will a rtx 3060 ti be enough for a 400w 80+ bronze psu?

[laggyuploads]

My current specs are:
i5-10400
RTX 2060
512gb wd ssd
16gb ram clocked at 2666MHz but their max capacity is 3200 but the cpu doesnt allow it. (2x8)
(I would also like to know why this is)

Cooling:
I have one exhaust fan at the rear and 2 in take fans at the front
and i have a standard stock cooler for cpu cooling.

(the rtx 2060 in my system rn is a founders edition btw)

 

[GerKNG]

As long as it's not a strix oc with maxed out powerlimits.. it should be fine.
But i'd still recommend to buy a decent PSU. ( Do not fall for these awful new gigabyte ones that are 850w 80+ gold for 90 bucks)

 

[Space Lynx]

My current specs are:
i5-10400
RTX 2060
512gb wd ssd
16gb ram clocked at 2666MHz but their max capacity is 3200 but the cpu doesnt allow it. (2x8)
(I would also like to know why this is)

Cooling:
I have one exhaust fan at the rear and 2 in take fans at the front
and i have a standard stock cooler for cpu cooling.

(the rtx 2060 in my system rn is a founders edition btw)

you might be ok, but you are cutting it close. since it is 80 plus bronze i'd say you are probably ok...

As long as it's not a strix oc with maxed out powerlimits.. it should be fine.
But i'd still recommend to buy a decent PSU. ( Do not fall for these awful new gigabyte ones that are 850w 80+ gold for 90 bucks)

yep... if possibly try to find a new PSU within your budget. just sort through them on newegg or amazon.

 

[Caring1]

My current specs are:
i5-10400
RTX 2060
512gb wd ssd
16gb ram clocked at 2666MHz but their max capacity is 3200 but the cpu doesnt allow it. (2x8)
(I would also like to know why this is)

Your PSU should be ok if you don't overclock.
The Ram is a limitation of the CPU and Motherboard.

 

[Space Lynx]

jayz2cents posted this yesterday. good timing.

 

[elghinnarisa]

You would be cutting it quite close, TPU says the 10400f topped out at 160w stress test
3060 Ti at ~200w

So just those two together at full blast is 360w, not accounting for the rest and thats coming pretty close to the 400w limit.

Of course a 10400 wont reach 160w under normal usage scenarios, but the possibility that it can exists.

 

[Vya Domus]

I'd change the PSU for something that gives you at least 100W more on the 12V rail.

 

[laggyuploads]

you might be ok, but you are cutting it close. since it is 80 plus bronze i'd say you are probably ok...



yep... if possibly try to find a new PSU within your budget. just sort through them on newegg or amazon.

yeah i just checked and i realized that its a 80+ gold not bronze sorry for that

You would be cutting it quite close, TPU says the 10400f topped out at 160w stress test
3060 Ti at ~200w

So just those two together at full blast is 360w, not accounting for the rest and thats coming pretty close to the 400w limit.

Of course a 10400 wont reach 160w under normal usage scenarios, but the possibility that it can exists.

alright thank you for the help, same thing with everyone else who replied

 

[jboydgolfer]

400W is kind of shit when it comes to a gaming PC.
id suggest to anyone who is building a gaming pc, or a PC that will be used for gaming at any point to go with a minimum of 650W

the issue is, when you go low ball on the PSU, you end up where you are now, having to upgrade the PSU , along with other parts, & in the end, you'll spend more than if you had bought a proper PSU for a gaming PC at the start. now there might be mitigating factors for why you have a 400W PSU, & im not saying its wrong to have it, im just explaining why id recommend what id recommend to a new builder.

i dont know where you live, but if youre in the US, Bestbuy has the best PSU prices currently.

 

[Deleted member 202104]

You would be cutting it quite close, TPU says the 10400f topped out at 160w stress test
3060 Ti at ~200w

So just those two together at full blast is 360w, not accounting for the rest and thats coming pretty close to the 400w limit.

Of course a 10400 wont reach 160w under normal usage scenarios, but the possibility that it can exists.

Just a minor correction. That 169w you quote is total system power with the CPU overclocked (BCLK) and power limits removed. Running stock, it's 30w less.

I also completely agree with the others that 650w is a good place to be in a gaming machine.

16gb ram clocked at 2666MHz but their max capacity is 3200 but the cpu doesnt allow it. (2x8)
(I would also like to know why this is)

You probably don't have a Z490 motherboard, so your speed is limited to 2666MHz. (yay intel)

 

[dirtyferret]

jayz2cents posted this yesterday. good timing.

Probably the last guy on youtube I would ever listen to about power supplies. If you must go to youtube for PSU info at least go to Aris's channel

 

[Frick]

More importantly, is it a modern PSU? Exactly what model is it? The majority of budget PSUs are not well suited at all for modern loads, ie gaming GPUs.

 

[dirtyferret]

More importantly, is it a modern PSU? Exactly what model is it? The majority of budget PSUs are not well suited at all for modern loads, ie gaming GPUs.

Stop asking intelligent questions frick, they don't belong in this thread

 

[evernessince]

My current specs are:
i5-10400
RTX 2060
512gb wd ssd
16gb ram clocked at 2666MHz but their max capacity is 3200 but the cpu doesnt allow it. (2x8)
(I would also like to know why this is)

Cooling:
I have one exhaust fan at the rear and 2 in take fans at the front
and i have a standard stock cooler for cpu cooling.

(the rtx 2060 in my system rn is a founders edition btw)

A 400w PSU isn't going to cut it. Nvidia officially recommends a 600w PSU and I'd say to not go lower than a 500w quality unit.

We don't know the model of your PSU either, which is very important. A good PSU is cheap compared to the price of your other components, you should really be allocating more money to the most important part of your PC.

 

[laggyuploads]

Just a minor correction. That 169w you quote is total system power with the CPU overclocked (BCLK) and power limits removed. Running stock, it's 30w less.

I also completely agree with the others that 650w is a good place to be in a gaming machine.



You probably don't have a Z490 motherboard, so your speed is limited to 2666MHz. (yay intel)

thats so lame of intel

A 400w PSU isn't going to cut it. Nvidia officially recommends a 600w PSU and I'd say to not go lower than a 500w quality unit.

We don't know the model of your PSU either, which is very important. A good PSU is cheap compared to the price of your other components, you should really be allocating more money to the most important part of your PC.

the psu is from fsp and the model is FSP AURUM 400W, you could find it on fsp's website

More importantly, is it a modern PSU? Exactly what model is it? The majority of budget PSUs are not well suited at all for modern loads, ie gaming GPUs.

FSP AURUM 400W https://www.fsplifestyle.com/PROP162000517/

 

[Mussels]

FSP used to be a high quality brand, havent heard of them in some time

2x18A 12V rails indicates it may have issues, if the CPU and GPU try to use the same rail it will trigger the OCP and hard shutdown the PC

 

[dirtyferret]

FSP used to be a high quality brand, havent heard of them in some time

2x18A 12V rails indicates it may have issues, if the CPU and GPU try to use the same rail it will trigger the OCP and hard shutdown the PC

They are still around and supply brands like be quiet with thier units among other brands; more than capable of building quality units or mediocre ones. The 12v is single with a split in that unit, the cpu and gpu would be on separate spilts.

 

[Mussels]

They are still around and supply brands like be quiet with thier units among other brands; more than capable of building quality units or mediocre ones. The 12v is single with a split in that unit, the cpu and gpu would be on separate spilts.

With two rails, it's gotta balance between 24 pin, 8 pin CPU, random peripherals, and then the GPU. If that GPU needs two PCI-E cables it's a tossup what ends up where.

WIth a system thats on the edge wattage wise, having split rails (even if its just an OCP fake split and not true seperate rails) just makes it even more likely to shut down.

 

[Vya Domus]

2x18A 12V rails indicates it may have issues, if the CPU and GPU try to use the same rail it will trigger the OCP and hard shutdown the PC

OCP works per output wire not per rail. You could trigger OCP even if the PSU is single rail but you use a single PCIe cable to power a hugely power hungry GPU.

 

[Frick]

thats so lame of intel


the psu is from fsp and the model is FSP AURUM 400W, you could find it on fsp's website


FSP AURUM 400W https://www.fsplifestyle.com/PROP162000517/

Yeah no good. Ancient design, will not hold up well with even your current system.

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I wish manufacturers were more forthcoming about the design, any group regulated PSU (unless they use an updated version of it) just isn't suited at all for any modern gaming system.

 

[ShurikN]

Probably the last guy on youtube I would ever listen to about power supplies. anything PC

There, fixed it for you.

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

If your bronze PSU powers your RTX 2060 fine, then it will do fine aswell with RTX 3060Ti, i think its about 10-20 watts more which is nothing

 

[dirtyferret]

With two rails, it's gotta balance between 24 pin, 8 pin CPU, random peripherals, and then the GPU. If that GPU needs two PCI-E cables it's a tossup what ends up where.

WIth a system thats on the edge wattage wise, having split rails (even if its just an OCP fake split and not true seperate rails) just makes it even more likely to shut down.

There's a lot there; a 400w PSU should not have two PCI-E cables to begin with. The whole split rail vs single rail may cause a shut down early or it may not. Really depends on how sensitive FSP set the OCP. The PSU may not have a split at all as it wouldn't be the first oem to advertise a split when there wasn't one (hello seasonic).

I wish manufacturers were more forthcoming about the design, any group regulated PSU (unless they use an updated version of it) just isn't suited at all for any modern gaming system.

And take away fan boys ability to state "you need a 650w PSU minimum!" without the slightest ability to tell you under what conditions that PSU can deliver 650w? I think not.

 

[elghinnarisa]

Just a minor correction. That 169w you quote is total system power with the CPU overclocked (BCLK) and power limits removed. Running stock, it's 30w less.

169w for max turbo and 103 BCLK, I said 160w which is just max turbo. But yes, that is correct. Point was mostly that the hardware has the capability to draw a pretty significant amount of power and its worth having that in mind since depending on exact setup, usage and future additions, its pretty close to that 400w. A bit too close for my taste.

 

[laggyuploads]

If your bronze PSU powers your RTX 2060 fine, then it will do fine aswell with RTX 3060Ti, i think its about 10-20 watts more which is nothing

yeah in the thread title i made a mistake, i thought it was bronze but its actually gold