The PS3 Clubhouse

[n-ster]

I think imana just use my 640GB WD 3.5" HDD (the sata 6gbps version) I already have for the PS3. I believe it should work if I use SATA cables... I'd just have to buy female SATA power to female SATA power, if that exists?

EDEIT: this drive has alignement issues with windows XP, would it have any with the PS3?

 

[BumbleBee]

the people listening to SACD these days are probably audiophiles and they use better players than the PS3.

 

[n-ster]

from what I gather online, the PS3 is a pretty good SACD player

 

[BumbleBee]

crazy talk. the PS3 doesn't support DVD-A or output DSD. SACD is a niche format and audiophiles use really expensive SACD players.

 

[n-ster]

I'm not an audiophile but...

Not every audiophile has that kind of money for people starting to appreciate audio more, I'm sure the PS3's SACD playback is a great tool.

PS3 was capable of converting surround DSD to lossy 1.5 Mbit/s DTS for playback over S/PDIF using the 2.00 system software. The subsequent revision removed the feature

so you could get 5.1 with optical input, apparently that is awesome? xD I didn't find any other SACD players capable of this. obviously you'd be stuck with the 2.00 firmware though, or maybe there have been custom firmwares that enable this.

Also I hear some send the signal to a pre-amp through HDMI and receivers and whatnot

also:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-876629.html
http://www.ps3sacd.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=234&sid=2f44827f4a9971533258f40b83a9fcd8

I'm just throwing stuff I found online at you, now you can tell me if any of this is true

 

[BumbleBee]

Some new DVD players from Oppo Digital, Pioneer, Onkyo, etc. now support HDMI 1.2 or 1.3 and will pass DSD over HDMI as well as LPCM. Be aware that some players, for instance, Onkyo DV-SP504, will not support DSD or LPCM over HDMI without resampling it to 48 kHz. SACD or DVD-A will be played through analog outputs instead.

?

Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray player supports SACD and DVD-Audio.

DVD-Audio - The BDP-83 plays DVD-Audio and supports both stereo and multi-channel high resolution audio programs. Users can select whether to play the DVD-Audio or the DVD-Video portion of the disc.

SACD - The BDP-83 plays Super Audio CD (SACD) and supports both stereo and multi-channel high resolution audio programs. Users can select whether to output the DSD (Direct Stream Digital) signal in its native format or convert it into PCM.

 

[kid41212003]

You avatar gives me nightmare!

 

[BumbleBee]

2 strips of latinum if you go away

 

[n-ster]

?

Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray player supports SACD and DVD-Audio.

okok, but is the ps3 an acceptable SACD player? People seem to say the PS3 is not only acceptable, but good. Sure it isn't "great" but good seems good to me

 

[BumbleBee]

will it play yes, is it acceptable no. do you really think people who collect vinyl records, SACD, arcade cabinets or cartridges really care about saving space with all in one devices? long live the clutter I say!

 

[n-ster]

will it play yes, is it acceptable no. do you really think people who collect vinyl records, SACD, arcade cabinets or cartridges really care about saving space with all in one devices? long live the clutter I say!

Good point, you've convinced me Most SACD owners are audiophiles is what it really comes down to

 

[kurosagi01]

picked up Transformers War for Cybertron and Vanquish just because it was for 2 for £20 over here. Also picked up Bioshock 2 for £5 lol.
Just started a bit of both but i am going complete Vanquish 1st as its short and i want play Cybertron with my brother via co-op campaign.
Bioshock 2 can go last.

 

[Jaffakeik]

picked up Transformers War for Cybertron and Vanquish just because it was for 2 for £20 over here. Also picked up Bioshock 2 for £5 lol.
Just started a bit of both but i am going complete Vanquish 1st as its short and i want play Cybertron with my brother via co-op campaign.
Bioshock 2 can go last.

+1 for Vanquish a great fast action game liked it very much and yes its short finished in about 6-7h on normal

 

[BumbleBee]

picked up Transformers War for Cybertron and Vanquish just because it was for 2 for £20 over here. Also picked up Bioshock 2 for £5 lol.
Just started a bit of both but i am going complete Vanquish 1st as its short and i want play Cybertron with my brother via co-op campaign.
Bioshock 2 can go last.

War for Cybertron is awesome.

 

[kurosagi01]

Yeah i like the new design they gave to the transformers,they look more badass and more demonic lol.
I love fact i wasted all my ammo too quick lol when i 1st tried the game.
As for Vanquish i quite like the fast action and the jet boost skidding about is fun lol.

 

[BumbleBee]

I liked Vanquish.

best credit screen!

 

[kurosagi01]

Lol old school music right there.

 

[Wile E]

in my opinion it's not enough.

2 USB ports is good enough. PS2 backwards compatibility isn't very good and it's worse on the 80GB model. if I had a collection of SACD I probably wouldn't use the PS3 to play them and my receiver has a better chipset.

Your receiver's chipset isn't likely to do a better job of decoding than the PS3. You will not be able to hear the difference between bitstream and PCM unless you have a $100k+ setup in a sound proof room. In which case, you aren't likely to be using the PS3 anyway.

2 USB is not good enough for me, and neither is the lack of a card reader. There are very few dedicated SACD players left on the market, and none of them also play games. I do use my ps3 as an SACD player because mine died, and a dedicated one is no better sounding than the ps3, and is more expensive. Most go for around $500 new. My DVD Audio player still lives, so that's a non-issue. (My turntable does need a new stylus tho. Thinking about just trying a new cartridge altogether. Thinking about Grado.) I'm a huge audiophile, but one that's constrained to a budget. The Fat PS3 saves a lot of money by combining multiple things, and combining them very well.

And thus far, my ps2 compatibility has been flawless.

The slim is a downgrade in most ways. It's only purpose was to make the console cheaper, not to make a better console.

 

[BumbleBee]

Your receiver's chipset isn't likely to do a better job of decoding than the PS3. You will not be able to hear the difference between bitstream and PCM unless you have a $100k+ setup in a sound proof room. In which case, you aren't likely to be using the PS3 anyway.

2 USB is not good enough for me, and neither is the lack of a card reader. There are very few dedicated SACD players left on the market, and none of them also play games. I do use my ps3 as an SACD player because mine died, and a dedicated one is no better sounding than the ps3, and is more expensive. Most go for around $500 new. My DVD Audio player still lives, so that's a non-issue. (My turntable does need a new stylus tho. Thinking about just trying a new cartridge altogether. Thinking about Grado.) I'm a huge audiophile, but one that's constrained to a budget. The Fat PS3 saves a lot of money by combining multiple things, and combining them very well.

And thus far, my ps2 compatibility has been flawless.

The slim is a downgrade in most ways. It's only purpose was to make the console cheaper, not to make a better console.

of course not if it's lossless. my Denon uses ABT 2015 so all decoding is done with my receiver anyways.

I have the PS3 that plays sacd's and my Oppo 980 is a much better sacd player in 5.1.
I only tested 5.1 SACD's, but the difference was pretty big. PS3 seemed veiled on the A/B comparison. Oppo and PS3 were connected by HDMI. Oppo seemed to have a crisp and layered sound. I had to volume match.
I am a PS3 fanman! So I was biased going into the comparison.

Denon, NAD, Oppo, Marantz, etc make CD/SACD players that cost thousands of dollars and after doing some reading on DSD vs. PCM it appears a lot of people like DSD output...

 

[Wile E]

Right, but they cost thousands of dollars, and they don't play games, and you have to have a setup that can actually exploit the miniscule differences. I don't actually know anybody irl that has a setup where they can tell the difference between a dedicated SACD and the PS3, let alone my setup.

Not to mention, preferring a sound doesn't mean it's the more accurate sound.

 

[BumbleBee]

I guess your right. who can tell the difference?

instead of acoustic foam and caulking adhesive why not use waffles with canadian maple syrup.

 

[n-ster]

I guess your right. who can tell the difference?

instead of acoustic foam and caulking adhesive why not use waffles with canadian maple syrup.

I'm sorry but I have to ask. Have you tried to compare them yourself at least?

Most audiophiles who have SACDs have SACD players, I'll give you that, but what if new people want to start listening to SACDs (or in this case, replace a broken player)? Wouldn't a PS3, that they may even already have, be the best for an audiophile on a budget? I can understand hearing a slight difference but everyone seems to be praising the PS3's nice quality in SACD playback... It can't be THAT much different from a normal SACD player

 

[Wile E]

I guess your right. who can tell the difference?

instead of acoustic foam and caulking adhesive why not use waffles with canadian maple syrup.

Right, because we both have acoustic foamed, sound proofed listening rooms.

Oh, and because they preferred one over the other, but didn't actually measure for differences vs what's on the disc, it must be the more accurate of the 2, just because they said so.

Sorry, I'll take my own ears word for it or empirical scientific data over somebody else's opinion on the matter. Maybe when I have $25k wrapped up in my setup I'll be a bit more picky about it, but until then, my just over $1000 audio setup is not capable of showing the difference like it is between regular CD and DVD-A/SACD.

 

[BumbleBee]

PS3 Sales Down, but the PS2 Lives On!

Some strange news out of Sony's latest financial earnings release: sales of the PlayStation 3 are down, while sales of the PlayStation 2 are steady and the PSP is making a late-life comeback!

The release covers the three months between April and June this year. In that time, the PS3 sold 1.8 million units (down from 2.4 million last year), the PSP sold 1.8 million (up from 1.2 million) and the old warhorse, the PS2, sold 1.4 million, only slightly down from the 1.6 million this time last year.

What to make of all that? With the PlayStation Vita on the way, the PSP is almost on clearance, making it a great time to grab one for new customers (it's also still going strong in its native Japan). The PS2, despite being over a decade old, is still a handy purchase with a ton of great games! And the PS3, well. That's a strange one. Don't be surprised if a price cut is announced at GamesCom in August, or the Tokyo Game Show in September.

http://kotaku.com/5825485/ps3-sales-down-but-the-ps2-lives-on

 

[kurosagi01]

Anyone played the Breath of fire series?? I personally think this franchise is underrated,the game is awesome.
Breath of Fire 4 is coming out on PSN soon,anyone getting it??