Maps, science, data & statistics tracking of COVID-19

[HTC]

So to contribute to the thread: Still no major bans in sweden, and in my town the old folks who are told to stay home are shopping and doing lunches with each others as normal. No talk of lockdown, but we're very discouraged to travel. It's a pretty interesting difference: Other nations have cops fining people for breaking curfew, Sweden basically asks their citizens to be sensible for the sake of others. Have said it before, but time will tell which way was the way to go. There is talk about how the extreme quarantine of other nations might make them vulnurable to a second or third wave of the virus. If a nation manage to eliminate it, what happens in the next wave? Will the shut down the nation again? In any case it's an interesting - and bleak - situation.

Should there be a 2nd wave, if they lockdown Immediately without waiting, unlike what pretty much ALL countries did in "the 1st wave", they should have it contained within 3 to 4 weeks so the damage SHOULD be much smaller.

The problem with the "wait and see approach before deciding" is that, by the time they do decide, the damage is already done and they're all racing behind attempting to catch up but, as we all know, this bloody virus works with exponential progression so it will take A LOT LONGER to catch up: with this approach, the bigger "the wait" the longer the period to catch up.

Still, once this 1st wave is over, people should resume "normalcy" (if that ever happens again after COVID-19) BUT they should STILL adopt precautionary measures for @ least 6 months, in an attempt to minimize any and all subsequent waves of this virus, should they happen: that way, the spread should be much less pronounced and thus much easier to tackle.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Louisiana's numbers for April 3, 2020:

10,297 cases (9,150 yesterday)
370 deaths (310 yesterday) ~20% increase (19.3 to be precise)
1,707 hospitalized (1,639 yesterday)
535 on ventilators (507 yesterday)
54,645 tests have been conducted (51,086 yesterday)

Breaking these down for the 5 parishes that comprise the New Orleans Metro Area.

6,667 cases (3,476 actually in New Orleans) -yesterday was 4,935, with 3,148 of those in New Orleans proper
254 Deaths (148 actually in New Orleans) -yesterday was 215, with 125 of those in New Orleans proper

Louisiana Coronavirus | La Dept. of Health

The Louisiana Department of Health protects and promotes health and ensures access to medical, preventive and rehabilitative services for all citizens of the State of Louisiana.

ldh.la.gov

 

[Frick]

Should there be a 2nd wave, if they lockdown Immediately without waiting, unlike what pretty much ALL countries did in "the 1st wave", they should have it contained within 3 to 4 weeks so the damage SHOULD be much smaller.

The problem with the "wait and see approach before deciding" is that, by the time they do decide, the damage is already done and they're all racing behind attempting to catch up but, as we all know, this bloody virus works with exponential progression so it will take A LOT LONGER to catch up: with this approach, the bigger "the wait" the longer the period to catch up.

Still, once this 1st wave is over, people should resume "normalcy" (if that ever happens again after COVID-19) BUT they should STILL adopt precautionary measures for @ least 6 months, in an attempt to minimize any and all subsequent waves of this virus, should they happen: that way, the spread should be much less pronounced and thus much easier to tackle.

The problem is the economy there. Even if it's "just" a month the economic repercussions will be absolutely gigantic, and that in turn will directly affect peoples health and lives. Add the cost of this pandemic and it's time to loot the churches.

 

[HTC]

The problem is the economy there. Even if it's "just" a month the economic repercussions will be absolutely gigantic, and that in turn will directly affect peoples health and lives. Add the cost of this pandemic and it's time to loot the churches.

True but people will be "behaving" much better in the 2nd wave because they have the experience of the 1st wave so they know the cost of NOT following the rules: the experience "gained" with the 1st wave will shorten the length of the 2nd and, though the cost will still be HUGE, it will be far FAR less than that of the 1st wave.

 

[Frick]

What bugs me is that some people seem to he oblivious about the virus, as they chitchat in the supermarket and stand/walk really close to you, even if you try to avoid them and then they look offended when you step away

Last friday I passed the bus hub (in metropolitan Piteå) by foot and a coughing person stepped of a long distance bus and ran and hugged a coughing elderly relative. ICA (grocery store for you non swedes) was filled with older folk jostling for the pasta (or whatever they're into these days) joking to one another about daring to go outside. It's pretty surreal when compared to the shots of abandoned *everything* elsewhere.

Also "funny" is that some older people have those one time gloves on them while shopping, and then they lick their fingers as they normally would whilst folding through their wallets for the right card or the cash.

The upside is that for the first time in my life I have seen seemingly properly cleaned keypads on the cardreaders. The grime around the buttons have always annoyed me, for as long as I can remember.

True but people will be "behaving" much better in the 2nd wave because they have the experience of the 1st wave so they know the cost of NOT following the rules: the experience "gained" with the 1st wave will shorten the length of the 2nd and, though the cost will still be HUGE, it will be far FAR less than that of the 1st wave.

Maybe. People suck at learning though.

 

[R0H1T]

Still, once this 1st wave is over, people should resume "normalcy" (if that ever happens again after COVID-19) BUT they should STILL adopt precautionary measures for @ least 6 months, in an attempt to minimize any and all subsequent waves of this virus, should they happen: that way, the spread should be much less pronounced and thus much easier to tackle.

No one really knows how long the "waves" will last, with "flattening the curve" the impact may lessen though the duration will be longer or much much longer!

Let's just say it out loud ~ people are f***in stupid & selfish especially the ones who're either infected or likely to get infected but not necessarily die, which means virtually anyone who can transmit the disease! Total lock-down, on & off is IMO the only way we'll minimize the fatalities & depending on the region we may loosen some of the restrictions. Though without a cure or vaccine I see this being the new normal for at least 6-12 months!

 

[HTC]

Maybe. People suck at learning though.

I guarantee you they WILL learn from the 1st wave: the cost will be far too big not to.

No one really knows how long the "waves" will last, with flattening the curve the impact may lessen though the duration will be longer or much much longer!

Let's just say it out loud ~ people are f***in stupid & selfish especially the ones who're either infected or likely to get infected but not necessarily die, which means virtually anyone who can transmit the disease! Total lock-down, on & off is IMO the only way we'll minimize the fatalities & depending on the region we may loosen some of the restrictions. Though without a cure or vaccine I see this being the new normal for at least 6-12 months!

Agreed: if done RIGHT AWAY: the damage MAY be small, by comparison.

Forgot to mention in my Portugal's update post: a pregnant lady found out she was infected (as well as her husband) 2 days before giving birth: the baby's 1st test came back negative.

 

[heky]

Forgot to mention in my Portugal's update post: a pregnant lady found out she was infected (as well as her husband) 2 days before giving birth: the baby's 1st test came back negative.

Of course, because most viruses can not get through the barrier in the placenta.(or something like that, have seen a documentary about human evolution and it was explained there.)

Also, i do not want to make this pandemic irrelevant, but i think it is blown way out if proportion, intentionally! If you look at the mortality rate and the people it affects it looks harmless compared to even something like the common seasonal flu. Just for comparison, the common flu killed over 1.000.000 people this year globally, Covid19 killed 60.000. Let that number sink in. And now think about what it did to the global economy.

 

[rtwjunkie]

the common flu killed over 1.000.000 people this year globally, Covid19 killed 60.000. Let that number sink in. And now think about what it did to the global economy.

Now come back at the end of a year's time and we'll discuss comparisons of flu deaths versus COVID-19 deaths.

Also, many more people are hospitalized for a longer period with COVID-19, depriving hospitals of the ability to deal with all the other ailments and emergencies that normally happen. Here in the U.S., our health system operates at about 70-80%, leading to a just-in-time approach. It doesn't take much for hospitals to reach their limit for treatment.

 

[Rahnak]

Also, i do not want to make this pandemic irrelevant, but i think it is blown way out if proportion, intentionally! If you look at the mortality rate and the people it affects it looks harmless compared to even something like the common seasonal flu. Just for comparison, the common flu killed over 1.000.000 people this year globally, Covid19 killed 60.000. Let that number sink in. And now think about what it did to the global economy.

No, you just haven't been paying enough attention. If you let this run unchecked, you'd be looking at a lot more than 1M deaths (the US alone projected between 1.5 and 2.2M) not to the mention the total collapse of hospitals everywhere.

 

[the54thvoid]

Of course, because most viruses can not get through the barrier in the placenta.(or something like that, have seen a documentary about human evolution and it was explained there.)

Also, i do not want to make this pandemic irrelevant, but i think it is blown way out if proportion, intentionally! If you look at the mortality rate and the people it affects it looks harmless compared to even something like the common seasonal flu. Just for comparison, the common flu killed over 1.000.000 people this year globally, Covid19 killed 60.000. Let that number sink in. And now think about what it did to the global economy.

This is from the WHO stats:

The World Health Organization estimates that worldwide, annual influenza epidemics result in about 3-5 million cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 deaths

Influenza: Practice Essentials, Background, Pathophysiology

Influenza, one of the most common infectious diseases, is a highly contagious airborne disease that occurs in seasonal epidemics and manifests as an acute febrile illness with variable degrees of systemic symptoms, ranging from mild fatigue to respiratory failure and death. Influenza causes...

www.medscape.com

Where's your million figure from?

 

[AsRock]

This is from the WHO stats:

Influenza: Practice Essentials, Background, Pathophysiology

Influenza, one of the most common infectious diseases, is a highly contagious airborne disease that occurs in seasonal epidemics and manifests as an acute febrile illness with variable degrees of systemic symptoms, ranging from mild fatigue to respiratory failure and death. Influenza causes...

www.medscape.com

Where's your million figure from?

HAHA, you trust the who lmao.

 

[moproblems99]

Florida was at about 9600 cases this morning. Will be well into 10k tomorrow.

Should there be a 2nd wave, if they lockdown Immediately without waiting, unlike what pretty much ALL countries did in "the 1st wave", they should have it contained within 3 to 4 weeks so the damage SHOULD be much smaller.

Should there be a second wave, or third, people better buckle up and pray.

HAHA, you trust the who lmao.

No offense but it is better than some npc off TPU.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Now this is seriously worrying...

Coronavirus may spread through normal breathing: US scientists

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Hence the masks. CDC was right, WHO was wrong.

 

[Xzibit]

Now this is seriously worrying...

Coronavirus may spread through normal breathing: US scientists

As long as you don't mist up the place.

This triggered a debate even as critics said the findings were overblown because the team behind the study used a medical device called a nebulizer to deliberately create a viral mist and argued this would not occur naturally.

I find the Chinese one more interesting

The Chinese paper on the other hand raised concerns that personal protective gear used by health care workers could itself be a source of airborne virus.
The team studied hospitals in Wuhan and found that there were two major areas where the virus was aerosolized: the bathrooms of patients, and rooms where medical staff removed their protective gear.

 

[Outback Bronze]

Thought it maybe worth while placing this here:

Anti-parasitic drug kills COVID-19 in lab

An anti-parasitic drug available throughout the world has been found to kill COVID-19 in the lab within 48 hours.

www.news.com.au

 

[moproblems99]

Isn't Ivermectin an anti-parasitic?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Thought it maybe worth while placing this here:

Anti-parasitic drug kills COVID-19 in lab

An anti-parasitic drug available throughout the world has been found to kill COVID-19 in the lab within 48 hours.

www.news.com.au

Read up on this already. Seems to have great potential without any side effects. Needs more study though. However, because it's already FDA approved, it could get a fast track for use against COVID19 should testing continue to show positive results in combating the virus.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

A Monash University-led study has shown a single dose of the drug Ivermectin could stop the SARS-CoV-2 virus growing in cell culture.

It's way too early to get excited. Frankly, I'm surprised they'd even publish something so early in testing.

 

[Caring1]

It's way too early to get excited. Frankly, I'm surprised they'd even publish something so early in testing.

Scientific E-peen.

"The team studied hospitals in Wuhan and found that there were two major areas where the virus was aerosolized: the bathrooms of patients, and rooms where medical staff removed their protective gear. "

Disinfectant showers before disrobing would negate that.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It's way too early to get excited. Frankly, I'm surprised they'd even publish something so early in testing.

Why? Positive results are positive results.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Because odds are extremely in favor of it being ineffectual in living, breathing bodies. I'm not going to go into details because it's off topic.

 

[lexluthermiester]

A living body is a very, very different environment from a cell culture.

True, but we're talking about a known and already approved medication for other virus infections.

I'm not going to go into details because it's off topic.

Good point..

 

[FordGT90Concept]

True, but we're talking about a known and already approved medication for other virus infections.

Parasites aren't viruses. Parasites are organisms living inside of bigger organisms. Viruses are "extremely complex molecules."