Unsupported Processor detected

[i1yas]

hey guys
i have a serious problem not very serious.my Asus p8h61 mlx is gone dead.when i try to eject processor i5 2500 accidentally one of capacitor or i dont know what it is.its colors is brown under the processor is drop i check the display.on my dell pc which is i3 2120 with DH61HO and get a message unsupported version of processor detected and some kind 65w TDP i dont remeber whole message.i want to know is my processor is all okay?i want to order a new motherboard is it will be waste of money or its okay my processor will work?
i live far away from city in country side so i don't have a time to go city and check it on another motherboard..

 

[INSTG8R]

Could you possibly post a picture of the "damage"? Things falling off your CPU is never good.

 

[i1yas]

here is Pic

http://i.imgur.com/d0ciMll.jpg

 

[INSTG8R]

So what you circled is now missing? If so I am sad to say you have probably killed that CPU. I wouldn't trust it in a motherboard.

 

[i1yas]

luckily i save this tiny thing.but it is so small.i have a friend in town who repair electronics but he is worried may be heat gun pressure damage inside circuit of chip by heat coz he dont know about computer hardware..just TV DVD type electronics.
and also you mean a damage processor can give display but can not work properly?

 

[INSTG8R]

It could go up in a puff of smoke for all you know. It might just do nothing and never post. It might take out the motherboard you put it in. Anything bad is possible with it missing components.

 

[Silas Woodruff]

It could go up in a puff of smoke for all you know. It might just do nothing and never post. It might take out the motherboard you put it in. Anything bad is possible with it missing components.

He says that he knows someone who might repair the CPU but that guy fears he might damage-kill the CPU with the heat generated from soldering back the fallen part because he fixes house hold electronics and not CPU's.

 

[Naito]

luckily i save this tiny thing.but it is so small.i have a friend in town who repair electronics but he is worried may be heat gun pressure damage inside circuit of chip by heat coz he dont know about computer hardware..just TV DVD type electronics...

A heat gun is a bit too crude for such a job and will probably damage the CPU further as you mentioned. Hand soldering is nigh impossible due to the scale of the components (cleaning of the old solder and re-soldering of the component). Your best bet, which may still cause damage of to the CPU (heat may cause more components to dislodge/stress the die), would be to use solder paste from a syringe and a reflow oven, but again, this method is near impossible due to the size and proximity of the components. Something like a Mantis would have to be used to apply the solder paste and position the capacitor.

Since a fault with the board (probably the power delivery) caused the capacitor to fall off (even if brittle solder join, still would require a fair bit of heat), it is likely that both components are dead.

 

[Beertintedgoggles]

Those caps aren't too tough to replace. If your friend has any skill with a traditional soldering iron he should be fine. If the CPU is already suspect then why not take a chance, especially if you saved the component that fell off? I've soldered quite a few 0603 package sized SMT caps and resistors without issue and I don't consider my skills as being that superior.

 

[Naito]

I've soldered quite a few 0603 package sized SMT caps and resistors without issue and I don't consider my skills as being that superior.

I'd say they're a tad smaller than that [on second thoughts, maybe not], but worth a try nonetheless. OP will have a dud processor by not trying, or may have a working processor after trying.

 

[INSTG8R]

I'd say they're a tad smaller than that, but worth a try nonetheless. OP will have a dud processor by not trying, or may have a working processor after trying.

Pretty much. I mean missing that cap means "dead" so no hurt in at least trying to bring it back to life by any means necessary.

 

[i1yas]

he place that component but he don't know about its polarities but its fixed now.i think there is no need to worry about taking risk if its probably dead becoz of this component.i place order of new board i will receive tomorrow or day after tomorrow.but how i will come to know that my cpu is working fine at its full performance?

 

[Frick]

It's a capacitor of the bipolar persuasion.

 

[i1yas]

It's a capacitor of the bipolar persuasion.

you mean there is no polarity of this thing?

 

[i1yas]

and one thing i want to know that what is the main thing which make a mother board dead.sorry for not having good english but i think you can understand what i want to ask.mean my pc was running good but my bro shut it down properly but after that its dead.ehat i figure out is that its was on ground becoz i was cleaning my computer table..what do you think?

 

[i1yas]

I got New Mobo Asus P8H61M-K and test my repaired CPU its working fine i did lots of stress test 15 min Burn in test and Prime 95 test.i record temperature which is okay acording to me image is
http://i.imgur.com/cbOnTvj.png

but i m Getting one error at start just like Title of this thread which is Cpu is not supported but after pressing F1 for Continue system bootup..i did some research and Get to know that my new MOBO Support CPU UPTO 70w bellow is the link of specification of my new MOBO..what you guys Think is everyything is okay?

http://www.asus.com/pk/Motherboards/H61MK/specifications/

 

[RCoon]

Out of blind curiosity, have you updated the BIOS on your MoBo?

 

[Naito]

but i m Getting one error at start just like Title of this thread which is Cpu is not supported but after pressing F1 for Continue system bootup..i did some research and Get to know that my new MOBO Support CPU UPTO 70w bellow is the link of specification of my new MOBO..what you guys Think is everyything is okay?

The i5-2500 (K and non-K) are not supported by that board, probably because their TDP is around 95W if I recall correctly.

These are the only i5-2500 models supported (as they use 65W and 45W respectively):

Core i5-2500S
Core i5-2500T

For a more comprehensive list, click here.

 

[Aquinus]

Your motherboard doesn't list the i5-2500 as a supported CPU, only the low power i5/i7 variants are listed.
http://www.asus.com/pk/Motherboards/H61MK/HelpDesk_CPU/

I suspect that if you run it too hard you might kill the board and CPU by overworking the VRMs. Also the VRMs don't have a heat sink. Full load for extended periods could damage your machine.

The motherboard is right, it's not "supported" in the sense that it eats more power than the board supports and by the supported CPU list.

Out of blind curiosity, have you updated the BIOS on your MoBo?

I don't think that will matter. The 2500 isn't supported on this board according to ASUS' site for any BIOS revision.

 

[i1yas]

Out of blind curiosity, have you updated the BIOS on your MoBo?

Yes i updated Bios to latest one available.

 

[Naito]

You're using a budget board to run a fairly powerful CPU which has a TDP that exceeds the power circuitry on it (as Aquinus mentioned). It is probably for this very reason it is not supported. Probably best to find a more upmarket board and double check that it lists your i5-2500 in the supported CPU list.

 

[i1yas]

You mean cpu not supported becoz of mobo and i should change this mobo?

 

[Naito]

You mean cpu not supported becoz of mobo and i should change this mobo?

Yes. It seems to be the issue.

 

[blobster21]

You mean cpu not supported becoz of mobo and i should change this mobo?

precisely.

 

[i1yas]

I m shutting down Two cores becoz new mobo will deliver by Monday.it will help for two days or i should wait for new mobo.