Nvidia Pascal - GT / GTX10xx Owners Club [With Poll

[newconroer]

Hi Liviu,

My Evga Classified default clock is 1721MHz and boost should be1860MHZ but for some reason boost has always been 1987MHz constantly without drop, it doesn't matter if i play Games or stress the GPU with some stability test software it doesn't drop.

Without OC max boost and not drop.
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4 days ago i have C'ed my GPU 2136MHz without touching voltages, but when playing Games or doing some stability test from 2136MHz it drops to 2126MHz.

Yes this is the same thing for myself. My 24/7 type OC goes from 2152core down to 2139 - much like stock 1911 goes down to 1898. Your issue sounds as if it's not dynamically downclocking properly at stock clocks? Maybe it's all related, though it's certainly weird and really does affect performance.

 

[P4-630]

Yes this is the same thing for myself. My 24/7 type OC goes from 2152core down to 2139 - much like stock 1911 goes down to 1898. Your issue sounds as if it's not dynamically downclocking properly at stock clocks? Maybe it's all related, though it's certainly weird and really does affect performance.

And in GPU-Z you probably see the blue graph VREL when it's clocking down, I have that with my GTX1070 as well.
I can OC the core but still getting a small drop when I see VREL in GPU-Z.

 

[FireFox]

Your issue

Well it's something that it's happening almost to everyone, for me it's not an issue and if it's I can live with it, honestly i did OC for fun.

 

[newconroer]

Well it's something that it's happening almost to everyone, for me it's not an issue and if it's I can live with it, honestly i did OC for fun.

I mean the issue you describe, strange as it is (almost looks like a good thing with having a higher clock than supposed to?), is known about yes - bios issue right?

And in GPU-Z you probably see the blue graph VREL when it's clocking down, I have that with my GTX1070 as well.
I can OC the core but still getting a small drop when I see VREL in GPU-Z.

I am looking at GPU-Z now and the Afterburner graphs I can see a mixture of Util/Pwr/VRel at various states.
Maximum TDP has been 123.3%.
Maximum voltage has been 1.0750

After studying it while using 120% performance limit, it seems more stable than I had previously observed. As well as voltage.

Though not all games do this, I think the one I've been testing on is ..possibly poorly programmed, wasteful even - the TDP flops around from 70-90% constantly when nothing new is being drawn on screen or any movement taking place. There's also gaps in the frame latency where 1 fps change can result in 10ms difference.

Meanwhile Heaven/Valley peg the clocks as long as it can until there's a TDP/Voltage issue (usually more TDP related).


So all working as intended, just not ideal with the few games I was testing.

 

[FireFox]

mean the issue you describe, strange as it is (almost looks like a good thing with having a higher clock than supposed to?), is known about yes - bios issue right?

For me it's a good thing because while many are getting the effective boost
(1860MHz ) i am getting some extra MHz.

 

[P4-630]

For me it's a good thing because while many are getting the effective boost
(1860MHz ) i am getting some extra MHz.

Mine in GPU-Z says Boost 1772MHz @stock speed, when I play a game or benchmark the max boost I get is 1987MHz @stock speed.

 

[FireFox]

Mine in GPU-Z says Boost 1772MHz @stock speed, when I play a game or benchmark the max boost I get is 1987MHz @stock speed.

It's your OC'ed?

 

[GreiverBlade]

My Evga Classified default clock is 1721MHz and boost should be1860MHZ but for some reason boost has always been 1987MHz constantly without drop, it doesn't matter if i play Games or stress the GPU with some stability test software it doesn't drop.

Without OC max boost and not drop.
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4 days ago i have C'ed my GPU 2136MHz without touching voltages, but when playing Games or doing some stability test from 2136MHz it drops to 2126MHz.

my 1070 Armor from MSI has a factory OC of 1556mhz and boost over 1979mhz with only the power limit at 108% (when GPU-Z say boost clock 1747 in the main tab )

if i OC i can get up to 2120mhz (drop from 2188 max boost clock) with a mere 1750mhz base clock ) which is the max i could seek (proving unstable sometime), at 1706, which is more stable, i get 2100 max and drop to 2088 stable

Mine in GPU-Z says Boost 1772MHz @stock speed, when I play a game or benchmark the max boost I get is 1987MHz @stock speed.

oh that's fun so, in the end, the factory OC of the gaming X and Armor are the same (well more or less since mine say 1747 as i mentioned previously ) well "are the same" not really ... the baseclock is higher on the Gaming X, but i am surprised that it matter so little in term of end boost.

 

[P4-630]

It's your OC'ed?

The speeds I mentioned are the stock speeds of my card, I get this 1987MHz core speeds without any manual overclocking.

 

[GreiverBlade]

The speeds I mentioned are the stock speeds of my card, I get this 1987MHz core speeds without any manual overclocking.

nah not stock : factory OC which is technically an OC over a FE

 

[FireFox]

I get this 1987MHz core speeds without any manual overclocking.

The same here.

power limit at 108%

It's 108% stock power limit or did you increase it.

 

[newconroer]

Can Precision X push the FE standard BIOS to 130% TDP limit? I was going to download it then found out they took it off the site because the last update broke the internet (or something..)
Are there any other utilities we can use to go past 120%?

 

[GreiverBlade]

The same here.

It's 108% stock power limit or did you increase it.

stock power limit is always 100% normally ... 108% is the max for a Armor series, albeit being based of the same PCB as the Gaming series, it lack some component on it and does not have the 126% (although it change nothing it seems ... )

i am almost glad that my etailer ran out of stock for the Gaming X and Gigabyte G1(luckily ... the later seems to be in every "i have an issue with my GPU" thread) and only had the Armor in stock: best buy of the year!

technically: i always increase the power limit to max to ensure stable boost even if i don't OC my card more than the original frequencies. (well 1556 is enough for now, unless benching )

Can Precision X push the FE standard BIOS to 130% TDP limit? I was going to download it then found out they took it off the site because the last update broke the internet (or something..)
Are there any other utilities we can use to go past 120%?

mmhhh i had to use Afterburner beta (from guru3d) to access voltage and power limit on my card... i don't like EVGA Precision X much nonetheless iirc max power limit is tied to the BIOS and not to the soft you use to OC your card.

although, you want to push a 4+1phase single 8pin FE to 130% TDP? (i still don't get why people get FE cards )

 

[newconroer]

I got the FE card because it was cheap, available and I didn't have to worry about the water block not fitting. And given I can reach 2160sh, I'd say it was a good silicon winner.
However it would be nice to find a way past 120%

 

[GreiverBlade]

I got the FE card because it was cheap, available and I didn't have to worry about the water block not fitting. And given I can reach 2160sh, I'd say it was a good silicon winner.
However it would be nice to find a way past 120%

well not really needed to go above 120% if i can already reach that frequencies with 108%, but i understand it as a way of tinkering and finding if you can go further... that make sense indeed, sorry to not be of any help on that (except on the BIOS mod ... maybe ... but modifying power table in the BIOS is a little above me for now )

if you got it as it was the cheaper, i can understand, for me my Armor was the cheapest custom and also cheaper than a FE (and most manufacturer like EK already have block for it ) i don't really like references model even for watercooling (not that it's really needed for my card at the current moment )

 

[FireFox]

stock power limit is always 100% normally ..

I have asked because nobody knows if MSI has 100%+ power limit

I was going to download it then found out they took it off the site because the last update broke the internet (or something..)

Do you mean you can't download Evga precision X from evga website?

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

Hi guys,

It is possible to OC the memory beyond 10500mhz on my 1080, should I give that a try?

Let me know.

Kind regards.

 

[newconroer]

Do you mean you can't download Evga precision X from evga website?

Ya, the link is broken. It's alright though, I thought the FE had 130% TDP capable, and it was just Afterburner being incorrect at 120%. So nevermind.

well not really needed to go above 120% if i can already reach that frequencies with 108%, but i understand it as a way of tinkering and finding if you can go further... that make sense indeed, sorry to not be of any help on that (except on the BIOS mod ... maybe ... but modifying power table in the BIOS is a little above me for now )

if you got it as it was the cheaper, i can understand, for me my Armor was the cheapest custom and also cheaper than a FE (and most manufacturer like EK already have block for it ) i don't really like references model even for watercooling (not that it's really needed for my card at the current moment )

Ya BIOS mod seems the way, still hunting for one with an increased power limit or no power limit, though you made a good point about power phase.

 

[GreiverBlade]

@P4-630 look what i did find!!!! i know my next buy
http://www.coldzero.eu/msi-gtx-1070...ml#/backplates_02_cooling-choose_cooling_type

 

[P4-630]

@P4-630 look what i did find!!!! i know my next buy
http://www.coldzero.eu/msi-gtx-1070...ml#/backplates_02_cooling-choose_cooling_type

Nice one!!
So you'll be having a card with a backplate afterall...

IMO it just looks better with a backplate and it keeps the PCB straight and it might help a bit with cooling.

 

[newconroer]

I managed to keep the original FE backplate on with the EK waterblock.
The layout still works, it's just that the 1080's have this awful two layered screw system, so when you install the custom block or coolers, it goes back to a single layer of screw mounting. This means the back plate has nowhere to be tightened down and I took some waterproof sealant tape and more or less strapped the backplate into position. Does it help at all I do not know - I'd love some software monitoring for VRMs and rear sided chips, but I suppose Nvidia already knew that people would run the cards without backplates.

 

[GreiverBlade]

and it keeps the PCB straight and it might help a bit with cooling.

the PCB is kept straight by the "anti bending" front plate already ... and that one would be purely aesthetic as it's a plexi one

althout 35€ ~ + ~12€ shipping ... not too expensive from base but shipping is a tad ... high (well ... from Portugal... i paid way less for a lot of various thing i bought across Europe) i will wait after my November holidays to order one

 

[FireFox]

For now as i have said before my card is OC'ed at 2126MHz with power limit at 100%, tonight i will try to push it a little bit more.

 

[GreiverBlade]

For now as i have said before my card is OC'ed at 2126MHz with power limit at 100%, tonight i will try to push it a little bit more.

not 2126mhz, what is your "real" base clock outside of boost i'd like to know, for me max boost clock, even stable, can't be listed as max OC

 

[P4-630]

and that one would be purely aesthetic as it's a plexi one

Oh LOL, didn't read that, I only looked at the picture...
Too bad it's not metal, would make it a little more exlusive.
Expensive than for a piece of plastic though...
But still, looks nice