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[Kursah]

e6600 is good, but many have issues OC-ing it beyond certain points and e6300's have been found to OC as far if not further in some cases. You probably wanted to go with newer components.

 

[nflesher87]

you'll get better prices at www.newegg.com which equals more power for without changing you budget

 

[kenjin]

if you gonna spend 99 bucks on a case and 149 for a CPU cooling, i recommend you get this COmbo deal on newegg instead


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811103014

you get the Zalman 9700 heatsink for free....


but i dont think that deal will last till 30days after you get your paycheck... but if you got the money on hand right now u can pick it up first. and get the other parts later...

 

[Shade125]

I like the ULTRA black Aluminus, and most likely not changing my mind.

THe X2 is .4 Ghz faster than the e6600, and since i have virtually no knowledge of OCing wouldnt it be better just to get the X2? or is it possible to have a stable enough system and generous enough person to guide me through OCing?

 

[Wile E]

If you can afford an E6600, it's the way to go. If you can't afford the E6600, then the AMD is the way to go. Only if you don't plan to overclock.

If you plan to overclock, get a Core2Duo, period. There are tons of knowledgeable people in this forum that can guide you in the right direction for overclocking.

 

[kenjin]

if you not gonna overclock go for the amd instead , coz is cheaper and you wont be able to notice the speed differents ( unless you do benchmarking or placin both PC right next to each other to tell the differents )

 

[Shade125]

I think ill just get the core2 duo then seeing as in the end it can be potentially more powerful.

 

[TXcharger]

o/c is the easiest thing ever... seriously its almost to easy

 

[TXcharger]

wait who the hell is paying for it if ur only 14?????? i wouldnt buy my kid this thats BS, im 17 and i buy all the stuff for my cpu(which is why its budget) but man u got some dumb parents.

WHY ARE YOU SPENDING $150 ON A CPU COOLER???? you could buy water cooling for that price, if your gonna spend the money at least go to newegg and look that is seriously the best computer store on the net, theyve got so much stuff it aint even funny. you can find great air cooling for a fraction of what you wanted to buy it for, and you could knock off alot of money on some of the other products

 

[bruins004]

Dude take a look here ( http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=30822 ).
That will show you the best bang for the buck per price level.

 

[Shade125]

my parents arent paying for it. Im going to work for my step dad over the summer then im gonna pay for it with my money. And I really dont have a clue as how to hook up water cooling.

 

[kenjin]

if you not gonna do oc factory cooling will do it pretty good dont really need to waste the money on cooler. that will give you more budget to get other stuff

 

[TXcharger]

if you not gonna do oc factory cooling will do it pretty good dont really need to waste the money on cooler. that will give you more budget to get other stuff

ya you could use it on fancy stickers so ur case looks cool, ive got 4 stickers on mine so im very cool looking

 

[Darknova]

if you not gonna do oc factory cooling will do it pretty good dont really need to waste the money on cooler. that will give you more budget to get other stuff

Or a better choice would be the Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 64. That TEC cooler is way over the top if you're not going to do extreme overclocking.

 

[Shade125]

Alright, someone told me i should get an 8800 series graphic card because of the direct x10.0 and shader model 4.0 for when the newr gamed flood the market, also someone told me instead of the AMD AM2 to get a ASUS crosshair or striker extreme.

 

[kenjin]

you dont really need striker extreme for what you planning to do with your machine.

Asus p5n32E is good enough for you if you want to go for 680I chipset. cost $209 on newegg ( for Intel CPU with SLI ready )

it really depends on how much you want to spend.

if your budget limit to only $1000 dollar you cant get all the best stuff you can.....

the stuff you mention all put it together will cost you over 1.5k for sure...

 

[Shade125]

so should i get the http://www.xpcgear.com/nx88s320h.html , its the cheapest new model vid card with the directx 10 and shader model 4

 

[FOXCONN1115]

so should i get the http://www.xpcgear.com/nx88s320h.html , its the cheapest new model vid card with the directx 10 and shader model 4

dude go to newegg.com and look at the EVGA 8800GTS 320MB... it's only $279, and a $20 mail in rebate. I have the card.. and love it.

 

[Shade125]

e6600 is good, but many have issues OC-ing it beyond certain points and e6300's have been found to OC as far if not further in some cases. You probably wanted to go with newer components.

THen would I be saving money getting the e6300 and overclocking it and not an e6600 if it can OC just as well?

 

[theonetruewill]

THe X2 is .4 Ghz faster than the e6600, and since i have virtually no knowledge of OCing wouldnt it be better just to get the X2? or is it possible to have a stable enough system and generous enough person to guide me through OCing?

The fact that the X2 has a higher clock speed than the E6600 can only be used as a comparison against clock for clock performance.
For example my 4600X2 @ 2.79 will be beaten in almost everything(if not everything) by the E6600 @2.4.
Mine may have a higher clock speed, but it has a worse and more primitive architecture than the Core 2 chip. So it has to run at a higher speed to reach the same performance levels of the Core 2 chip. Maybe 3.2-3.3 to fully beat the E6600. (I know this is simplified)

Clock for clock Core 2's are far better. However at stock speeds they aren't "too" different. However personally I owuld go with a Core 2 chip if you have the money. I personally feel that AMD are the budget choice at the moment. Hence why I got my 4600X2.

In most games you probably won't notice the difference as you're getting quite a high-end chip- however in normal use you will probably notice an overall performance gain with the E6600 as well as with benchmarks.

Another advantage of the Core 2 duo design is it's unified Level 2 cache.
For example
4800X2 has 2x1MB Level 2 cache. That means one 1MB L2 cache for each of the two cores. That means in singlee threaded applications that only use one core(most eg Word, Photoshop, superpi, browsers, most games etc) the core that is being used can only use 1MB of the total cache.

However with the Core 2 design, and E6600 not only has a 4MB cache! It is also unified. The better architecure of the Core 2 designs enables 1 of the core's to fully utilize all 4MB of L2 cache if needed in a single threaded application. Hence one of (just one reason!) the reasons as to why the Core 2's are faster in single threaded applications (the ones that only use one of the cores)

For overclocking try Kursah's guide, it's really informative and I higly recommend it. As people have said, if you get confused, just ask.

Hope that helped

 

[Shade125]

So since the cache on the e6600 is twice as large as the e6300 once they oveclock the e6600 will be better becaus of the 4m cache? or overall would that not really matter in gaming performance on games such as WoW, Guild Wars, Battlefield 2142, Halo and the like?

 

[FOXCONN1115]

what kinda of budget are you working with? max amount?

 

[Shade125]

no goin over 2k cuz i really dont want to work that long

right now i updated the parts on the first post and i got it to 1091.81 and all of it is good

 

[Wile E]

If you're going to overclock, get the E6320 or E6420. They both have the 4MB cache.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115015

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115016

 

[Shade125]

do they overclock better?