windows 10 worth the upgrade?

[FordGT90Concept]

The only Metro app I've used is Edge when IE11 doesn't work on a website. I also tested the Xbox app. Neither get regular use.

 

[Pill Monster]

Yeah I said Metro but I really meant windows apps....highly annoying.
It wouldn't be so bad if the UAC prompt didn't appear every 2mins while loged in as admin on the only local account. It just makes u wanna turn it off (well, me), but then win apps don't run.

MS cover it at about 4min 20 on this msdn vid, 8.1, but applies to 10 as well...


If u want, go to:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System

Set EnableLUA 0 and enjoy.

 

[Jetster]

I just tested Windows image back up in windows 10. They put the system imaging back into Windows after taking it out in Windows 8. Last month after I did a clean install I made an Image.
Its a little hidden. After creating an image. To restore:
Settings/update and security/recovery/restart now/advance/use image

It literally took 10 minutes to restore my system

To make an Image just use Backup and restore in the control panel it says (Windows 7)

 

[krammuel]

it would be ... once the guinea pig will say : ok, on a case to case basis...

for me its a : NO, on the main rig for the moment , since the auto update from M$ now decide which video driver is the best and install it for me ... and no the latest nvidia driver is not the best, security update and patch yes, but NO M$ you don't have the right to choose which driver i have to install, I do that myself quite correctly since my 1st PC.

short version,
for my laptop for casual mobile gaming and day to day task (browsing, movie playback, etc ): worth it.
for my desktop: not worth it (unless they stop controlling the drivers updates, or give the mean to disable it without a script for user who know what they do. one Apple is enough.)

Completely agree with you on that point. M$ (I like the "dollar sign" for that, since that is what they are all about) needs to address that right away. I too can't stand not knowing what is going on with "MY" pc.

 

[Drone]

People who don't need Edge, Store, and all those bloated W10 apps can get Windows 10 Enterprise ltsb. Ltsb is a "clean" Windows 10 edition plus you have all Enterprise functionality. Because it's stripped from all that bloatware it installs and boots faster than Pro version. Unfortunately ltsb is more expensive

 

[Jetster]

Completely agree with you on that point. M$ (I like the "dollar sign" for that, since that is what they are all about) needs to address that right away. I too can't stand not knowing what is going on with "MY" pc.

The pro version you can defer the updates

 

[Aquinus]

People who don't need Edge, Store, and all those bloated W10 apps can get Windows 10 Enterprise ltsb. Ltsb is a "clean" Windows 10 edition plus you have all Enterprise functionality. Because it's stripped from all that bloatware it installs and boots faster than Pro version. Unfortunately ltsb is more expensive

You can remove all of these things using PowerShell. This is touched upon in the "Windows 10 Tweaks" thread.

PS C:\Users\***> Get-AppXPackage *store*


Name              : Microsoft.WindowsStore
Publisher         : CN=Microsoft Corporation, O=Microsoft Corporation, L=Redmond, S=Washington, C=US
Architecture      : X64
ResourceId        :
Version           : 2015.8.25.0
PackageFullName   : Microsoft.WindowsStore_2015.8.25.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
InstallLocation   : C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.WindowsStore_2015.8.25.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
IsFramework       : False
PackageFamilyName : Microsoft.WindowsStore_8wekyb3d8bbwe
PublisherId       : 8wekyb3d8bbwe
IsResourcePackage : False
IsBundle          : False
IsDevelopmentMode : False
Dependencies      : {Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00_14.0.22929.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe,
                    Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.1.0_1.0.22929.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe}



PS C:\Users\***> Remove-AppxPackage Microsoft.WindowsStore_2015.8.25.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe

 

[Drone]

Cumulative update for W10: September 8, 2015


This is the biggest update W10 ever had. Lol look at the file list.
This is pretty good for those who installed Windows 10 today. Just one update that has everything, no need to install previous updates.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

was gonna do a clean Win 10 install on my laptop today just to see how it was. However, I read that AMDs drivers for laptop APUs are still broken as hell. Either there are no graphic drivers for APUs or Hardware Acceleration just straight up doesnt work. Didnt bother installing in the end.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

So I went upstairs to get "0xF00D" and I came back down maybe 5 minutes later to my computer restarting. Windows 10 apparently took it upon itself to install updates without notifying me. This is the second time Windows 10 has installed updates without notification. The last time was GPU drivers and the screen was flickering while I was using it.

I just changed the setting to "Notify to restart" instead of "Automatic" so hopefully that stupid nonsense never happens again. Seriously, Microsoft!?!

 

[rtwjunkie]

So I went upstairs to get "0xF00D" and I came back down maybe 5 minutes later to my computer restarting. Windows 10 apparently took it upon itself to install updates without notifying me. This is the second time Windows 10 has installed updates without notification. The last time was GPU drivers and the screen was flickering while I was using it.

I just changed the setting to "Notify to restart" instead of "Automatic" so hopefully that stupid nonsense never happens again. Seriously, Microsoft!?!

I actually thought I had that beat and it behaved itself on Patch Tuesday. It even offered to wait until 3:30am to apply the updates. Yet yesterday, there was a lone update, and that cause me no little amount of grief on startup. It kept locking up. Had to do 4 hard restarts to actually get to a desktop that worked.

According to the event log, I interrupted Windows Update. Who in their right effin mind would think scheduling an update while starting up is a good idea?!!

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I noticed a quirk with Windows 10 on changing graphics cards too: on the first boot after graphics card change, Windows 10 partially boots but then restarts the computer. On the second attempt, it makes it to the desktop. I noticed this going from HD 5870 to R9 290X and again going from R9 290X to 9800 GT. It seems to no matter what cards are used, it does it.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I noticed a quirk with Windows 10 on changing graphics cards too: on the first boot after graphics card change, Windows 10 partially boots but then restarts the computer. On the second attempt, it makes it to the desktop. I noticed this going from HD 5870 to R9 290X and again going from R9 290X to 9800 GT. It seems to not matter what cards are used, it does it.

Quirk or deficiency, I'm undecided. I know there are too many instances of trying unsuccessfully to get to the desktop on all new parts in a balanced system with updated drivers that Lord Microsoft approves of, because they haven't been forcefully replaced for it to be anything but "not completely ready."

Thanks for the GPU info!

 

[Drone]

Lots of things are left unpolished. Many people reported problems with audiodg.exe eating lots of CPU in Windows 10. A couple of days later MS released patch and now audiodg.exe works fine. It seems they rushed it. They wanted to get rid of Windows 8.1 as fast as they can so they released Windows 10.

I also noticed that almost all manufactures release drivers for Windows 10 like mad. Almost every day (exaggeration) there's a new driver for Intel graphics, Realtek audio and same for wifi / ethernet drivers. And now MS says there's gonna be a giant update for Windows 10 in November. Now there's a logical question: why didn't they want to release Windows 10 in November in the first place? When everything is polished and ready.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Because they set the date about six months ago and they were sticking to it. Microsoft has adopted the same release-unfinished-software-and-patch-until-it-works most publishers have these days.

 

[Aquinus]

I noticed a quirk with Windows 10 on changing graphics cards too: on the first boot after graphics card change, Windows 10 partially boots but then restarts the computer. On the second attempt, it makes it to the desktop. I noticed this going from HD 5870 to R9 290X and again going from R9 290X to 9800 GT. It seems to no matter what cards are used, it does it.

Have you tried doing it from the 5870 to the 9800 GT? The difference I see is that the R9 290X probably has a UEFI video bios whereas the others don't. I take it that the event viewer wasn't enlightening?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

It is a "UEFI Ready" card, yes, by my motherboard has zero support for UEFI so it shouldn't even see that as an option.

Log Name:      System
Source:        Microsoft-Windows-UserPnp
Date:          9/11/2015 6:22:30 AM
Event ID:      20001
Task Category: (7005)
Level:         Information
Keywords:      
User:          SYSTEM
Computer:      BY-2009
Description:
Driver Management concluded the process to install driver display.inf_amd64_54c15e45dc857c30\display.inf for Device Instance ID PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0605&SUBSYS_C9733842&REV_A2\4&D57AD25&0&0018 with the following status: 0x0.

Log Name:      System
Source:        Microsoft-Windows-UserPnp
Date:          9/11/2015 6:22:30 AM
Event ID:      20003
Task Category: (7005)
Level:         Information
Keywords:      
User:          SYSTEM
Computer:      BY-2009
Description:
Driver Management has concluded the process to add Service BasicDisplay for Device Instance ID PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0605&SUBSYS_C9733842&REV_A2\4&D57AD25&0&0018 with the following status: 0.

Basically just saying it installed the generic driver. The event entry immediately after these indicate it rebooted.