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Upgrading my RIG. First time going into INTEL. Need help.

How about what we talked about OCing and stuff, if i don't plan on Overclocking and stuff, maybe disable the turbo so it stays at 3.9 constantly, because, well, i had bad experiences playing and alt tabbing with a CPU that likes to "HYPER BOOST MEGA TURBO" when playing, random frame drops are not appreciated in my eyes, specially on a new system.

Could i save some money on another motherboard? Or should i keep pushing with a z170 one?
 
Like I said before, if you don't OC, you will save a lot on both CPU and mobo. It's entirely up to you.

I don't OC because I see it as diminishing return in this era. The extra power required to gain so little ain't worth in my eyes also. Some just want to squeeze everything out of something.

It's something you need to decide. We can tell you all kind of crap and have told you all kind of crap. You already have enough info.
 
Yeah, i think i do. Thanks man.
 
I'll be back here when i get the list of available parts from the supplier, so you can guys spot any piece of trash that i'm not aware of!

Thanks for all of your help
 
Greenmousa said:
So, tu sum up a bit:

i5 6600k + Z170 + 8gigs DDR4 @2100 ish? + RX480 or 1060 6GB whatever comes up cheaper.

Oh and i've been using W8.1, i should move up to 10 right?
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W10 its pretty great sir, also the partes listed are great!

also about your case, the one listed in specs its kinda generic one, its there any option to replace it? or you goint to re-use it?
Where are you going to order from ? or buy ?

Regards,
 
peche said:
W10 its pretty great sir, also the partes listed are great!

also about your case, the one listed in specs its kinda generic one, its there any option to replace it? or you goint to re-use it?
Where are you going to order from ? or buy ?

Regards,
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This case may seem generic, but it's just a non popular brand, the truth being, it's a well built case and the fan on the side it's a freaking beast and is very efficient at keeping the temps in check. I live in Santa Fe, a region in Argentina that reaches EASILY 56°C (yup that was last year, we broke our own record!) , that would be 132°F for you guys in the states (Not you Peche, if you're from costa rica you know about this) so, every piece of cooling i can get my hands on i'll take it. That being another reason to decide between the 1060 and the rx480, temps, the 480 runs hot, very hot, and that kind of worries me.
 
Greenmousa said:
So, tu sum up a bit:

i5 6600k + Z170 + 8gigs DDR4 @2100 ish? + RX480 or 1060 6GB whatever comes up cheaper.

Oh and i've been using W8.1, i should move up to 10 right?
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16 GB DDR4 if you can afford it and 2800 MHz or higher speed (should be about same price as 2133). Rest is pretty good. Also go with Win 10 for DX12 - new gpu -> new OS.

That being another reason to decide between the 1060 and the rx480, temps, the 480 runs hot, very hot, and that kind of worries me.
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Not really true, it's a 150-180W TDP card, what's "very hot" for you? My card is over 250W TDP and manages fine within my case. Just take a RX 480 with good cooler like Nitro, if you want to buy it.
 
Greenmousa said:
This case may seem generic, but it's just a non popular brand, the truth being, it's a well built case and the fan on the side it's a freaking beast and is very efficient at keeping the temps in check. I live in Santa Fe, a region in Argentina that reaches EASILY 56°C (yup that was last year, we broke our own record!) , that would be 132°F for you guys in the states (Not you Peche, if you're from costa rica you know about this) so, every piece of cooling i can get my hands on i'll take it. That being another reason to decide between the 1060 and the rx480, temps, the 480 runs hot, very hot, and that kind of worries me.
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great so the case is still with you then,
what about the parts, where are you gping to buy them ?

Regards,
 
peche said:
great so the case is still with you then,
what about the parts, where are you gping to buy them ?

Regards,
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I'll get them probably from a local supplier, that way i save shipping taxes. The downside is, that contrains my options even further. But it is what it is, luckily none of these parts are particularly hard to find, so i should be ok. Once he gives me the list with all the motherboards specs and brands i'll reply here to let you guys see the options and advice me, just in case i'm screwing up!

Thanks!
 
Greenmousa said:
I'll get them probably from a local supplier, that way i save shipping taxes. The downside is, that contrains my options even further. But it is what it is, luckily none of these parts are particularly hard to find, so i should be ok. Once he gives me the list with all the motherboards specs and brands i'll reply here to let you guys see the options and advice me, just in case i'm screwing up!

Thanks!
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great! waiting for that list,

Regards,
 
Just get the 6600K, MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, or Asrock Z170 of your choosing, DDR4 3000 GSkill and either a 1060 or a 480 from Asus, EVGA, PNY, Sapphire, MSI. No need to make this hard. Take a look at reviews on this site Techpowerup or Hardwaresecrets or Anandtech, and lastly read the critical reviews on Newegg and Amazon before you pull the trigger. There are sites like this one https://pcpartpicker.com/ that look for the cheapest price on components, might help you.

Gonna say this again, there isn't any difference in Nvidia vs Radeon for long term performance. I own both a 7850 and a 770 and both work just as well with the current games as they did when I bought them in 2012 and 2013. I guess its all down to the game you want to play or the driver that you use. But saying that an Nvidia card has an expiration date is complete nonsense. If you are overly focused on the ram limit maybe, I have no problems running games on 2GB VRAM. I play GTA 5 mostly High settings 2560x1440. Also not a fan boy of any brands. Any time someone makes an absolute statement they better come prepared with some data to back it up. That is all.
 
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Vario said:
Gonna say this again, there isn't any difference in Nvidia vs Radeon for long term performance. I own both a 7850 and a 770 and both work just as well with the current games as they did when I bought them in 2012 and 2013. I guess its all down to the game you want to play or the driver that you use. But saying that an Nvidia card has an expiration date is complete nonsense. If you are overly focused on the ram limit maybe, I have no problems running games on 2GB VRAM. I play GTA 5 mostly High settings 2560x1440. Also not a fan boy of any brands. Any time someone makes an absolute statement they better come prepared with some data to back it up. That is all.
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Still trash talking huh?
Go and check out some TPU reviews of 7970/R9 280X from 2012 and 2015/2016 then. There is enough evidence, your ignorance doesn't change facts. GCN (even 1st gen) was made for DX12/Vulcan, Kepler isn't. That's why they are scaling that nicely now. On top of that AMD sorted out some driver issues, drivers got simply better over time, so that the GPUs are properly utilized now. Next time you are repeating your nonsense, talk directly to me and don't pretend there were no arguments stated here.
And this was just a example, you could check out nearly every GCN vs. Kepler/Maxwell card from release vs. now and find that the Radeons a) catched up and b) sometimes passed the Nvidia GPUs. No sense in denying facts. If you want to repeat your bullshit, do it however. No sense in talking to someone that ignorant.

Ah I see you own a GTX 770, that's why you can't accept that 7970/R9 280X is easily faster now than your own GPU. Simple egoism on your side without any deeper sense.

"Evidence":

Compare GTX 680/770 vs 7970/R9 280X.

Old from release 2012:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_680/27.html
New:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_380X_Strix/23.html

It's even the GTX 770 that loses against R9 280X. Seems what I said is absolutely right. The same GPU that was slower surpassed Nvidia over time - and also has 1 GB more Vram which is really helpful now.

I could embarrass you even more with evidence on 780 Ti/970/980 vs 290(X)/390(X), but that's enough for now.
 
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Kanan said:
Still trash talking huh?
Go and check out some TPU reviews of 7970/R9 280X from 2012 and 2015/2016 then. There is enough evidence, your ignorance doesn't change facts. GCN (even 1st gen) was made for DX12/Vulcan, Kepler isn't. That's why they are scaling that nicely now. On top of that AMD sorted out some driver issues, drivers got simply better over time, so that the GPUs are properly utilized now. Next time you are repeating your nonsense, talk directly to me and don't pretend there were no arguments stated here.
And this was just a example, you could check out nearly every GCN vs. Kepler/Maxwell card from release vs. now and find that the Radeons a) catched up and b) sometimes passed the Nvidia GPUs. No sense in denying facts. If you want to repeat your bullshit, do it however. No sense in talking to someone that ignorant.

Ah I see you own a GTX 770, that's why you can't accept that 7970/R9 280X is easily faster now than your own GPU. Simple egoism on your side without any deeper sense.

"Evidence":

Compare GTX 680/770 vs 7970/R9 280X.

Old from release 2012:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_680/27.html
New:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_380X_Strix/23.html

It's even the GTX 770 that loses against R9 280X. Seems what I said is absolutely right. The same GPU that was slower surpassed Nvidia over time - and also has 1 GB more Vram which is really helpful now.

I could embarrass you even more with evidence on 780 Ti/970/980 vs 290(X)/390(X), but that's enough for now.
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I think you are insane. Keep going. "Embarrass" me further.
 
Ok! Just got the list from my supplier, these are the available Processors and Motherboards. The price it's in usDollars so you guys get the picture. Yeah it's overpriced i know, but what you gonna do.

Core i5-6600K Quad Core 6MB 3.9GHz USD 322
Core i7-6700 Quad Core 8MB 3.4GHz USD 396
Core i7-6700K Quad Core 8MB 4.2GHz USD 450

ASUS Motherboard (1151) B150M-A USD 113
ASUS Motherboard (1151) B150M-K USD 107
ASUS Motherboard (1151) H110M-D USD 79
ASUS Motherboard (1151) H110M-K USD 77
ASUS Motherboard (1151) H170-PLUS D3 USD 151
ASUS Motherboard (1151) H170M-E USD 111
ASUS Motherboard (1151) H170M-Plus USD 153
ASUS Motherboard (1151) Maximus VIII Hero Alpha USD 383
ASUS Motherboard (1151) Z170 MAXIMUS VIII RANGER USD 286
ASUS Motherboard (1151) Z170 PRO GAMING USD 226
ASUS Motherboard (1151) Z170 PRO GAMING AURA USD 226
GIGABYTE Motherboard GA-B150M-DS3H USD 102
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-B150M-D3H USD 109
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-H110M-H USD 79
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-H170 GAMING 3 USD 167
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-H170M-D3H DDR3 ATX USD 142
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-Z170M-D3H DDR3 ATX USD 174
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-Z170X-GAMING 3 USD 221
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-Z170XP-SLI USD 205
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-Z170XP-SLI DDR4 ATX USD 205

What do you guys think it would be the best bang for my buck? Thanks in advance as usual!
 
GIGABYTE Z170XP-SLI USD 205 + Core i5-6600K : USD 322 = 527 USD [happiness!]
thats the combo i'll choose, great motherboard, if there are any other like MSI or Asrock! those boards are great!

Regards,
 
Greenmousa said:
Ok! Just got the list from my supplier, these are the available Processors and Motherboards. The price it's in usDollars so you guys get the picture. Yeah it's overpriced i know, but what you gonna do.

Core i5-6600K Quad Core 6MB 3.9GHz USD 322
Core i7-6700 Quad Core 8MB 3.4GHz USD 396
Core i7-6700K Quad Core 8MB 4.2GHz USD 450

ASUS Motherboard (1151) B150M-A USD 113
ASUS Motherboard (1151) B150M-K USD 107
ASUS Motherboard (1151) H110M-D USD 79
ASUS Motherboard (1151) H110M-K USD 77
ASUS Motherboard (1151) H170-PLUS D3 USD 151
ASUS Motherboard (1151) H170M-E USD 111
ASUS Motherboard (1151) H170M-Plus USD 153
ASUS Motherboard (1151) Maximus VIII Hero Alpha USD 383
ASUS Motherboard (1151) Z170 MAXIMUS VIII RANGER USD 286
ASUS Motherboard (1151) Z170 PRO GAMING USD 226
ASUS Motherboard (1151) Z170 PRO GAMING AURA USD 226
GIGABYTE Motherboard GA-B150M-DS3H USD 102
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-B150M-D3H USD 109
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-H110M-H USD 79
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-H170 GAMING 3 USD 167
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-H170M-D3H DDR3 ATX USD 142
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-Z170M-D3H DDR3 ATX USD 174
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-Z170X-GAMING 3 USD 221
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-Z170XP-SLI USD 205
GIGABYTE Motherboard (1151) GA-Z170XP-SLI DDR4 ATX USD 205

What do you guys think it would be the best bang for my buck? Thanks in advance as usual!
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6600K Is always gonna be the bang for buck processor compared to 6700(k). and the GA-Z170XP-SLI
 
peche said:
GIGABYTE Z170XP-SLI USD 205 + Core i5-6600K : USD 322 = 527 USD [happiness!]
thats the combo i'll choose, great motherboard, if there are any other like MSI or Asrock! those boards are great!

Regards,
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I agree to that, great board from what i hear (buddy uses it). And i5 6600k Is a beast of a cpu!
 
Yeah, it seems you save at least 100USD which should translate to a fair bit more on your local currency. You'd probably save some on RAM as well. If you do go for Z170 though, that CPU should easily OC to 4.4ghz easily. Sounds a lot but then it's only 10%ish.
 
also, add a aftermarket cooler, intel stoped adding stock cooler since skylake!

Regards,
 
peche said:
also, add a aftermarket cooler, intel stoped adding stock cooler since skylake!

Regards,
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Only K versions don't come with stock cooler. But then that's what OP is getting, so a valid point.
 
I do have my current cooler check my system specs, that is compatible with the 6600k
 
Greenmousa said:
I do have my current cooler check my system specs, that is compatible with the 6600k
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Great but its better if you add a more powerful cooler, like cooler master hyper 212 evo ...even moar when OC, overclocked processors might need better cooling for achieving better freqs,

Regards,
 
Thing is i really don't plan on overclocking that much, as i said before, temperatures here do reach 50°ish Celcius, so adding more heat to the Processor is kind of overkill. I mean i would happily run my current cooler on the 6600k on stock, you really think i should overclock the 6600? I mean, i don't know, if the 6700 no K is faster at stock maybe that's what i should get...I'm just really not sure about jumping into the overclocking wagon again.
 
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