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Water cooling: How do I select the parts?

Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by germs, Aug 30, 2008.

  1. germs New Member

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    So I decided to go with water cooling for the lower noise and the chill factor so I can OC higher. I've read guides, but they don't really tell me all the info I need.

    So far, this is all I think I can be sure about getting:

    1/2 inch tygon tubing

    I just don't know how to tell what waterblocks are better than others, or even what radiators work best, or what pumps to buy. Can anyone help me understand how to make an educated choice on this stuff? I was told that I should go to petrastechshop.com and order there by a few buddies of mine.

    Like I said, I have no idea how to choose. By the way, money isn't a big issue with this; I just don't want to spend too much more than $300, which I think is pretty reasonable, though I have no backing for that opinion.
     
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    A good place to start would be the Water Cooling Club: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=52032

    it has some nice recommendations, and general info.

    Get a general idea of what is needed for a setup, and what kind of budget you plan to have, and post back.
     
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    what are you looking to cool just CPU or more ?
     
  4. germs New Member

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    Thanks for the link Wile E. After reading that, I realized that I don't have the time or the money at this point to get the best stuff and do it right. I will definitely refer back to this post when I have the time though.

    Need to buy a laptop for college soon anyway!
     
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    What is your budget?
     
  6. germs New Member

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    About 300, but I don't want anything but the best. Besides, I realized I just don't have the time to do it right now.
     
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    you can always go with the CoolIt system which is probably the best non-custom CPU water cooling system. Very low maintenance
     
  8. Wile E

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    $300 is plenty for a kick ass setup. Just let us know when you feel you have the time.
     
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    i beg to differ...
    I had the freezone elite...that thing blew chunks....
    i replaced it w/ the themal?... v1 and have lower idle and load temps
     
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    start here link
    if you ?s after that....ask
     
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    OK. Instead of link pointing, I'll try and give some real info.

    1) Freezone systems are not what they appear. Expensive, loud, and no worky. It is an interesting idea, but lousy execution with way too many compromises. Biggest waste of $300 I ever had.

    2) It does take time to get this stuff to work properly. But not that much money. $300 is plenty to get a good setup. You can actually do it for much less. The only thing that matters in reality is have a decent pump that won't die.

    3) For a decent CPU, you do NOT need 1/2 tubing. In fact, 1/4 in will get the job done just fine for just a CPU. I run 3 GPUs and 1 CPU with a 1/2 trunk and 1/4 to each device and it works perfectly. Never get beyond 36-38 even under total load, with the room warm.

    4) Danger Den and Swiftech each have decent kits for around $200 that give you everything you need.

    5) You don't need massive tubing, radiators, or even pumps to get good cooling. You need to pull away the heat that the CPU produces efficiently and dispose of it into the atmosphere. 1 small 120MM rad and fan will get the job done, especially with a low power CPU.

    6) You can get a used Thermaltake Symphony or mini, or a Zalman Reserator (sp?) and screw the water block into the CPU and be done. Takes about 10 minutes.

    7) Don't listen to the massive purists and fantasizers who talk about this stuff like its some kind of mystery. If all you want is to reduce noise, you can do this for $100 bucks if you shop around.

    8) If you're not up to the mechanical part, then get a pre assembled kit.

    9) Massive overclocking is a different mission than heat and noise reduction when it comes to water cooling. If you want massive overclocking from your water cooling setup, then there is some engineering associated with it. If its just heat and noise reduction, like I said, the all in 1s or kits are perfectly fine.

    10) If you really want to get rid of heat and noise, you don't need water cooling. Just a decent giant heatsink/fan (like Ximatek S1283, Zalman 9700, or Thermalright Ultra 120) with a fan controller.

    11) For noise, a decent sound insulation kit will do a great job.

    Good luck!
     
  12. Wile E

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    We weren't blowing him off by posting links. I gave him the link to a good resource, where much of this is already covered, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It saves us time, and it still lets him know what's involved. I'm sure the OP doesn't mind.

    I agree with much of your post, but when somebody posts like this saying they want to spend $300 for better cooling, that kinda counts out all-in-one kits. Lets face it, properly built $300 water cooling setups far out perform ANY all-in-one. If he would have said $150-200, all-in-ones from Swiftech (or similar performing competitors) make much more sense.

    I, however, disagree with number 6. Never, under any circumstances, buy a Thermaltake watercooling setup. Shitty, under performing blocks and pumps. You're better off with top end air.

    Besides, all of this is moot. He already stated he's needing a laptop for school more than water cooling.
     
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    what components did you want to water cool?
    just the cpu? mosfets? chipsets? gpu(s)?
    dont forget about the rest of your mobo...
     

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