulder.
    The knock on effects are:
    less people in prison wasting tax payers money
    africa gets a chance to stand on a fair footing
    if the prisoners try running,well they take there own chances
    human rights people will bitch
    more of a chance for reform than being banged up with other criminals spouting glory stories,influencing lesser criminals into the ideology of crime pays them that dont get caught
     
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    Pretty much what we did when we sent them to Australia and now look at that place.... damn sight better than here!
     
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    it clearly works then!
    maybe we could give a shorter sentence to whoever tops mugabe
     
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    I like you're thinking MM...

    MM for MP!
     
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    regular Price £279.99!! Todays special offer £279.99!! Buy yours today while stocks last.....Wait..wut??
     
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    Im stuck deciding if its worth taking part in a trade in scheme for a netbook. If i trade in my old laptop, i can get anywhere between £50-100. the netbook in question is gonna cost around £300ish. Comes with 1Gb DDR3 but im gonna up that to 2Gb.

    My laptop has been good to me, but i think i need something with a lot lot longer battery life and im willing to forfit power for something a little more 'practical' to my current needs.
     
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    Mighty Mission for President!
    no more mashing up the residents :D
    make a change and set a precedent
    no more ministers that are irrelevant
    Bow down boris and cameron in deference
    to Mighty Mission the Dissident!

    Mwahaha :roll:
     
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    Specs? If its Bobcat or better processor+graphics combo sure why not. If its Atom you are better off keeping your old laptop.
     
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    It only does not work because generally prisons are too soft, even Cat A prisons are not what they used to be. I suggest a more labour/concentration style camp where for the sentence, offenders work like animals on just enough food, they service, produce and maintain for the tax payer, without pay and priveleges.... then at the end of it all, let's have some decent and funded resettlement programmes to actually get them into work and education...... lets see if they wanna go back as quick then!
     
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    Exactly. However, like I posted pages ago, test 'pharmaceuticals' on the really evil crims.
     
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    This is the netbook im looking at
     

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