Windows 7 Club

[suraswami]

Minimum hardware requirements for Windows 7
Architecture 32-bit/64-bit
Processor speed 1 GHz processor
Memory (RAM) 1 GB of RAM/2 GB of RAM
Graphics card Support for DirectX 9 graphics device with 128MB of graphics memory (for Windows Aero)
HDD free space 16 GB of available disk space 20 GB of available disk space
Optical drive DVD drive (only to install from DVD/CD Media)

#1 - if you got a 4850 plugged in, no it wont save energy

#2 - plug the one from the 4850 into the monitor

#3 Physics processing at the moment is still what i would call in its early stages, despite being around for a long time no graphics manufacturer made any REAL move to support it until just recently. - there are still only a handful of games that actually make full use of Proper physics at the moment so its not really important unless you got money to throw away

#4 Hybred SLi will never be as effective as a full on SLi or Crossfire rig as embedded graphics processors only have so much power to give & its not enough.

a 285 will run circles around your 4850

Thanks for the detailed reply.

So I heard one of the good features of Hybrid CF or SLI with onboard is saving energy like shutting off the discrete graphics card, is this not true?

 

[FreedomEclipse]

It does, but dont forget the dedicated graphics card will eat up a lot more power then then the embeded one. it will save power but not enough to do much good IMHO. most graphic cards to day come with built in power management that will downclock the clock the card anyway. so its a bit of a moot point.

it would make more sense if the Hybred graphics was used in a laptop, since they run on batteries its a lot more important.

 

[suraswami]

It does, but dont forget the dedicated graphics card will eat up a lot more power then then the embeded one. it will save power but not enough to do much good IMHO. most graphic cards to day come with built in power management that will downclock the clock the card anyway. so its a bit of a moot point.

it would make more sense if the Hybred graphics was used in a laptop, since they run on batteries its a lot more important.

My GamePC sucks about 180w idle with all the Hdds in standby. The video card does throttle down, and the CPU's C'n'Q is enabled and is working around 900Mhz. So defenitely something is eating up power. Because of this the PSU fan is working slightly at a higher speed, so sometimes watching a movie is annoying too.

any saving of energy is good for my pocket.

 

[kuroikenshi]

just a curve ball question, what is the weakest system you have had win 7 running on with no serious problems, we all know it loves fast hardware, but what about older slower hardware..

I installed windows 7 on an old Compaq Pentium 3 laptop and although the install was slow... once it finished booting up, it was tolerable! Great for a little kids laptop! That was RC1 by the way.

 

[suraswami]

I installed windows 7 on an old Compaq Pentium 3 laptop and although the install was slow... once it finished booting up, it was tolerable! Great for a little kids laptop! That was RC1 by the way.

how much memory does it have?

 

[kuroikenshi]

how much memory does it have?

512 PC-133

 

[FreedomEclipse]

My GamePC sucks about 180w idle with all the Hdds in standby. The video card does throttle down, and the CPU's C'n'Q is enabled and is working around 900Mhz. So defenitely something is eating up power. Because of this the PSU fan is working slightly at a higher speed, so sometimes watching a movie is annoying too.

any saving of energy is good for my pocket.

how do you know it sucks up 180watts?? I would think its more then that, PSU calculators give you a rough figure of what your using but its not 100% accurate.

In any case (since i dont have to pay for electricity) Ive disabled most of the energy saving functions on my system because its overclocked. my graphics however still clock down when idle.

I installed windows 7 on an old Compaq Pentium 3 laptop and although the install was slow... once it finished booting up, it was tolerable! Great for a little kids laptop! That was RC1 by the way.

around the time RC 2 7100 was released I heard there was a competition to find out what was the lowest spec machine someone could install Win7 on.

last i heard someone managed to get it on a Pentium1 200Mhz something like 40mb (or 60/80mb) EDO ram.

Win7 took 3-4days to install & took upto 15 or more mins to boot up

 

[suraswami]

how do you know it sucks up 180watts?? I would think its more then that, PSU calculators give you a rough figure of what your using but its not 100% accurate.

I have connected my machine to APC UPS and its software reports me whatever the watt is and have confirmed the same with Kill-A-Watt device. Kill-A-Watt device is a must for any power conscious PC builders, I do not build any PC without using this meter and logging it.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

I have connected my machine to APC UPS and its software reports me whatever the watt is and have confirmed the same with Kill-A-Watt device. Kill-A-Watt device is a must for any power conscious PC builders, I do not build any PC without using this meter and logging it.

fair play! id like to have both a UPS system & a power meter thing but both of the 2 items here can be fairly expensive. with my pc the way it is - id have to invest a lot of money into a UPS that can keep running more then 5-10mins afer a power outage.

 

[Delta6326]

Im downloading Win 7 Ultimate Retail from TechNet will be my main Os once i get all of my stuff off my comp so i can put w7 on it. im at 11% 348mb sadly it going at the speed of 25Kb/s says it will take about 30 hours i want to cry

 

[Mussels]

7 will run fine on just about anything, as long as it has a decent amount of ram. (1GB+ for smooth non gaming use)

 

[Melvis]

7 will run fine on just about anything, as long as it has a decent amount of ram. (1GB+ for smooth non gaming use)

yep i agree with you there, seems to run very smooth and very fast on my GF's rig at the moment, about to install the latest Nvidia Drivers to see if that will fix the problem in games.

You could get away with 1GB of ram used for Windows 7 but 1.5 to 2gb would be better for every day use. Ultimate Version uses just over 500MB of ram at idle/fresh install, but once you have a firewall and a few tabs open on a browser it can easily hit over 700mb. Still thats not bad

Edit: I found that Hamachi 1.0.1.5 works with Windows 7 very well

 

[t77snapshot]

I'm having trouble getting my Logitec (usb) headphones to work. I have build 7100 and I've tried setting the default speakers to headphones and installing the recommended drivers, but nothing works. I've been having issues with my sound card as well, could that be a related problem?

any help would be greatly appreciated

 

[Mussels]

I'm having trouble getting my Logitec (usb) headphones to work. I have build 7100 and I've tried setting the default speakers to headphones and installing the recommended drivers, but nothing works. I've been having issues with my sound card as well, could that be a related problem?

any help would be greatly appreciated

post a screenshot of your sound section of the windows control panel.

 

[t77snapshot]

post a screenshot of your sound section of the windows control panel.

Never mind I just got it working I swear I tried setting the headphones to default and they weren't responding, but now they are I feel dumb...sorry for wasting your time

 

[exodusprime1337]

oooo i'm using win7 x64 on both my desktop and new g71 asus laptop, both primary and only os used. I also upgraded my g/f to x64 win 7 on an amd 9950be 4gigs ddr2 corsair 1066, and 4870 512. all three of the computers are working beautifully.

 

[Mussels]

i just cant wait for the first generation of GPGPU programs

 

[EastCoasthandle]

If you are experiencing problems playing Wow using windows 7 try this to see if it improves gameplay.

1. From a command prompt (usually in All Programs -> Accessories -> Command Prompt) run “regedit”
2. Browse to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces
3. Browse the items under interfaces until you find one that has an IPAddress entry matching the network interface you want to affect
4. Right-click on the interface and select New > DWORD (32-bit) Value, name it “TcpAckFrequency”
5. Right-click the new TcpAckFrequency value and select Modify, enter “1″ (Hexadecimal radio button should be selected)
6. Right-click on the interface and select New > DWORD (32-bit) Value, name it “TCPNoDelay” (note that TCP is all uppercase this time – that’s intentional)
7. Right-click the new TCPNoDelay value and select Modify, enter “1″ (Hexadecimal radio button should be selected)
8. Verify that both TcpAckFrequency and TCPNoDelay now show up in the adapter’s property list with types REG_DWORD and values 0×00000001
9. Exit regedit and reboot (reboot is necessary for the changes to take effect!)
10. Play a game and enjoy your new low ping

If it doesn't work you can always remove it and reboot.

 

[Mussels]

Interesting trick.

 

[eidairaman1]

bah, no AGP Legacy Drivers for Win 7 Yet

 

[suraswami]

Ok another question, I installed Win 7 Ultimate 64bit and installed all the softwares that I use. All of them are only 32bit. So is it still good 64bit or just use 32bit? I only have 4GB now may be I have to buy more ram if needed, so trying to justify the cost and 64bit.

can someone guide me please?

 

[FreedomEclipse]

4GB is fine for Win7 64bit just check everyone elses specs - most of us have 4Gb, with maybe a handfull that have 8Gb.

Most 32bit software will work on 64bit since 64bit is backwards compatible. its really just down the the software itself that defines if it works but if something works on Vista then in theory it should work on Win7. theres no garantee however so, Id just google the software & see if its compatible with win7

maybe the software company might of provided some update patchess for win7 or x64. we really cant tell you if something will work or not. so its all a bit hit or miss unless you install the software to see if it works yourself.

 

[Duxx]

Just installed Windows 7 Professional as main OS. Love it so far (of course since I loved it in RC) but thought I'd join the club! Took awhile to get(msdn-aa) but finally loaded this bad boy up! I'll have to read all the information here when I get home this afternoon.

 

[suraswami]

All my software worked except for the ever troublesome but u gotta love it/hate it software PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 didn't work. Lot of people on other forums says it works, but not for me.

Now I couldn't uninstall PDVD too.

So I am going to reinstall Windows and try this.

 

[Mussels]

why are you using such an outdated version of powerDVD? they've been at version 9 for some time