What Card to Buy?

[Haz197]

Lawl, no Nvidia's please. I prefer ATi, better IQ, better drivers, similar performance(soon to be more), and great dual/tri/quad gpu support.

Yep, Canadian's love their ATi...Could care less about AMD, Ithem, but they gotta get their heads out of their a**'s:shadedshu

I must admit I'm mighty tempted to get the r700 myself, always been a red, ever since my 9700pro .... Agreed bout AMD !!

 

[Haz197]

Oh don't worry Urb, I reported his trolling acts. I do have to say you are making a wise decision though.

give ur head a wobble dude, lol !

How is offering an alternative trolling? You trying to say that I'm full of shit?

My overclock on a £150 card with £5 worth of maplin junk and a multimeter:



http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6488896

He might not have been aware of the price-performance ratio of the older G92 cards ?? ...... which is very good atm, especially with a quick and easy solderless volt mod.

I'd say ur comment is trolling m8, just posting for a bit of attention without any real substance, attempting, and suceeding, to antagonise .......

 

[Urbklr]

He might not have been aware of the price-performance ratio of the older G92 cards ?? ...... which is very good atm, especially with a quick and easy solderless volt mod.

I'm well aware of the price-performance ratio, I'm just not using Nvidia, that simple.

 

[Haz197]

I'm well aware of the price-performance ratio, I'm just not using Nvidia, that simple.

m8 ..... rof........I was making some what of a rhetorical statement, you know ??? ..... wasn't saying you were or were not aware, just that the fact that your awareness of the price/performance ratio of volt modded g92 cards had not been mentioned in the thread .....

and.......

as this is a forum .........

I was under the impression all advice and opinions were welcome?

and deffo don't like being flamed (not by you) for offering you advice that you DIDN'T say NOT to give at the beginning ..... lmao.

 

[Urbklr]

m8 ..... rof........I was making some what of a rhetorical statement, you know ??? ..... wasn't saying you were or were not aware, just that the fact that your awareness of the price/performance ratio of volt modded g92 cards had not been mentioned in the thread .....

and.......

as this is a forum .........

I was under the impression all advice and opinions were welcome?

and deffo don't like being flamed (not by you) for offering you advice that you DIDN'T say NOT to give at the beginning ..... lmao.

I clearly gave the choice's in post #1, PLUS...This is in the AMD/ATi section. I was not flaming you in any way, just making it clear that I knew the price/performance ratio. Like many people, I am not interested in Nvidia whatsoever. I stated that earlier, and yet you come back and try to "prove" your G92 again. Please post useful comments, since this is a forum

 

[JrRacinFan]

@Haz

I know Urb, if he is pretty close to deciding something, he will do it. Plain and simple. You coming in his thread throwing it off topic for him wondering if he should purchase an ATi card, with your G92 suggestions IN BASICS is called trolling.

I understand your point, and I am not being a jerk towards you. And if you beleive for one moment I am truly posting this to be a jerk, you are completely wrong man.

PS: Neither myself or Urb are fanboi's. Please remember that.And if I had offended you I am sorry.

@Urb

After thinking about it, Single HD4870 or bust. Do you know why I say that? You can add a second HD4870 later on. With the dual 3870's, you can't, just my theory and trying to help.

 

[Haz197]

I clearly gave the choice's in post #1, PLUS...This is in the AMD/ATi section. I was not flaming you in any way, just making it clear that I knew the price/performance ratio. Like many people, I am not interested in Nvidia whatsoever. I stated that earlier, and yet you come back and try to "prove" your G92 again. Please post useful comments, since this is a forum

plz..... I'm gonna get upset if you keep calling me a nvidia fanboi

My point, obviously escaping you, is that this thread will not just influence your decision, but the decision of many others no doubt, and my little tit bit (no pun intended ) might prove of use to some ???

but nvm, I got stats to analyse, back to work

@JR ... no probs dude, was just offering some diversity

 

[Urbklr]

After thinking about it, Single HD4870 or bust. Do you know why I say that? You can add a second HD4870 later on. With the dual 3870's, you can't, just my theory and trying to help.

Yea, I'm thinkin now...4870, if they come on Monday. If they don't, then I may get a 4850(if they perform well) with an aftermarket cooler...vmod's and oc'ing anyone? But, Keep in mind I would really like to have two leftover cards, for the HTPC and my Bro's. I'll be getting a 48xx within the first second there on sale at NCIX if they are plenty fast(which the 4850 is lookin real promising). If there not, then I'll be getting the 2 3870's.

 

[Urbklr]

plz..... I'm gonna get upset if you keep calling me a nvidia fanboi

My point, obviously escaping you, is that this thread will not just influence your decision, but the decision of many others no doubt, and my little tit bit (no pun intended ) might prove of use to some ???

but nvm, I got stats to analyse, back to work

@JR ... no probs dude, was just offering some diversity

Where did I call you a fanboy?....Like I said, this is the AMD section, people looking for either company's card, can steer themselves to the "Graphics Cards" section.

 

[Haz197]

Where did I call you a fanboy?....Like I said, this is the AMD section, people looking for either company's card, can steer themselves to the "Graphics Cards" section.

lighten up dude, lol, didn't you see the

It's not like I was saying ...'buy a G92 or I'll kill all your goats, burn your barn to the ground and sell your women into slavery'

I'm gonna go trawl some threads in the Intel section and kik ass on everyone who has mentioned AMD, hehehehehehe.

 

[Urbklr]

SOOO, moving on. Any other helpful advice?

 

[Urbklr]

@Haz, its official

R770--><--Your G92

R770 is looking VERY promising.....I'm defiantly picking up a 4850, or if I can get the money, a 4870

 

[Haz197]

@Haz, its official

R770--><--Your G92

R770 is looking VERY promising.....I'm defiantly picking up a 4850, or if I can get the money, a 4870

errrrr .......... are you for real m8? lmao !!!!

Was there ever any doubt that rv770xt + GDDR5 wouldn't beat g92? I think not ...... it's more expensive, tool, so as a rule it should be faster ??

I guess the finer points of marketing are lost on you so let me explain ......

If something is more expensive in a highly competetive market, it is, 99% of the time, because it commands a higher perceived value to the consumer, in this case more fps ......... (3 years of uni to learn that, hehehehe)

4850 will be an interesting one tho, it should be about the same as a g92 + volt mod kit, £150 or so.

Be nice to see what you get vs mine @ 935 / 2125 / 2200.

You'll ave to be quick tho m8, my g92 is going up 4 sale as soon as Microdirect get some 4870 1gb gddr5s in stock ........ should go nicely with my new Raid 0 set up, and new 2 x 2gb flex pc9200 @ 1.2ghz

Only thing left to do is to pursuade my bird that I really really really do need a new grafix card ......... shouldn't be hard, women don't understand these things like we do .................

C'mon you REDs !!!! LIVERPOOL .... LIVERPOOL ..... LIVERPOOL !!!!

 

[Urbklr]

The 4850 beats everything Nvidia has to offer, short of the GTX260/280 or GX2, at $199....and handles AA like nothing

 

[Haz197]

The 4850 beats everything Nvidia has to offer, short of the GTX260/280 or GX2, at $199....and handles AA like nothing

yes, its very very good, but it doesn't beat everything apart from gt200s ........

9800gtx beats it, 9800gtx v2, 9800gx2 ......... and lets not forget .... 9800gtx Haz super minta, limited stoner bwai edition @ 935, all beat it without AA in most titles tested.

Where the 4850 really shines is its AA performance, but 800sp ?? I sure hope it kiks ass with AA !!!

Oh and ...... 75c idle ? won't need to go in the kitchen to make a pot of tea

9800gtx vs hd4870 will be like 9700pro vs 4600ti .... ATI all the way baby !!

 

[Urbklr]

yes, its very very good, but it doesn't beat everything apart from gt200s ........

9800gtx beats it, 9800gtx v2, 9800gx2 ......... and lets not forget .... 9800gtx Haz super minta, limited stoner bwai edition @ 935, all beat it without AA in most titles tested.

Where the 4850 really shines is its AA performance, but 800sp ?? I sure hope it kiks ass with AA !!!

Oh and ...... 75c idle ? won't need to go in the kitchen to make a pot of tea

9800gtx vs hd4870 will be like 9700pro vs 4600ti .... ATI all the way baby !!

Lawl

Have you checked out the 4850 reviews?...If not, you'll be surprised...and be left to wonder "How much is the 4870 gonna kick @$$?"

Edit: 9800GTX does not beat it, an overclocked one will, but comparing an overclocked card to a stock one is not a fair comparison.

 

[Haz197]

Lawl

Have you checked out the 4850 reviews?...If not, you'll be surprised...and be left to wonder "How much is the 4870 gonna kick @$$?"

Edit: 9800GTX does not beat it, an overclocked one will, but comparing an overclocked card to a stock one is not a fair comparison.

Agreed, 4870 will rule all !!

And, yes, ur right, not a fair comparison, we should really be comparing RV670 to G92 ..... RV770 is a whole new kinda animal and should be up against gtx 260 as they are both multi GPU dies of the 'budget ??' variety

"And the car bomb,... click,..... ticks with the same sound......."

 

[Urbklr]

Agreed, 4870 will rule all !!

And, yes, ur right, not a fair comparison, we should really be comparing RV670 to G92 ..... RV770 is a whole new kinda animal and should be up against gtx 260 as they are both multi GPU dies of the 'budget ??' variety

"And the car bomb,... click,..... ticks with the same sound......."

The GTX260 and 280 are both single GPU cards. The 4870X2 is gonna own the GTX280, plain and simple

 

[Haz197]

The GTX260 and 280 are both single GPU cards. The 4870X2 is gonna own the GTX280, plain and simple

nope .... They're both multi core dies, like a core 2 duo or quad,.. I'm sure I read somewhere that the 4870 is 4 x cores on a single die and GT200 is just 2x G92s slapped 2geva on a single die..

Obvoiusly all GPUs are 'multi core' in the literal sense, 800sp = 800 seperate little parallel cores all working together, but these new cards are true multi core dies, Ati has been threatening to go this way for ages, just glad its finally here, roll on HD6870, 32 cores on 32nm fab'd die

 

[Urbklr]

nope .... They're both multi core dies, like a core 2 duo or quad,.. I'm sure I read somewhere that the 4870 is 4 x cores on a single die and GT200 is just 2x G92s slapped 2geva on a single die..

Obvoiusly all GPUs are 'multi core' in the literal sense, 800sp = 800 seperate little parallel cores all working together, but these new cards are true multi core dies, Ati has been threatening to go this way for ages, just glad its finally here, roll on HD6870, 32 cores on 32nm fab'd die

No, there not dual-core GPU's. GT200 is a whole new core, like 7900GTX-->8800GTX. The 4870 is a single GPU, just like the 4850 and 38xx line.

 

[Haz197]

No, there not dual-core GPU's. GT200 is a whole new core, like 7900GTX-->8800GTX. The 4870 is a single GPU, just like the 4850 and 38xx line.

I think you're confusing multi die solutions with multi core dies m8,.....

The 7950gx2 and 9800gx2 and hd3870x2 and x1950pro dual had 2 GPUs with one processing core on each,.....

The GT200 core is 2 x G92s in a single package, the GTX280 gx2 will be 4 x G92 cores in 2 x packages.... all based on G80 btw, no new architecture this gen

The HD4870 is rumoured to be a quad core, some even speculate it might have as many as 8 cores per die, which would be nice.... based on r600, no new architecture here either

You should read up on multi core GPUs, there is lots of info on google about these two card generations.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4327&Itemid=1

 

[Urbklr]

No, I didn't get them mixed up. The GT200 is NOT 2xG92, just look at the specs, it is a new architecture. The R770 is the same. But, I could be wrong, give me a source for this info if you can.

 

[Haz197]

No, I didn't get them mixed up. The GT200 is NOT 2xG92, just look at the specs, it is a new architecture. The R770 is the same. But, I could be wrong, give me a source for this info if you can.

check fud link in last post (not that I trust fud but it was top of the list in google and its old verified news)

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7578.html

http://forums.slizone.com/index.php?showtopic=21404

http://news.softpedia.com/news/ATI-039-s-R700-to-support-DirectX-10-1-55321.shtml

http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/f22/ati-r700-details-leak-out-going-multicore-55nm-33380/

try those for now, but there are lots more, just use google

 

[Urbklr]

check fud link in last post (not that I trust fud but it was top of the list in google and its old verified news)

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7578.html

http://forums.slizone.com/index.php?showtopic=21404

http://news.softpedia.com/news/ATI-039-s-R700-to-support-DirectX-10-1-55321.shtml

http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/f22/ati-r700-details-leak-out-going-multicore-55nm-33380/

try those for now, but there are lots more, just use google

Your sources are all dated, and were rumors. Now that the cards are out, we know that info is not true. A lot of the info in those links is plain out wrong anyway.

 

[v-zero]

The GTX 280 and 4870/4850 cores are not multi-die... They are both single-die redesigns of the G80 and r600 respectively.