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Hmm... that doesn't sound right....I changed my fan setting with rabit and I've changed drivers at least 3 times since. Save the BIOS with rabit then edit it ,then flash it with edited BIOS. Also Don't use the ATI winflash util. Make a bootup disk and flash it in dos mode.

"I cant edit in rabbit my current bios, because rabbit is software(driver) dependent -
it's true :( - I'll tested so many times and the result is same."

Try edited with rabit - voltage and mem/core speed and you will see what I mind.
IF you change only FAN speed and voltage - is not a problem at all
but if you change the both of memory, core speed and voltage - it work only with one driver - the driver which you made edit and save with rabbit.

I made flash with DOS 6.22 - bootup floppy disk and atitool ot in

Type - atiflash -f -p 0 (bios name).
I Think that is not my mistake - all is correctly to my flash metod - result too ;)
but rabbit is a software software(driver) dependent tool :(((
 

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Heey Guys..New here

Just a quick question

Is it possible to increase the AA on the X1900XT higher the Default 6x??? in Ati tray tools Or ATITool?

Heard it could be done but how??
 
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Well what i can tell you is that you can use ati tray tools to sort of multiply your antialiasing with temporal aa. It goes like this you have 2aa set then you can multiply it with 2 for 4time efect of aa and so until 6X3=18 which is the highest aa you can achive with atis single card. It only takes the performance of aa that you applied and then it multiplys it with the number 2 or 3 for a desired level of aa. But it automaticly forces vertical sync to turn on so you will be limited to your refresh rate and you have to have prety high frame rate othervise it will turn itself off and also you can only see it in motion and not on screencaptures. And its not perfectly scaling and also it doesnt work in all games. So you will have to test what sort of image quality will you get and where do you get acceptable performance. You can also add adaptive aa in the mix for antialiasing alpha textures like fences and foliage in games like hal life 2 and simmilar. For the future i heard that ati is trying to get its crosffire aa to work with only one card so we might just have something more to toy with around the corner:toast: But at present that is prety much all what you can do with aa on a ati card ;)
 

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alright man...appreciate your replay...I'll have a look and see what could be done


Cheers
 

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X1900XT 256mb BIOS

prompt1 you asked for this bios (X1900XT 256mb BIOS).

It's not from my card. I got it through a link in another forum which pointed in this forum. I searched but cannot find the topic it was posted in.
I think it's from a Sapphire x1900xt 256mb. Don't know for sure so use it at your own risk. I would use it myself but don't have a pci card available and don't have on-board vga.
And besides that I'm doing my finals :shadedshu :shadedshu :shadedshu which means I shouldn't be here :)
If you or anybody have any luck or thoughts on unlocking th gt please share
 

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How much can I clock my X1900XT with the stock cooler ? My highest result is 641/738. On 655/747 there are arteacts. And which is the dead temperature zone.
ps My english is not very well because i'm bulgarian
 

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How much can I clock my X1900XT with the stock cooler ? My highest result is 641/738. On 655/747 there are arteacts. And which is the dead temperature zone.
ps My english is not very well because i'm bulgarian

Temps are the key here.
What are your GPU and Vreg temps?
 

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Temps are the key here.
What are your GPU and Vreg temps?
Without clock in idle: gpu 51, gpu vrm 57 load: gpu 76, gou vrm 80 with automatic speed fan settings.
 
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Without clock in idle: gpu 51, gpu vrm 57 load: gpu 76, gou vrm 80 with automatic speed fan settings.

thats a bit to hot. Did you follow instructions found in the first post of this thread?
 

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thats a bit to hot. Did you follow instructions found in the first post of this thread?
I saw it but My English is not very well and couldn't understand all. And I'm not so sure that I can do that. But I'll try if it really works.
If you can and you don't have work can you retell me the text with simple words :/
 
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I saw it but My English is not very well and couldn't understand all. And I'm not so sure that I can do that. But I'll try if it really works.
If you can and you don't have work can you retell me the text with simple words :/

No problem
-the Heat Sink has drill marks
-you have to lap the heat sink to improve cooling
-X1900 has GPU and vregs that need cooling
-keep fan at 100% (if possible)
-vregs have their own red heatsink, make sure they are secure.

That's basically what I was trying to say through those pictures. If you have any more questions please don't hesitate to ask.
 

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No problem
-the Heat Sink has drill marks
-you have to lap the heat sink to improve cooling
-X1900 has GPU and vregs that need cooling
-keep fan at 100% (if possible)
-vregs have their own red heatsink, make sure they are secure.

That's basically what I was trying to say through those pictures. If you have any more questions please don't hesitate to ask.
Thank you very much for the help EastCoasthandle. I will try this tommorow and I will report what I have done.
EDIT: I managed to do now and I followed all your instructions.The temps in idle are gpu 42 gpu vrm 55. The vrm is still hot but the gpu is 10 degrees cooler :))))). 10x for the help ;]
 
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Thank you very much for the help EastCoasthandle. I will try this tommorow and I will report what I have done.
EDIT: I managed to do now and I followed all your instructions.The temps in idle are gpu 42 gpu vrm 55. The vrm is still hot but the gpu is 10 degrees cooler :))))). 10x for the help ;]

If you are able, place fan near video card. Close to vregs/mosfet area to keep it cool. However, this is better said then done.
 

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If you are able, place fan near video card. Close to vregs/mosfet area to keep it cool. However, this is better said then done.
I got another idea ;]. I will buy Arctic Cooling Accelero X2 for Christmas :)
 
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Well to setup the fan near the card for extra cooling you can also use something like this thing from zalman which im currently using in combination with a 92 mm fan. And you can also rotate it where you want it to blow the air.
 

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Worst graphics cards I ever owned. 2x x1950pro. Fails crossfire. Single card is a great card for the money though. Don't expect to max out your games on it. Better luck with a x1950xtx single card for running max settings. Or x1950xtx crossfire if it works.

EDIT - Crossfire problem was/is CPU. With the 6600 in my system all is working well.

CPUs that didn't work:
-P4ht 550 (3.4)
-P4d 930 (3.0)

Motherboards tested:
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-ASUS P5B Deluxe (p965)
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-Intel D975XBX2 (975x)

If ATI figures out the problem, and fixes it via. driver, it will be a nice suprise for someone running this configuration and having problems with x1950 pro crossfire performance.
 
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Here's my breakdown:

Card: X1900GT (original version)
GPU: @682
VRAM: @855
GPU Volts: 1.45v
VRAM Volts: stock (1.175v)
OC Util: ATI Tray Tools (using driver level overclocking)

Here's my story:

I found the stock cooler on my X1900GT to be utter crap (under load GPU temp was ~83C). Even cranking the fan to 100% did little to cool it. I replaced the stock cooler with a Zalman VF900 and temp drops were in the 35-40C range. Both the Zalman and the GPU had mirror finishes - and I used AS5. Most of my games don't even break 50C in GPU temp. Ramsinks on the RAM chips but who knows if they really help.

Even with a missing quad, with my overclocks, my performance levels are very close to a stock X1900XT. I actually tried CCC once but it was useless for overclocking. I can only guess that it wasn't raising my GPU's voltage. I love the card and the cooler but most of all I love ATI Tray Tools. Thanks Ray!

And Soulja, I also use the excellent Zalman arm - I used to use it on my Socket A rigs to cool my cpu by pointing it a fat copper Thermalright SK-7 with a 120mm fan attached.
 
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EDIT - Crossfire problem was/is CPU related. With the 6600 in my system all is working well.

CPUs that didn't work:
-P4ht 550 (3.4)
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Motherboards tested:
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If ATI figures out the problem, and fixes it via. driver, it will be a nice suprise for someone running this configuration and having problems with x1950 pro crossfire performance.
 

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Hey ...can someone tell me standard 3d Vmem voltages for X1900XT 256 ?
I have a Sapphire one..chips are Samsung BJ11 but standard 2d AND 3d volts are 1.84.
I just can't get them past 790 which sucks because chips are rated 800.
I already manually adjusted volts to 2.053 but no difference:shadedshu
checked with WinClc and traytools to see if voltages were set ..temps no higher then 56 c.
Any advice ???
thx
 

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Two steps forward one step back

Not sure what when wrong here. I have an Abit AW9D-MAX E6600 at 3.2GHz. I bought a Diamond Viper X1900XTX. It ran hot when I got it and so I added a CoolerMaster Aquagate Viva. This pulled temps down to 52degrees C under load. There was no cooling for the memory, so I added some ramsinks. They fell off with the thermal tape, so I used a mixture of 50/50 Arctic Silver Alumina/Arctic Silver Ceramique (suppose to be removable, but feels pretty damn secure.) I also put a 70mm fan in the extra bracket that came with the Viva and put it in a PCI slot below the X1900XTX. So far no problems. Running 6.11 as it performs the best for me.

So...I flashed the Sapphire X1900XTX TOXIC Bios onto my card. A couple reboots and reinstalling the driver and CCC seemed to be fine. Was able to see the higher clock speed in Overdrive. I tried to run 3DMark05, but it only completed one segment before it died. I thought it might be ATI Tray Tools causing a problem when it the data displayed on the screen, but did think much of it. Turned off the PC.

Today I turned the PC on and it would not boot up. It crashed while loading drivers and none of my USB devices (mouse, keyboard) would work on the screen to select normal, safe mode, safe mode with network, blah blah. After 4 failures to come up, I connected my PS/2 keyboard and went into safe mode. I removed the video card from Device Manager rebooted and reflashed the card bios back to Diamond. I reinstalled the 6.11 driver and now I am up and running again.

Not sure what went wrong. I may try again in a few days, but I may also just forget about overclocking the video card. Is there another way to have both a 2D and 3D setting that automatically takes effect when a game starts? The Viva is great at keeping the temps down, but the fans on the radiator get noisy at full speed.

-waja
 
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Are you sure you know what ati tray tools does? It´s a simple tool that lets you overclock your card and then make profiles which automaticly apply for 2d and 3d apps. Go and see the hardware settings where there are many settings for ocing. And if you are not happy with att you can use ati tool which also has auto applying profiles for clocks you just have to setup it by yourself. Why flash your card and risk destroying it, if you can easily oc with software :shadedshu
 

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Are you sure you know what ati tray tools does? It´s a simple tool that lets you overclock your card and then make profiles which automaticly apply for 2d and 3d apps. Go and see the hardware settings where there are many settings for ocing. :shadedshu

Tkx. Much easier than I thought.

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You are welcome. If you would like any more tips on overclocking your video card just ask and i will be glad to answer if i can:toast:
 
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