AMD Said to be Releasing no Less Than Four New Ryzen 5000-Series Chips in March

[unheck]

no ryzen 3?

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

As a consumer I don't agree with that perspective. For me it does matter what I could have 6-12 months ago. An excuse to upgrade my 2700X.

That's pretty pointless.

6-12 months ago was exactly that. A past. You should not make purchasing decisions based on past availability and prices.

 

[Bomby569]

So only the 5800 has the 3D chiplet technology?

 

[Sithaer]

Well thats nice but I already made the switch to Alder lake ~2 weeks ago and already sold my AMD parts.

My B350 mobo did not support Zen 3 anyway and the latest Bios for it was relased in 2021 August and nothing since.

I'm more than satisfied with my 12100F so no regrets, especially after I managed to sell my old stuff in less than a day so the overall cost wasn't that much.

 

[Jism]

Instead of lowering prices in every model, they create new models at lower prices, while keeping the prices of the original models higher than where the competition is forcing them.

Yes, AMD is a business, and it invested huge in R&D in terms of CPU development. They cant make profit?

I mean you buy a AM4+ board now and your good for the next 3 to 6 years at least depending on what you want (5800X 3D) or even a 5950X.

Times are quite better compared to 10 years ago.

 

[TheLostSwede]

So only the 5800 has the 3D chiplet technology?

It's all AMD has announced so far.

 

[HisDivineOrder]

That's pretty pointless.

6-12 months ago was exactly that. A past. You should not make purchasing decisions based on past availability and prices.

Exactly. And for anyone running an Intel platform or first gen Ryzen, it's probably best to go Alder Lake. It is a platform that has an upgrade path to a future CPU gen. AMD will have to drop prices a lot more to make buying into a dead end platform with years old motherboards make sense.

 

[Valantar]

If this is true: about damn time. AMD have been sitting still for far too long at this point. When your reaction, consisting of new SKUs from existing production, arrives five months after the competition one-ups you, then you're reacting too slowly. Even if it's taken Intel a while to diversify their ADL lineup, this is still too slow - ideally, AMD should have preempted the launch of low-end ADL.

As for the SKUs, depending on clock speeds and caches, this looks excellent. 6 cores at $130? Yes please. That 5500 looks like a fantastic value play, especially with some PBO tuning and an affordable B550 motherboard. (Wait, I can't remember, is PBO limited to X SKUs?) This has me a lot more excited than the 5800X3D, that's for sure.

 

[Bomby569]

If this is true: about damn time. AMD have been sitting still for far too long at this point. When your reaction, consisting of new SKUs from existing production, arrives five months after the competition one-ups you, then you're reacting too slowly. Even if it's taken Intel a while to diversify their ADL lineup, this is still too slow - ideally, AMD should have preempted the launch of low-end ADL.

As for the SKUs, depending on clock speeds and caches, this looks excellent. 6 cores at $130? Yes please. That 5500 looks like a fantastic value play, especially with some PBO tuning and an affordable B550 motherboard. (Wait, I can't remember, is PBO limited to X SKUs?) This has me a lot more excited than the 5800X3D, that's for sure.

Like mentioned before it's dumb to invest in a dead platform. Only use i see for this is people that already have systems, AM4 mobos, and are looking to upgrade the CPU to get the best out of it.

 

[MarsM4N]

Kind of late at this point.

Late for what? These new chips are cheaper than Intel's ones (and even than AMD's current roundup), and since they are on DDR4 platforms (and not expensive DDR5) the whole system will be even cheaper.

Intel most likely will still hold the performance crown, but in gaming scenarios the advantage will be neglectable.

 

[TheLostSwede]

with years old motherboards make sense.

One question, what is X570 missing that matters?

 

[Bomby569]

Late for what? These new chips are cheaper than Intel's ones (and even than AMD's current roundup), and since they are on DDR4 platforms (and not expensive DDR5) the whole system will be even cheaper.

Intel most likely will still hold the performance crown, but in gaming scenarios the advantage will be neglectable.

There is a flaw in the OP, you can already find the new AL cheaper then the original price. Even in my country, the land of taxes.

 

[TheLostSwede]

There is a flaw in the OP, you can already find the new AL cheaper then the original price. Even in my country, the land of taxes.

No flaw, I compared to Intel's MSRP, which is the only thing I can base things on, especially as this is just a rumour posted by someone on Twitter.
You need to learn to chose your wording and you can't expect us to go look at pricing in every country in the world when we're posting something that might not even end up being true.
It's an indication of a potential price for a potential product, so how can it be flawed when everything is based on guesstimates?

 

[Bomby569]

No flaw, I compared to Intel's MSRP, which is the only thing I can base things on, especially as this is just a rumour posted by someone on Twitter.
You need to learn to chose your wording and you can't expect us to go look at pricing in every country in the world when we're posting something that might not even end up being true.
It's an indication of a potential price for a potential product, so how can it be flawed when everything is based on guesstimates?

Man don't take this as personal or anything like that. But you got to admit it's a not a good mearure of comparision (i can't find the right words in English), because it leads exactly to answers like the ones i quoted. It won't actually be cheaper then the equivalent AL at those prices. But i understand it's easier to quote MSRP.

I wasn't talking about sales either, they are just cheaper then MSRP.

 

[Keullo-e]

I hope that the 5700X would be priced at ~300EUR. I'm not getting a third six-core Ryzen (I had a R5 2600 & B450 before) but a 8C/16T Zen3 would last for years.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Man don't take this as personal or anything like that. But you got to admit it's a not a good mearure of comparision (i can't find the right words in English), because it leads exactly to answers like the ones i quoted. It won't actually be cheaper then the equivalent AL at those prices. But i understand it's easier to quote MSRP.

I wasn't talking about sales either, they are just cheaper then MSRP.

How else do you want me to take it when you say the OP is flawed, when I'm the one who wrote it?
Of course it's a good measure of comparison, what else do you expect me to use? I have no idea what these CPUs from AMD will cost, just hints by some dude on Twitter.
So should I use US, EU or Japanese prices to compare with? Maybe Icelandic prices?
Seriously dude, try to live on the same planet as the rest of us instead of coming up with redicicolous accusations.

And it's cheaper than.

 

[Cutechri]

The Ryzen 5's better be priced well if they want to have any chance against the 12400F.

 

[docnorth]

Price and usage will make people go one way or the other. Do not forget that CPU-to-CPU comparison only is not appropriate because with Alder Lake, people need to buy entirely new platform and spend more, whereas with AMD, those who are on AM4 already simply need to buy one single componet - CPU.

That’s usually true if someone buys a significantly better CPU, mostly from the existing (and relatively expensive) CPUs... Maybe 5700x will be tempting for a real upgrade.

 

[Tek-Check]

That’s usually true if someone buys a significantly better CPU, mostly from the existing (and relatively expensive) CPUs... Maybe 5700x will be tempting for a real upgrade.

It really depends on what owners have at home and their plans.

People on high-end Zen 3 systems will skip this upgrade. Most of them will also pass on Zen 4, as 5900X and 5950X systems are good enough until Zen 5, at least. I will certainly do that.

People on mid-range Zen 3 and older gen CPUs might want the last upgrade on AM4, to extend life of their systems for a few years. But some of those owners might want to save money, skip this offfer and move onto AM5.

Also, this offer is not only for individual users. I am sure that small business with several older systems in their offices will find this discount offer and new CPUs on AM4 very attractive, indeed.

 

[Cutechri]

People on high-end Zen 3 systems will skip this upgrade. Most of them will also pass on Zen 4

I'll pass everything until Nova Lake arrives. I want a monumental performance boost.

 

[ixi]

It's good to see AMD competing on the mid-low range again, even though their very low end part, at 6 cores/6 threads, makes me skeptical as to how well it will perform compared to the 12100. I'd rather have a 4C/8T CPU than a 6C/6T one.

Chosing virtual cores instead of real one, damn, why?

 

[Keullo-e]

Chosing virtual cores instead of real one, damn, why?

Yeah... I made that mistake years ago when I got a 7700K instead of getting a new board and a 8600K.

 

[trieste15]

Capitalism is based on milking premise, no? As companies are not charities, they would try to maximize profits.

Intel is allowed to milk and abuse its near-monopoly.

AMD simply isn't allowed to, we want AMD to lose so that Intel regains its monopoly.


/s

 

[Valantar]

It's good to see AMD competing on the mid-low range again, even though their very low end part, at 6 cores/6 threads, makes me skeptical as to how well it will perform compared to the 12100. I'd rather have a 4C/8T CPU than a 6C/6T one.

Have to disagree there. Intel's SMT adds at best 25% performance per virtual thread (AMD's SMT is more efficient, closer to 40% last I saw). Given that six full performance cores is a decent enough amount, the Windows scheduler should have no problem shuffling threads around on less utilized cores to match or exceed even a fast 4c8t Intel (assuming clock speeds are competitive relative to the IPC difference, obviously).

Like mentioned before it's dumb to invest in a dead platform. Only use i see for this is people that already have systems, AM4 mobos, and are looking to upgrade the CPU to get the best out of it.

So ... do you argue against buying every second (or just every, depending on the year) Intel platform as well? I agree that waiting for AM5 would be smarter at this point, but that's not going to be affordable for quite some time, and LGA1700 has at best one more generation in it. So, if you're on a budget and this delivers the performance, I see no issues with that.

But you got to admit it's a not a good mearure of comparision (i can't find the right words in English), because it leads exactly to answers like the ones i quoted. It won't actually be cheaper then the equivalent AL at those prices. But i understand it's easier to quote MSRP.

One major flaw with your reasoning here: ADL launched very recently (less than two months ago), and is selling below MSRP outside of sales. These chips are supposedly launching this month, yet you seem to be assuming that they will adhere strictly to MSRP. That doesn't seem logical to me. If prices are dropping below MSRP and these models are meant to compete, isn't it reasonable that they also drop below MSRP quite quickly?

 

[Assimilator]

I love how everyone is arguing about these chips when the only "evidence" of their existence is one random Twitterati post.