WINDOWS 12

[Atomic77]

I know windows 10 just came out but it makes sense since they went from 8.1 to 10 that Windows 12 would be right around the corner give or take a year or 2. Does anyone here have any idea what it will be like and or what you would like to see in it if and when it starts being made.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Microsoft has said Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows (not unlike Mac OS X).

 

[natr0n]

Microsoft has said Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows (not unlike Mac OS X).

"Instead of big releases, there will be regular improvements and updates."

^Basically this ^

 

[m0nt3]

That is my understanding as well. like a rolling release.

 

[Sasqui]

Eventually there will be a windows 10.101010101010101XP7. It will be in the year 2099 when they realize how badly the screwed up the interface and revert back to features in XP, where for one, you can search for a file by name and contents of the file without having to open up the control panel, click Folder Options, click Search tab, click "Always search file names and contents (this might take several minutes)".

Do I sound bitter?

 

[rtwjunkie]

What @FordGT90Concept, @natr0n and m0nt3 said. Windows 10 is the last ever. It will roll out updates to itself and make miniversions.

@Sasqui get Stardock's Start 10 until then: http://www.stardock.com/products/start10/
It's a mere $4.99 to give you the advantages both of 10 and the Operating System you want.

 

[P4-630]

I'm still waiting for windows 8.2

We might get "DOORS" finally in the future

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

The inside reason that 9 wasn't a viable operating system number is that legacy code is short sighted. Look back at some of the legacy code, and it references "Windows 9" instead of "Windows 95" and the like.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2690724/why-windows-10-isnt-named-9-windows-95-legacy-code.html


There's no human reason it isn't Windows 9. It isn't because seven ate nine (god that joke hurts to say). It isn't because MS wanted to "put distance" between the OS numbers. It isn't even that MS wanted to compete with Apple.

Officially 10 is the end for MS. Unofficially, I think that's short sighted idiocy that will be undone in the next few years. Users aren't going to warm up to the constant nagging for paid upgrades, and some of the changes MS has instituted aren't exactly designed with user friendliness in mind. I think 10 will be a thing for the next few years (3), before MS decides that their model isn't working and goes back to the traditional model (if consumers haven't given them the finger by then). Windows 11, or whatever it's eventually called, will utilize DX versions to force upgrade (it seems as though that's always the big stick with MS). The other features will be so minor as to be inconsequential, but will steal more power away from the user.


I'm basing all of this off the truly terrible office 365. It's supposed to be an upgrade, yet it runs poorer and experiences more errors in practice than anything I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with. People seeing the same thing with their OS won't be so quick to dismiss it.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

It isn't because MS wanted to "put distance" between the OS numbers.

Then why did they change the NT version from 6.3 in Windows 8.1 to 10 in Windows 10? Initially, I think that was the case but they later (I think it coincided with Ballmer leaving) decided to do exactly that--hence the massive jump in version number.


I think we will see a Windows 10.1 and probably a Windows 10.2 but I can't see Microsoft giving away free upgrades forever. Mac OS X works for Apple because the upgrades are paid. If Microsoft moves to that model, it will stymie technical progress which is exactly what Microsoft doesn't want. I don't know when and I don't know why but I, too, agree that there will be something after Windows 10.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Then why did they change the NT version from 6.3 in Windows 8.1 to 10 in Windows 10?

I'm a kind of conspiracy guy. Next logical step would have been 6.4 and 6+4=10. See how I got that?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

It actually was 6.4 up until they suddenly changed it to 10 (I forget the build number).

 

[qubit]

Eventually there will be a windows 10.101010101010101XP7. It will be in the year 2099 when they realize how badly the screwed up the interface and revert back to features in XP, where for one, you can search for a file by name and contents of the file without having to open up the control panel, click Folder Options, click Search tab, click "Always search file names and contents (this might take several minutes)".

Do I sound bitter?

Yes, deliciously so.

I'm a kind of conspiracy guy. Next logical step would have been 6.4 and 6+4=10. See how I got that?

Numerology - a conspiracy theorists number 1 tool. Can't go wrong with that!

 

[alucasa]

Me is waiting for Windows 10xp Billgates signature edition, digitally signed by Bill Gates himself.

 

[AsRock]

I am waiting on a major update that pops up a message telling you that your OS is going to expire, shit may not ever happen but you never know.

 

[dorsetknob]

I'm a kind of conspiracy guy. Next logical step would have been 6.4 and 6+4=10. See how I got that?

Hass been teaching you maths ??

 

[dorsetknob]

I am waiting on a major update that pops up a message telling you that your OS is going to expire, shit may not ever happen but you never know.

You forgot to mention that it will probably ask for your credit card Details so you can renew your copy of Windows as a Service Subscription

Then again with all the Data Slurping Microsuck probably already got them

 

[Athlonite]

What @FordGT90Concept, @natr0n and m0nt3 said. Windows 10 is the last ever. It will roll out updates to itself and make miniversions.

@Sasqui get Stardock's Start 10 until then: http://www.stardock.com/products/start10/
It's a mere $4.99 to give you the advantages both of 10 and the Operating System you want.

Startisback for windows 10 is $2.99 and just as good start 10 from stardock

 

[rtwjunkie]

I think peoole should use whatever they like, and that's some good info there!

Start 10 does alot more than just put the start menu back in, for those that are curious.

 

[AsRock]

You forgot to mention that it will probably ask for your credit card Details so you can renew your copy of Windows as a Service Subscription

Then again with all the Data Slurping Microsuck probably already got them

Either that or a BIG ASS message popping up from the toolbar saying you should upgrade to the newer windows 10 as 110 million have already.

Yes a message pops up now saying just that as is if you don't remove the KB file, funny part i think is 110 million like that's not many people so i am thinking many more millions did not upgrade many more than 110 mill that's for sure..

 

[rtwjunkie]

I removed the WX kb update. Ill update my main rig when im ready, and don't need MS to prompt me.

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

Then why did they change the NT version from 6.3 in Windows 8.1 to 10 in Windows 10? Initially, I think that was the case but they later (I think it coincided with Ballmer leaving) decided to do exactly that--hence the massive jump in version number.


I think we will see a Windows 10.1 and probably a Windows 10.2 but I can't see Microsoft giving away free upgrades forever. Mac OS X works for Apple because the upgrades are paid. If Microsoft moves to that model, it will stymie technical progress which is exactly what Microsoft doesn't want. I don't know when and I don't know why but I, too, agree that there will be something after Windows 10.

I can't deny that it is a possibility. At the same time, let me propose an alternative.

Engineer A: We've got to choose something other than 9 as our version number because we've got spaghetti code reaching so far back that it was designed for Windows 95.
Engineer B: Why not just rewrite the code, and implement all the things we've learned in the last two decades?
Engineer A looks at Engineer B, and both laugh.
Engineer B: Alright, We'll go with 10.
Engineer A: But what about all the other stuff? I mean, having fundamental portions of our code referring to completely different revisions is just confusing.
Engineer B: Let's just standardize everything to 10, so there's no questions.
Engineer A: Sounds good. What about all those other revisions numbers?
Engineer B: We'll have a bigger gap in numbering, so legacy code is easier to see and obsolete. This is supposed to be a perpetual OS, right.
Engineer A: Sigh... I guess.


It's admittedly boiling a massively complex numbering scheme down to a simple conversation, but I'm going Occam's Razor here. The less someone has to remember, the better. The more overlap, the less memory required. I see this as a PR bonus (putting distance between Windows 8/8.1), but not a main motivator. Ballmer isn't going to be fondly remembered, but having enough spite to drive a complex project to switch numbering schemes out of spite seems...excessive.

 

[Atomic77]

Things are always complicated enough said.